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[LexVegas]

1. Most will come around, just like Bernie will. nt

[HooptieWagon]

12. Just keep believing that.

and we'll keep laughing at your delusion.

[LexVegas]

14. Bernie will campaign his ass off for HRC. Don't know why you think he won't.

[HooptieWagon]

23. What makes you think Sanders will have an influence?

It just goes to show how clueless you are about Sanders supporters.

[Dr Hobbitstein]

49. So... Bernie has no influence over his own supporters? nt

[HooptieWagon]

77. No. It's not a personality cult like Clinton.

The majority of Sanders supporters are following ideas, not a person.

[Babel_17]

56. The Green party members will vote for Jill Stein

I canvassed with one of them who was willing to work for Sanders in the primary, and vote for him in the general. That kind of Independent voter, new voter, Green party voter, and other voters, who showed up for Sanders unique message won't be led around to Clinton if Sanders feels obligated to play the part of the pied piper.

What their numbers are is the question. The youngest of these new voters are especially difficult for me to venture a guess on. Their conventional wisdom doesn't derive from sources I'm used to, but I don't see how the Clinton campaign can get a handle on influencing the communications they see and hear. Sanders and Warren aren't that far apart in age but Sanders has been especially amazing at getting the young voters to come around to voting, and getting involved.

Warren resonates extremely well with older progressives but without Sanders as the candidate I think we've lost the youngest ones. To get an idea of their numbers I guess we need to refer to the open primaries.

[Smarmie Doofus]

72. So will a lot of life-long DEMs.

( And contribute$$ and make calls, etc.)

Trust me.

[HooptieWagon]

82. Stein will get a lot of BoBs in addition to Greens.

I'm sure she will eclipse the previous Green vote high of 2.5% set by Nader...by a lot.

[LoverOfLiberty]

105. You mean one Sanders supporter

certainly you don't speak for all of them. Nor are the ones on DU representative of the nation as a whole.

What would be your endgame? For Republicans to prevail in November?

[Kelvin Mace]

73. He may very well do that

However that has zero effect on how I vote. Plus many here have told me they "don't need" my vote, so good luck and do let me know how it turns out.

[Exilednight]

85. why would he? he has nothing to gain by doing so.

[99Forever]

19. I recommend you hold your...

...breath waiting for that to happen.

[LexVegas]

21. ...

[99Forever]

24. Cry me a river.

Don't. Care.

[pinebox]

37. Hahahah! You keep thinking that!

[shireen]

88. i agree

and I'm a Bernie supporter. I'm deeply disappointed that he's unlikely to be the nominee. But I'll be voting against Trump this November,.

A lot of B ernie people are feeling bitter right now. They will come around as they watch The Donald campaign by insults. I cannot believe that he's the Republican nominee. That he got this far is a very sad statement about our country.

[Skwmom]

126. I think you're about to find out who really believes in unicorns and it isn't the Bernie supporters.

[Scootaloo]

127. That all depends on Hillary. It's her job to earn votes

[Trust Buster]

2. We're in the nascent stages of the reunification process. This should be expected at this stage IMO.

[LaydeeBug]

3. LOL. Give it a week. nt

[LaydeeBug]

27. Since she just became the presumptive nominee last night

I'd just have to remind you that we are on the same schedule.

After that, your vague pouting about her fitness is a moot point, since MILLIONS of people disagreed with you. After all, we *won*.

[Dr Hobbitstein]

51. If by rigged, you mean 3,000,000+ more votes, then sure.

Most people call that more votes, though.

[TeacherB87]

63. And you can keep making up your own math

But it's still wrong. Get a grip.

[Dr Hobbitstein]

78. Facts are hard, eh?

It's OK. I had trouble with math once, too.

[Dr Hobbitstein]

86. I've read it. She did the same as her predecessors.

Nothing illegal, even if it was a bad idea.

But, hey...

[Dr Hobbitstein]

95. Get back to your bridge, there's some billy goats afoot.

[pinebox]

103. Sigh...she did NOT do the same as her predecessors

Watch. Andrea Mitchell breaks it down. It is NOT the same.

[pangaia]

60. She is unfit for the office.

[apcalc]

65. She is the most fit out of the original

16 R's and 5 D's...hands down.

[pangaia]

69. Well, we will just have to disagree on that point.

[BobbyDrake]

4. Vocal minority is vocal, also still a minority. nt

[BobbyDrake]

11. Not sure you understand majorities. nt

[BobbyDrake]

17. Too bad for you it also applies to votes, states, and pledged delegates.

This was fun, but you're going on the ignore list now.

[calguy]

33. Hillary will trounce Trump by a huge margin

She really won't need the votes of Bernie DieHards. Just stay in your room and pout until November if that's what you want to do. The rest of America is moving on.

[pinebox]

41. No actually she won't, she will lose

Us Bernie supporters have been saying this a long time. Hillary is not well liked at all and has no indy support.
She now is facing a RW populist who the establishment hates but people on that side love. You know who else they all can't stand, Hillary. Double motivation; the absolute hate of someone and an outsider as their candidate? Sorry, Hillary won't beat Trump.

[apcalc]

83. She is NOT under investigation.

[HooptieWagon]

98. What has the FBI been doing? Delivering pizza?

They don't conduct 'security reviews', that's the OIG which just released their report trashing Clinton. FBI conducts criminal investigations. They don't go handing out immunity except as a means of getting lower level suspects to testify against higher-ups.

[pinebox]

122. Um yes she is under an investigation

What else does the FBI do? They handle CRIMINAL ACTIVITY and ONLY that.

[Jester Messiah]

6. Gee, wonder why that might be. n/t

[jzodda]

7. Happens every cycle...They will come around

Similar numbers from 2008 from HRC supporters. In the end most voted for Obama and that was with a FAR FAR FAR less contentious Republican opponent. With trump? I would imagine most will change their minds by November and vote for HRC....

[charlyvi]

15. As is Hillary Clinton eom

[Lizzie Poppet]

18. Not for a great many progressives, she isn't.

A lot of us don't give a damn about the party label. We don't give a damn about identity politics. Hillary's downsides simply outweigh her positives for us, and it's not close.

[coyote]

20. LOL!

I like you. You are funny.

[Hiraeth]

74. right? I snorted coffee myself.

[larkrake]

79. now u r stretching truth.

[jzodda]

40. We have

June, July, August, September, October

Around 150 days

The entire time will be spent with Trump and his outrageous bullshit. We'll see how many people come out in Nov just to vote against Trump.

This election will become a referendum on Trump. He's so out there its almost certain.

[Lizzie Poppet]

68. Prediction: Trump will dial it back.

Trump can position himself to the left of Hillary on a number of issues (free trade, for one) that won't necessarily alienate his slack-jawed base. He can modify his rhetoric to seem, at least to the more gullible portions of the electorate, more "presidential." Underestimating his media savvy would be a huge, huge mistake.

[jzodda]

97. I doubt it

Trump has shown, especially the past week or so, that he is not capable of controlling himself. I don't think that he can.

[Robbins]

16. No it won't

17% of clinton supporters voted for mccain.Clinton and obama were way too similar to each other.CLinton is enemy of what bernie and his supporters are for.

I forget when in 2008 obamas personly attacked clinton supporters.oh wait they didn't.

This isn't normal election.many claimed trump would never win.he won GOP nomination and he is doing better in polls against
Clinton.

why do clinton supporters care what us bernie supporters do since you all made it clear what you think of us.and many will be gone from Du soon enough.

[jzodda]

46. Well don't speak for me

I never said I disliked Bernie or his supporters.

I think Trump will drive left of center turnout with out HRC doing anything.

[Robbins]

50. well

you must be in minority of clinton supporters then.

having 2 candiates whose main appeal is against the other is going to cause low turnout.even in 2012 many were still voting for obama and not against romney.

[apcalc]

89. pretty cool to have enemies who agree with you 93% of the time, eh?

[pinebox]

44. No it isn't happening

Sorry.
Obama and Hillary were much closer in ideology than Hillary & Bernie and many Bernie supporters are sick of the whole system. Last night what the AP did sealed the deal. There is no way in hell millions are coming around. We're fed up and this just fueled everything even more.

[TheCowsCameHome]

9. She will do just fine on her own

as long as the opposition is Trump.

Anyone else, all bets are off.

Good luck.

[TheCowsCameHome]

45. We've (Sanders supporters) have been told we aren't needed.

Let's see how well that goes in November.

(She had better pray that her opposition is Trump)

[NorthCarolina]

28. She's turning to courting the anti-Trump Republicans now instead.

She'll be far more comfortable, and believable, courting those voters than she ever would trying to appeal to Bernie voters.

[NorthCarolina]

34. One thing about Hillary Clinton and polling is that her numbers NEVER

go up, only down. That was confirmed by Lawrence O'Donnell on the teeVee.

[apcalc]

61. And of course he knows everything.

[NorthCarolina]

67. Second only to you I guess. -nt-

[Robbins]

59. yep

the clintons aren't doing anything to reach out to bernie supporters.

The problem with the cornation of clinton by democratic party leaders is virtully noone has credabilty anymore to reach out to
Bernie supporters.Many so called progressives betreyed the progressive movement by supporting clinton in primarys.

the clintons are reaching out to bush and cruz donors.as well as corporate republicans who don't like trump since he can't be
controled.

There are many reasons why bernie supporters don't like Clinton.

[restorefreedom]

31. could someone please pass the kleenex.......

that's a shame...





she brought it on her damn self. enjoy losing to you know who

[Gomez163]

32. That's now. Wait till they stop having Bernie egging them on.

[Gomez163]

48. They had enough of Nader crap. That's why

[Gomez163]

96. You'll be leaving June 16 or not saying this after that.

[Gomez163]

107. We don't need people here that don't care if Donald Trump is president

because they're financially comfortable and can afford to indulge their petty BS.

[Gomez163]

111. Slander is not free and open discussion

[Gregorian]

35. You think? It's higher numbers than that where I've been.

And growing.

[WolverineDG]

36. What a shock

Make people feel unwelcome & they act like, well, they were made to feel unwelcome.

[writes3000]

38. What show did you see this on? What other poll results were there?

[Tarc]

42. Time is needed to heal the bitters

[randome]

43. You've been wrong about everything so far, why would you think you're right about this?

Sherlock Holmes would laugh at this.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Stop looking for heroes. BE one.[/center][/font][hr]

[MyNameGoesHere]

52. I've never counted on

Libertarians and pseudo Democrats to vote for her anyway. Like their candidate, a Democrat of convenience so are they.

[Robbins]

94. we're not out the door yet and you can't hold your bashing

there are bernie supporters who have been voting democrat for years.I am one of them.

go ahead and call us as you all have been doing every name in book.your candiate cares more about republicans like kissinger
and bush donors than us anyway.

[MyNameGoesHere]

113. I didn't say all

And yes he has some Democrat supporters even though he is only a Democrat of convenience.

[MyNameGoesHere]

125. Sanders is a politician of convenience

And his abandonment of social Democrats/socialist to be more convenient got him what he deserved, loss and a irrelevant politician.

[TDale313]

54. Gee, who woulda predicted? n/t

[tonyt53]

57. Most wouldn't have voted for Bernie in November. Their interest will be gone by then.

[tonyt53]

76. New to politics, huh?

[Bluenorthwest]

116. Bernie won the closed primary here in Oregon by a double digit margin, Oregon has among the

highest voter participation in the nation, two Democratic Senators and 4 out of 5 Representatives are Democratic, the State House is blue, the Governor as well.

Your profile says you are from Kentucky, our States voted on the same day. Kentucky turnout was 21% while ours was 39.7%, still shabby by our standards but nearly twice your turnout. Your Senators are Rand Paul and Mitch McConnell and 5 out of 6 of your Reps are Republican.


So it is an interesting choice for you to attack Oregon as not paying attention while your State has half the turnout and twice the Republicans in office. I say twice to be kind. It's far worse than that.

[tonyt53]

128. Most of his supporters wouldn't show up in November even if he was the nominee. Seen this before

Bandwagon jumpers do not vote in the GE.

[Herman4747]

58. Some Bernie Supporters ask:

Why vote for deceitful Hillary when we can instead vote for Dr. Jill Stein of the Green Party?

[whatthehey]

109. A sensible Bernie supporter answers:

Because a vote for Clinton has relevance to an election which will only be won by either the D or R nominee. A 3rd party spoiler vote is a waste of time and utility.

[hellofromreddit]

62. Probably because we've been portrayed as violentracistsexistimmatureselfish bros by her campaign.

People tend to react somewhat negatively to month after month of baseless insults.

[seabeyond]

64. 40% are Libertarians and baggers and others.... I imagine they are not gonna vote Clinton.

I mean that is exactly the amount outside the Democratic party, that would never vote Democrat. And Sanders is not Democrat, hence his support from those that won't vote Democrat or a woman for anything in the world.

[Bluenorthwest]

121. Bernie won the closed Democratic primary in Oregon by double digits. You insult the Democrats

of this actively Democratic State while you sit in Texas, which had the second lowest turnout this year and which has Cruz, Cronyn and Abbot along with a Red State House.

Smearing entire States that deliver electoral votes to Democrats which your own State gives to Republicans is an interesting choice to make. Not sure what you get out of it but is sure does not help Hillary, Bernie, Obama, the Democratic Party or the United States of America so I hope what you get for yourself is something you value.

[arely staircase]

70. Those numbers look pretty good actually. Given the facts on the ground.

That is encouraging.

[WI_DEM]

87. Well then we will just have to win without them

Other polls show many more Bernie supporters supporting Hillary. It's a shame they have to be such cry babies. We Hillary supporters say we would support Bernie because we understand what a Trump presidency would mean.

[MohRokTah]

92. BWAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!

Oh that's a HILARIOUS phony story!!!

Same shit from PUMAs in 2008, different assholes proclaiming they won't vote for the nominee!!!!!

[Doctor_J]

99. This latest stunt to suppress the California vote won't help. But those who love her love her for

her corruption, corporatism, and Machiavellian approach, so this will further endear her to them.

[HooptieWagon]

102. Yep. Republicans loved Nixon, until he got caught.

Then they pretended like they never heard of him. Same will happen with Hillarians.

[MoonRiver]

101. So who are you going to vote for?

[onecaliberal]

106. There is NO ONE who could change my mind.

As if she wasn't despicable enough, the last few days sealed it for everyone I know.

[George II]

112. Will they defy their leader when he asks them to vote for Clinton?

[Stellar]

114. May 2008 CNN Poll: 50% Of Clinton Supporters Said They Wouldn't Support Obama.

DailyKos

Passions are hot, people are saying things that I certainly hope they will reconsider when we get into the general election season. One of two people will be the next president of the United States. They will decide what the Supreme Court will be like for at least the next decade, they’ll decide if we move forward trying to stop the civilization ending on coming train that is Global Warming, they’ll decide whether 100 years of progressive gains will be erased in the short term of a presidency…

Here’s a CNN Poll from May 2008:

(CNN) - Just how badly is the Democratic Party divided?

According to the exit polls, half of Clinton's supporters in Indiana would not vote for Obama in a general election match up with John McCain. A third of Clinton voters said they would pick McCain over Obama, while 17 percent said they would not vote at all. Just 48 percent of Clinton supporters said they would back Obama in November.

Obama gets even less support from Clinton backers in North Carolina. There, only 45 percent of Clinton supporters said they would vote for Obama over McCain. Thirty-eight percent said they would vote for McCain while 12 percent said they would not vote.

Obama voters appear to be more willing to support Clinton in November. In Indiana, 59 percent of Obama backers said they'd vote for Clinton, and 70 percent of Obama backers in North Carolina said they'd support the New York Democrat.

[Stellar]

130. LOL...but the same old arguments and I voted for Bernie in 2016.

[Sheepshank]

118. out-"liar" numbers and no links.

ok sure, you go with those numbers.

[Vattel]

119. Some will vote for the lesser of the two evils and some won't.

I think Hillary will win regardless. The numbers just don't add for Donald.

[MohRokTah]

129. Can't post in your own thread any more, eh?

Oh well, you only have three more posts before MIRT can't stop you any more and it will take the Admins to do the job.