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NWCorona

(8,541 posts)
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 05:03 PM Jun 2016

NBC: No one wanted Hillary Clinton to win this way

"No one wanted Hillary Clinton to win the Democratic nomination Monday night -- not even Hillary Clinton.

The Associated Press’ surprise decision to declare Clinton the party’s presumptive nominee the night before voters headed to the polls in six states Tuesday has muddled the impact of Clinton’s historic accomplishment and salted the wounds of Sanders supporters.

The declaration, based on a survey of superdelegates, was quickly followed by other news outlets, including NBC News. It sent reporters scrambling and put both candidates and the rest of the Democratic Party in an awkward position as the race was called when few expected it to end.

For Clinton, this is not how she wanted to become the first woman to be a major political party’s nominee. During a monumental moment, Clinton kept the party under a lid, instead of breaking out the champagne. "


http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/no-one-wanted-hillary-clinton-win-way/amp

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NBC: No one wanted Hillary Clinton to win this way (Original Post) NWCorona Jun 2016 OP
"Clinton kept the party under a lid, instead of breaking out the champagne"--can anyone explain MisterP Jun 2016 #1
There were super delegates who had come on board with her but radical noodle Jun 2016 #3
That is a HeadScratcher™ NWCorona Jun 2016 #4
maybe it means she wanted to play down any "clinches"? MisterP Jun 2016 #6
I think Hillary wants to keep her distance from this announcement NWCorona Jun 2016 #11
subterfuge grasswire Jun 2016 #19
The AP...they wanted to beat the scoop. FarPoint Jun 2016 #7
She didn't want a tight race to be called with millions of ppl left to vote. joshcryer Jun 2016 #16
Maybe AP wants to help Trump? radical noodle Jun 2016 #2
I call bullshit. Hiraeth Jun 2016 #5
hehe me too! nt Jack Bone Jun 2016 #15
Awwwwwww.......no sale. djean111 Jun 2016 #8
"She deliberately ran an ugly campaign." NurseJackie Jun 2016 #13
Nonsense. Winning is all that matters, by hook or by crook. closeupready Jun 2016 #9
Clearly AP gamed it C_U_L8R Jun 2016 #10
if she's dissapointed, or her supporters are disappointed floppyboo Jun 2016 #12
Bullshit! nt Jack Bone Jun 2016 #14
snicker Hiraeth Jun 2016 #17
a "secret" survey of SD's shanti Jun 2016 #18
Which is strange since Obama and Biden are the two that put her over -- supposedly. aikoaiko Jun 2016 #20
This whole primary season has been nothing but one giant Shit Show that the whole world sees. TheBlackAdder Jun 2016 #21
Much ado about nothing...the race has actually been over for weeks alcibiades_mystery Jun 2016 #22
This is exactly how she wanted to win: any way she could. JimDandy Jun 2016 #23

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
1. "Clinton kept the party under a lid, instead of breaking out the champagne"--can anyone explain
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 05:04 PM
Jun 2016

this phrase to me?

radical noodle

(8,000 posts)
3. There were super delegates who had come on board with her but
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 05:06 PM
Jun 2016

she asked them to wait until the voting was done. She didn't want to go over with them, she wanted to go over with pledged delegates.

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
6. maybe it means she wanted to play down any "clinches"?
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 05:09 PM
Jun 2016

usually hamhanded moves are from her endless proxies and any clinching talk before the polls close could backfire (as it hopefully has)

NWCorona

(8,541 posts)
11. I think Hillary wants to keep her distance from this announcement
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 05:13 PM
Jun 2016

But judging by the reaction here. I think some champagne was definitely broken out.

FarPoint

(12,334 posts)
7. The AP...they wanted to beat the scoop.
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 05:10 PM
Jun 2016

Media made this happen...Not the Democratic Party nor the Clinton Campaign.

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
8. Awwwwwww.......no sale.
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 05:11 PM
Jun 2016

Really - fishing for sympathy? She deliberately ran an ugly campaign. Period.

I could care less about the "First woman" crap. I don't like her on many many issues. That's all there is to it.

C_U_L8R

(44,997 posts)
10. Clearly AP gamed it
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 05:12 PM
Jun 2016

Why and for whom leads to a lot of guessing. But I can't say, based on past partisan shenanigans, that I put a lot of trust in the AP.

floppyboo

(2,461 posts)
12. if she's dissapointed, or her supporters are disappointed
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 05:13 PM
Jun 2016

you really should have considered the outcome of your actions. When you are the presumptive nominee in March, and spend the next 3 1/2 months shouting victory, you are simply not going to get your big champagne 'wow' moment.

Another example of unintended consequences? Live with it.

aikoaiko

(34,165 posts)
20. Which is strange since Obama and Biden are the two that put her over -- supposedly.
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 05:24 PM
Jun 2016

Again, our primary system is fucked up.

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
22. Much ado about nothing...the race has actually been over for weeks
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 05:38 PM
Jun 2016

Few people will remember this little kerfuffle six months from now, much less next year.

JimDandy

(7,318 posts)
23. This is exactly how she wanted to win: any way she could.
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 05:42 PM
Jun 2016

This is the first Democratic candidate I can recall in my lifetime that, because she was so enraged by being primaried, "win ar any cost" became the driving force behind her campaign.

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