2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumNo better way to get out the vote in CA, then to tell voters the race is over, don't bother
voting. From what I hear, lines are long this morning in Los Angeles!
on edit -- Don't mess with California!
LexVegas
(6,060 posts)TonyPDX
(962 posts)LexVegas
(6,060 posts)arely staircase
(12,482 posts)People who like Bernie better but think Clinton will be the stronger candidate can now vote for him without worrying about him getting the nomination.
woodsprite
(11,914 posts)David__77
(23,390 posts)I'm alright with new organizations reporting on their tallies of delegates.
frazzled
(18,402 posts)Are you saying that Sanders supporters are completely disinterested in anyone or anything aside from him? If so, one probably can't count them among the politically committed (or astute).
Besides, this announcement by the AP (which is done every election cycle, btw) is more likely to make Clinton supporters stay home, if anything at all. Why bother if your candidate has already won? But Clinton supporters are mostly Democrats, and they care about putting a good Democrat in the Senate next year (be it Kamala Harris or Loretta Sanchez).
SDJay
(1,089 posts)Harris and Sanchez are both REALLY pissed off at the shenanigans from last night. Lower turnout would theoretically harm both of them, even though they're both likely quite safe given the structure of our primaries. That said, this type of tomfoolery messes with other races and even after sleeping on it I'm still quite unhappy about that.
bigwillq
(72,790 posts)I hope they vote for Bernie.
I hope they vote for Clinton.
I hope they vote for the candidate of their choice.
Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)When I was a kid the party was the party of the young, hopeful people who wanted progress - civil rights, voting rights, school integration, an end to the war. Now those people are being insulted and being told that their optimism is an impediment to the coronation of a conservative who's being investigated by the fbi.
SFnomad
(3,473 posts)Mz Pip
(27,442 posts)California is last.
Our ballot is long. We have 34 people running for Barbara Boxer's seat, congressional primaries, local elections. About half the state does mail in, as it is. Californians are paying attention to many other races and issues. If anyone is staying home because Hillary has been declared presumptive nominee isn't doing so because they are being forced to. They just don't care enough about the other issues.
Obama had clinched the nomination California voted in 2008. It's not voter suppression knowing who the nominee is before we vote. It's just the reality due to most of the country voting before us.
SFnomad
(3,473 posts)California voted on February 5th in 2008 long before Obama clinched the nomination. California was known as the "Big Enchilada" that year.
Mz Pip
(27,442 posts)Maybe I'm remembering wrong but I just don't remember it making a difference.
We have lots of down ticket elections that are important. People who haven't already voted should do so.
SFnomad
(3,473 posts)California is last.
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Obama had clinched the nomination California voted in 2008. It's not voter suppression knowing who the nominee is before we vote. It's just the reality due to most of the country voting before us.
I'm assuming you meant to say that Obama had clinched the nomination before California voted in 2008, but missed a word. And that would be factually incorrect.
California had their primary on February 5th, 2008 during Super Tuesday.
Obama clinched the nomination on June 3rd, 2008.
California moved their primary back to June in 2012.
Mz Pip
(27,442 posts)My memory is of Clinton winning. I guess I figured it was late in the season.
I wonder why it was moved to the end? Seems odd to have such a large state go last.