On June the 16th Democratic Underground becomes a pro Democratic Party website again.

[arely staircase]

[eastwestdem]

1. How nice will that be!! nt

[guillaumeb]

2. Is it not a pro-Democratic site now?

Perhaps I missed the change?

[geek tragedy]

15. 104 people rec'd a post explaining how it was okay for progressives to vote for Donald Trump.

Before it was (barely) hidden by a jury of actual Democrats and our allies.

I would say those 104 people are not Democrats nor are they our allies.

Once that crowd leaves DU, it will be a much better place.

[guillaumeb]

25. While these 104 may or may not be Democrats, I believe

that their actions demonstrate a lack of sense.

If by progressive we mean advocating for a progressively liberal viewpoint, a vote for Trump makes no sense. He is running as a racist.

I understand the anger and frustration of people who worked hard for a candidate, but that anger and frustration was undoubtedly shared by HRC supporters in 2008. Voting against the party cannot strengthen that party and I believe that Bernie Sanders will say as much and more after the Convention.

[geek tragedy]

27. You and I agree. There were some horrid PUMAs in 2008 that went

for McCain over Obama because they had lost their goddamn minds.

[auntpurl]

29. But very, very few.

[auntpurl]

28. It was absolutely shared by Hillary supporters in 08. I was one of them.

I came around by November (actually it was never in question that I would vote for him, but I wasn't HAPPY about it for a good long while) and so did the vast majority of even the PUMAs (of which I was never one).

The same thing will happen this election season. No sane person wants Trump anywhere near the WH. Even putting liberal issues aside, we can't rule out nuclear war if he's got his finger on the button. Much less keeping ACA, keeping same sex marriage, rights for women, minorities, and the disabled.

[guillaumeb]

42. True. Support for one's favorite candidate aside,

choose the better candidate. Not voting is having no voice.

[stopbush]

36. Democrats are not only progressives. We are a big tent party.

To imagine that only the progressive agenda needs to be served by the D Party is ludicrous.

[PowerToThePeople]

17. It is.

We don't dislike Hillary because she is a Democrat, we dislike her for being a neoliberal war hawk.

[guillaumeb]

26. But that still begs the question:

HRC or Donald Trump? That will apparently be the choice. So which one does a voter choose and why?

[brush]

30. You call her a neoliberal, since when is she calling for austerity?

[MohRokTah]

3. WOOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[qdouble]

4. Will be nice to see

Many posters here hate Hillary more than Trump...will be nice when it stops being bizarro world.

[-none]

6. Are you implying that Bernie Sanders is not running on Democratic principals?

Never mind that he is running a more honest campaign and is NOT under FBI investigation.

[arely staircase]

7. No. I mean GOP talking point anti Clinton Smears will no longer be allowed.

Oh happy day.

[Bluenorthwest]

8. Do you think OP's such as yours which implies that Sanders voters are anti Democratic

will still be allowed? Bernie won my State by a wide margin and you are suggesting this very Democratic State is not really Democratic. That's actually very nasty work.

[arely staircase]

11. Your inference machine is broken. nt

[1StrongBlackMan]

45. LOL ... There seems to be a lot of that happening since April 2015 ...

See: &quot Why) Why are you calling Sanders a racist?"

[brush]

34. Easy, you're reading a whole lot into that post that's not there.

[Raster]

14. The Hillarian echo chamber will be complete.

Get your tap shoes on... you're going to need them.

Just wait 'til "the haters" start digging into the Foundation and pay-for-play, among other things. It will become painfully apparent that all this "historical significance," i.e., selecting an abysmal candidate to satisfy their self-aggrandizing hubris comes at a price.

[geek tragedy]

16. and then they can publish their findings at Free Republic! But not here, since trying to help Trump

win isn't allowed here.

[Joe the Revelator]

37. So you WANT to bury your head in the sand? Also, the argument could be made,

that factual criticism, is actually constructive. Interesting.

[JimDandy]

21. Oh pish posh. Obvious intent is obvious.

You were able to be precise here but not in the OP?

R i i i ght.

[geek tragedy]

10. no but some of his purported supporters express their hatred

of the party, when they're not citing stories from Breitbart and Fox News.

[yourout]

9. Your missing a word....pro "Corporate" Democratic Party.

[berni_mccoy]

12. This ^^^

[SidDithers]

13. Good..

And I bet it'll be posting privileges before principles for the loudest of the #neverHillary brigade.

Sid

[PowerToThePeople]

20. ..

[joshcryer]

22. #PostingPrivilegesBeforePrinciples

Cowards. Big men to trash Democrats for years under a stacked jury system, hiding AA posters "uppitiness," being downright nasty beyond belief. Going to get right quiet and wait it out so they can start their shit before inauguration day. Any compromise, any kind of human decency will be rebuffed with ad hominems and downright ugliness.

[auntpurl]

33. Skinner says there's going to be a new moderating system in place

Hopefully the attacks like that will NOT be able to start back up again after the GE.

[mac56]

18. ---

[LibDemAlways]

19. No, it becomes an echo chamber

for people who love income inequality, fracking, big banks, and war. No thanks.

[seekthetruth]

35. Or for people who are more interested in a personality....

....than supporting ideals that are sorely lacking in the leadership of this country.

[LonePirate]

43. Your post perfectly summarizes this primary season, albeit not for the reason you think.

Sanders' supporters dislike Clinton for the reasons you mention. However, Clinton's supporters like her for a completely different set of reasons (not for the reasons you claim).

Similarly, Sanders' supporters like him for reasons that are different than the reasons Clinton's supporters dislike him.

You have boxed everybody into your narrow viewpoints while failing to accept that different people can view complex subjects (in this case, political candidates and their positions) and arrive at a different conclusion than one you reached.

[felix_numinous]

24. This is a donkey

that is kicking its own ass.

[MrMickeysMom]

31. It always was supposed to be this way...

and you need to understand that the Super Delegates do not vote until July 25th.

[stopbush]

38. Along with every other delegate who doesn't get to vote until July 25.

And that includes the pledged delegates who are not actually bound to vote for any particular candidate, either.

[arely staircase]

40. Primary season officially ends are DU June 16th.

Posters will be expected to support the presumptive nominee.

[seekthetruth]

32. More like a sounding board.....no thanks.

No debate, just submission. Just about the most undemocratic environment I can think of.

[imagine2015]

39. Did you mean a Hillary Clinton campaign website to defeat Bernie Sanders at the national convention?

[arely staircase]

41. Bernie's defeat is complete. At the convention he will be a strong voice for party unity.

You'll see.

[mountain grammy]

44. I've always thought this was a pro Democratic Party website.

I'm sorry you don't. It's a sad day when arguing politics and policies is considered anti Democratic Party.

Please don't dismiss us as not being pro Democratic party just because we may favor one candidate over another.

[Ken Burch]

46. It was always a pro-Democratic website.

You don't have to prefer HRC to Bernie to be pro-Democratic.