2016 Postmortem
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Doesn't mean the person with less votes wins.
Doesn't mean the person with less pledged delegates wins.
Doesn't mean that the will of those voters who elected those pledged delegates should have their will overturned.
It does NOT mean the loser is the winner.
I'm sorry, but all this conspiracy about something being stolen, rigged, taken from you is actually being attempted... You know trying to undo an entire primary season by having elected and former party officials appoint you as the nominee........
Call it what it is. It's an attempt to subvert democracy and steal an election from someone else who has rightfully won.
Now, can we please just move on from this absolute silliness and rally around our official Democratic nominee ~ Hillary Clinton?
Agnosticsherbet
(11,619 posts)boston bean
(36,221 posts)grasswire
(50,130 posts)It's not over 'til it's over.
But thanks to all you Hillaryans for lighting a fire that has forged a coalition of progressives and independents that will overwhelm the Third Way from now on. We outnumber you in a tsunami of energized, informed, motivated voters.
Sayonara.
morningfog
(18,115 posts)tonyt53
(5,737 posts)morningfog
(18,115 posts)It just isn't. Should it be? Yes! But it is not.
Stuckinthebush
(10,844 posts)So, whoever has 50% plus 1 pledged delegates wins, right?
morningfog
(18,115 posts)I hope they are done away with by 2020.
Stuckinthebush
(10,844 posts)As long as they insist that whoever runs as a Dem has been a party member or supporter of the party for a substantial period of time.
I bet the GOP is looking at instituting something similar!
anotherproletariat
(1,446 posts)She'll have more pledged delegates and more total delegates. Not to mention more popular vote. Seems pretty clear.
Stuckinthebush
(10,844 posts)Any way you slice it, it comes up Clinton.
aikoaiko
(34,165 posts)But the primary system, by design, is not a true democracy. That is one of the main reasons that the interpretation of wrong-doing is so easy.
Don't get me wrong, even as a Bernie supporter I don't want Bernie to win by flipping delegates. It shouldn't be possible, but our party designed the rules of the primary to allow this to happen.
Bernie is doing us a big favor by helping to reveal the warts of our system so that we can improve it.
JimDandy
(7,318 posts)I am so glad that Bernie is my candidate. Hillary Clinton ran a disgustingly anti-democratic campaign, start to, I'll bet, the finish on July 28. Next to a diamond like him Clinton looks like a piece of gravel.
sadoldgirl
(3,431 posts)libdem4life
(13,877 posts)For decades I've been told, as a Liberal Democrat, that I must hold my nose "the clothespin vote" and vote for the lesser of two evils...usually starting at the Primary.
Then the GE...one being Republican and one being Democratic. Seldom was there a separation of more than a few political millemeters between them, in my Liberal opinion. It is called The Center...and rightly or leftly so.
This election season I beheld and vigorously backed a candidate f or the first time...since my first vote for McGovern...that shared my principles.
That is all.