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AP walks back Clinton "cinch" (Original Post) TalkingDog Jun 2016 OP
That's not a walk back PepperHarlan Jun 2016 #1
which apparently is quite necessary. BootinUp Jun 2016 #3
Yes, apparently it is. PepperHarlan Jun 2016 #5
They never called her the "nominee". George II Jun 2016 #2
Hence, the word "presumptive". Did you read the first part? They clearly explained why. TwilightZone Jun 2016 #4
then why the hell the dozens of posts here and everywhere from h fans,saying:"she's won,she's won" wendylaroux Jun 2016 #10
Well, she has won. brush Jun 2016 #12
+1 n/t. okieinpain Jun 2016 #11
And many people don't know the meaning of the word "presumptive." RoccoR5955 Jun 2016 #21
Too late now assholes, i hope the media got paid well. Marrah_G Jun 2016 #6
Just like she's "President-elect Clinton" from election day until the inauguration. nt msanthrope Jun 2016 #7
They are simply clarifying the meaning of "presumptive nominee” for the clueless tinfoilers. DCBob Jun 2016 #8
Actually, it's cLinched... and nothing special here Democrats Ascendant Jun 2016 #9
You need to correct your thread title. It's clinch, not cinch. KingFlorez Jun 2016 #13
Calling this voter suppression is insulting to the real victims of actual voter suppression. onenote Jun 2016 #14
OMG +1,000,000 Democrats Ascendant Jun 2016 #15
When will the dishonesty stop. joshcryer Jun 2016 #16
I not one to wallow in the misfortune of others, but seeing how i will be a part of it in the future nolabels Jun 2016 #17
Presumptive Dem2 Jun 2016 #18
I swear some people have never followed an election before WhollyHeretic Jun 2016 #19
No they didn't! auntpurl Jun 2016 #20
 

PepperHarlan

(124 posts)
1. That's not a walk back
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 11:59 AM
Jun 2016

It's clarifying what happened last night for people who have zero understanding of the process.

TwilightZone

(25,462 posts)
4. Hence, the word "presumptive". Did you read the first part? They clearly explained why.
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 12:00 PM
Jun 2016

This is nothing new.

brush

(53,764 posts)
12. Well, she has won.
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 12:12 PM
Jun 2016

There's no way for Sanders to catch her.

It'll become official on the first ballot at the convention.

 

RoccoR5955

(12,471 posts)
21. And many people don't know the meaning of the word "presumptive."
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 12:27 PM
Jun 2016

So they only hear the word "nominee."

9. Actually, it's cLinched... and nothing special here
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 12:01 PM
Jun 2016

She is the PRESUMPTIVE nominee, as every eventual nominee is called until they are certified at the party's convention.

onenote

(42,693 posts)
14. Calling this voter suppression is insulting to the real victims of actual voter suppression.
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 12:13 PM
Jun 2016

The people who have faced violence and intimidation to prevent them from voting, who in the past faced poll taxes and other unconstitutional hurdles, and who today are being disenfranchised by ID requirements that are difficult for poor and elderly voters to meet.

No one is preventing a single Sanders voter from going to the polls. Not one. If they choose not to vote it's entirely on them. The reality is that they have exactly the same reason to vote today as they did yesterday. Sanders strategy was and still is to win as many contests by as large a margin today as possible thereby cutting into (but almost certainly not erasing) Clinton's pledged delegate lead. His strategy then involves taking the results from today along with GE polls to the SDs in an effort to persuade them to switch.

That strategy is unaffected by yesterday's announcement particularly since it was widely reported on Sunday and Monday that Clinton was so close to having a combined total of pledged delegates and SDs that it was inevitable that she would be proclaimed the presumptive nominee as soon as New Jersey (a state Sanders admitted he isn't going to win) was called.

So if Sanders voters stay home the only explanation is that they're low information voters who never understood what Sanders' game plan was or they're fairweather supporters -- hardly the revolutionaries they've been depicted as.

nolabels

(13,133 posts)
17. I not one to wallow in the misfortune of others, but seeing how i will be a part of it in the future
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 12:16 PM
Jun 2016

The thing most don't understand about language is that it is infective and viral when the victims become ripe.

Don't say we didn't tell you so

auntpurl

(4,311 posts)
20. No they didn't!
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 12:18 PM
Jun 2016

They explained their process. They didn't walk back anything. Your cherrypicked quote is extremely disingenuous.

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