This time 8 years ago Barack Obama

[justiceischeap]

was named the presumptive Democratic Presidential nominee in a race much closer than this one. I remember a lot of folks on DU being just fine with that call. No one was blaming the media of conspiracies, no one thought Obama was head of some all-powerful media influencing cabal and the Super D's were a thing of beauty.

It's amazing how 8 years can make such a difference in how some of the Democratic stalwarts on DU react.

[tonyt53]

1. But back then, the Democratic primary was not invaded by outside groups.

Indies voted for indies in the GE.

[monmouth4]

2. Obama was an incredibly great candidate, no baggage, no lies, etc. n/t

[justiceischeap]

3. Oh, so it's okay to change the way things have been done for years

because you don't like the candidate. Got it.

[aikoaiko]

11. That's the thing about convention -- sometimes it gets challenged.

[NWCorona]

4. And when it was called every state had already voted

[TimPlo]

5. Bah facts don't matter.

Did the America give up when German bombed Pearl Harbor!!!

[Califonz]

9. It's OK, the USA won the Civil War.

[TimPlo]

12. Ha you must live in a non-south state.

I moved down south and it seems many people think the South is still alive and fighting.

[Califonz]

16. So you're saying there's still a chance

that the South will secede from the Union?

oh please oh please oh please...

[justiceischeap]

10. I agree the AP jumped the gun but

how much difference was one night going to make? Do you really believe that Bernie is going to win 67% of all the races tonight and DC next week? Do you truly believe all the Super D's were going to go against the voters will and name him the nominee?

That's not very likely to happen.

[NWCorona]

13. We can agree on AP jumping the gun and I'll leave it up to those voting today then DC

To decide how much it really matters.

[TimPlo]

18. FBI is RW funded SiperPac.

See a Clinton Supporter explained it to me. Take letters FBI 6 2 9 Since F = 6 letter to number and it is first letter we get 6 + 1 = 7
then we have B = 2 now we take 2 plus 3 because FBI is 3 letters and B is second letter in FBI 2 + 3 = 5. And since we used first letter already as 1 we get 15 and since I = 16 and it has 2 letters before it in FBI we get 16 + 2. Put them all together we have 7 15 16

7 = G
15 = O
18 = P

That proves the the FBI = GOP

[LenaBaby61]

7. I have to admit...

I wasn't too happy, as a Hillary Supporter that night 8 years ago...

However, I understood what was at stake in the bigger picture, and threw ALL of my support behind Sen. Obama, and that worked out wonderfully. Pres. Obama--2 time President.

Now, here it is 8 years later, and I'm a happy camper nearing the end of the Dem Primaries

[NWCorona]

14. And I'm not trying to take your happiness away.

[LenaBaby61]

19. No....

I know you're not.

I will readily admit that I'm not too happy with the AP's calling Hillary the Presumptive Dem nominee, because I'm pretty sure Hillary would have wanted it to have happened "officially" via New Jersey.

But what's done is done unfortunately.

[MyNameGoesHere]

8. 8 years ago I switched on a dime

and did the right thing by supporting Obama, and it was Glorious, absolutely Glorious! Just like today is.

[LenaBaby61]

20. Yes indeed....

Totally HAPPY today, and moving forward

[jwirr]

15. This time? After CA and the other states? The AP declared

her a Queen yesterday in order to suppress the vote. It is totally different than in 08.

[Ken Burch]

17. But not until AFTER the primaries. Everyone had voted first.

That makes a massive difference.

[Lord Magus]

21. 2000 & 2004 primaries were called long before everyone had voted.

That's usually how it works. Very rarely does a primary come down to the wire like 08.

[Ken Burch]

22. Which is why 2000 and 2004 aren't worth discussing in this context. n/t.

[Lord Magus]

23. So what is worth discussing in this context?

This primary didn't go down to the wire either.