I'm asking for help.

[NCTraveler]

"An ‘extremely credible source’ has called my office and told me that Barack Obama’s birth certificate is a fraud"

"Ariana Huffington is unattractive, both inside and out. I fully understand why her former husband left her for a man. – He made a good decision.”"

"I will build a great wall – and nobody builds walls better than me, believe me – and I’ll build them very inexpensively. I will build a great, great wall on our southern border, and I will make Mexico pay for that wall. Mark my words.”"

"When Mexico sends its people, they’'re not sending the best. They’re not sending you, they’re sending people that have lots of problems and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bring crime. They’re rapists… And some, I assume, are good people.”"

"Our great African-American President hasn’t exactly had a positive impact on the thugs who are so happily and openly destroying Baltimore.”"

"The beauty of me is that I’m very rich.”"

"It’s freezing and snowing in New York – we need global warming!”"

This just scratches the surface. It's nothing compared to what is out there. Clinton isn't just a little bit better. She is worlds better. I am not saying she is even close to where you would like her to be on the ideological spectrum, but a Trump she is not.

I'm asking for help from Sanders supporters and will continue to do so. I strongly believe an overwhelming majority will. Trump is not an option. I will highlight the monster this guy is.

Keep trying to pull the party to the left. As a whole it is too centrist for me. I'm not asking you to lay down your arms. But help us with your vote in November.

By all appearances Trump or Clinton will be the next President. Nothing done or said during these primaries should stop anyone from at least showing up in November.

[dchill]

1. I can't stop an FBI investigation.

[NCTraveler]

2. I would never ask you to. Nt

[Gomez163]

3. They should be investigating trump.

[TimPlo]

17. He is being tried for Fraud

But it is a Civil case not Criminal. And he was able to pay off many AG from various states to drop the case, thanks to money in politics that people like Clinton support and embrace.

[dchill]

36. Dueling indictments?

[democrattotheend]

4. I'm in

I am bitter about the AP jumping the gun and about the way some of Hillary's supporters on here are behaving, but at the end of the day stopping Trump is way more important.

I am very ambivalent about Hillary, but if I lived in a swing state I wouldn't even have to think about whether or not I planned to vote for her, given the alternative.

I may not vote for her, but only because I live in a solid blue state and I think it would be best for democracy in the long run if she were to win the electoral college and lose the popular vote. I even very briefly considered not voting for Obama, whom I love, for the same reason.

Either way, I will do what I can - make phone calls, try to convince other Bernie supporters to get on board, travel to a swing state to do election protection if I can. Trump needs to be stopped at all costs.

[herding cats]

5. Yep. Me, too.

I didn't vote for Hillary, but I'm gonna work my butt off to stop Trump.

[peace13]

35. If Bernie does not go third party you can bet your butt..

..that it will be Bernie supporters that do the work to get Hill in. They just don't get what it takes.

[herding cats]

38. Bernie won't go third party.

And, his supporters will be a driving force in beating Trump this year.

I believe both of my statements to be true. Bernie is a smart man, and he won't enable a Trump presidency. His supporters are also smart, it's why they supported him, and they won't enable a Trump presidency.

Some of the things said during primary season in places like this one skew perspectives. In the end, I believe we're going to work for what's best this year, and keep pounding away at our larger goals with a biger hammer now, thanks to Bernie. People are listening to our populous message, and now taking us seriously! I'm so glad Bernie ran, and he added to our voice, and I think (hope) to our next platform.

[peace13]

39. Well, I've worked elections and I know who does the work ....

...but I am sad to say that I don't feel anything but disgust for Clinton. Her lies combined with a broken system make things pretty difficult. I have yet to meet anyone who is voting for her. if Trump makes it, yes he is a bad man but I feel Clinton's connections and secrecy and always skating just outside the law is even more worrisome. Bill seems to be a loose cannon and his proximity to the red button does nothing for me. Time I'll tell.

[democrattotheend]

40. I don't think she is a bad person

I think she is at best a clumsy politician and at worst opportunistic/wishy washy and secretive/opaque. But I also think she is smart, tough, very well versed in policy, and has shown a lot of courage throughout her career. Not necessarily in staying true to her positions the way Bernie has (but come on, how many politicians are as genuine/true believers as Bernie?), but in terms of putting up with all the crap people have thrown at her and being willing to defy gender stereotypes.

[herding cats]

41. I've worked elections, too.

Most all presidential elections in my adult life I've been active in, and more local elections than I can count anymore. From school board up to US Senator, I've logged hours of volunteer time. Some presidential elections I've worked more than others, but I've at least volunteered in some capacity almost every time.

I personally know both Hillary and Bernie supporters. I'm active in my local Dem party, and we're a diverse, active group. We never berated each other like what I've seen here. Not even close, if I'm being frank. We're activist, most of them with decades on me, and we understand what we are up against, and what we're fighting for. We agree, and disagree, but we work as a team in the end.

I'm sure this may vary by region. Depending what you deal with on a daily basis in your district, I'd think local flavor and opinions will vary. But, this is my real world, and it's nothing like what people say here, or seem to be dealing with, during primary season.

We work, we effect change, we vote. We celebrate what gains we've made. That's my personal reality.

[NCTraveler]

6. Thank you for sharing that.

I'm not very happy with the AP either. I also have reservations about Clinton and have shared them during the primaries on DU. That isn't to say I'm not an enthusiastic supporter.

I'm very interested in seeing some national polls two or three weeks down the road. I'm not sure what this is going to settle down to look like, specially regionally.

[sadoldgirl]

7. Are you using scare tactics again???

Nobody, no one knows what Trump would do. That
is his game right now.
He will say outrageous things just to get the
attention of the media.
I even think that he does play into HRC's favor
because of all the idiotic things he says. He may
not want to get the job, because it is asking for
work as well as responsibility.

Again, he is playing his own game or the one of
the Clintons. Nobody knows, what he would do!

Will I vote for him? Absolutely not! But this effort of
claiming that you or anyone else could know his plans
as a scare practice does not cut it with me.

[Madam Mossfern]

10. I still think he ran

to get Hillary elected.

[sadoldgirl]

22. Of course he did. The man is shrewd and

knows the media and how to use them.
Nobody would say these stupid things unless
they wanted the opposition to win.
I am sure that he loves to destroy the repug
party with a glee.

Just wait until he will refuse to debate her. Should he win
though, it will be HRC's fault.

What angers me is that the establishment thinks that
the voters are so stupid not to see that game. Well,
perhaps a lot of voters are getting fooled by this
charade.

[TimPlo]

21. Well acording to a article I read today Trump would double his income

if he get elected. According to NY state tax returns Trump is getting New York State School Tax Relief Program (STAR) tax credit that is only able to get if your income is 500,000/year or less. So Trumps claim he has 10 billion dollars is not true. Because if you are only making 500k/year you are either lying or you are worst investor in the world, A US Saving bond would give you more return annually than that.

[sadoldgirl]

23. Possibly true, but that is not why he is running.

Don't forget that the two daughters (Clintons' and
Trump's ) are great buddies.

[TimPlo]

25. Well yea usally parents as close as Clinton and Trumps are the

Kids will be friends too.

[rhett o rick]

8. The problem I am having is that I view our whole election process as a massive fraud.

We are allowed to vote to make us think we are still living in a democracy but we aren't. The winner in Nov will be the person that The Powers That Be, the people that will make billions maybe even trillions from the outcome, chooses.

[sadoldgirl]

9. +1000

[NCTraveler]

11. Here is why I think you are completely wrong.

A nobody in politics just challenged a formidable frontrunner.

I don't mean the nobody as a slam. He was a completely unknown seventy year old senator out of a small state. He challenged her.

[rhett o rick]

12. I hope you recognize that the DNC, the Corp-Media and Citizens United were all on

his opponent's side. Almost all of the "Super-Delegates" came out to support Clinton before the campaigns got started. They obviously didn't care what transpired during the primary. Their minds were made up. I firmly believe that the Rich and Powerful Establishment will do literally, and I do me literally, anything to keep power. It's worth trillions to them.

Sen Sanders' success was in spite of the system. The DNC tried every thing possible to discourage him. And do you wonder why Sen Warren decided to shut up and sit down when this campaign started? My guess is that she got a nice talking to by the DNC or who ever runs them.

We know the Rich and Powerful stole the elections in 2000 and 2004 so why is it such a stretch in 2016.

[NCTraveler]

16. You don't seem to be familiar with CU.

I do believe the wealthy have too much influence in politics. Sanders did prove the game isn't obscenely rigged. That is not a larger statement on economics. Impediments? Of course. It's called running for President with no name recognition while going up against an already established machine. Sanders would have been more established had he ran in '08 as well.

[TimPlo]

27. The system is not designed to be completly rigged.

It is there to push it a little way on way or the other. Take FL 2000. That is a example where the DNC got out rigged by the DNC. 2008 we had a African American that got the black voting block to actually vote in record numbers, switching a Red state like NC. There was no way the RNC could push it slightly to get a win because Obama and black voting block was too strong. We might not have it this time because black vote is not going to be as enthused about voting this time around. When I went to vote for Obama down here in SC 2009 primary the place was crowded as hell as I am in a heavy black area. But this time same polling places and there seemed to be a ton less voters.

2008 ~529,000 people voted in DNC primary.
2016 ~327,000 people voted.

[rhett o rick]

30. Sanders did prove the system is terribly flawed. We saw shenanigans in many, many

states. Every one of them favored Clinton. I could go on with the list of irregularities but I know you don't want to hear such. You seem to wish to rationalize that it was a fair election so you don't have to worry about trying to fix the system.

I appreciate that you are at least listening and not using ad hominem attacks that have become the standard for Clinton fans.

I will leave you with this. We know that Clinton is very, very rich. She got that way from the generosity of others that are very, very rich. It's a fact that the rich and very, very rich like to keep getting richer and care very little for the rest of us. It's not likely that Clinton took the enormous wealth and then turn her back on those that gave it to her. Quid pro quo is a real thing. Also, the very, very rich that want Clinton to be president, are not used to losing. They don't like to lose and are willing to spend enormous amounts to see victory. Some, not all, but some may even be willing to get nasty. Karl Rove has made a nice living helping the very, very rich win and not by nice means.

I doubt this will register, but when Sen Sanders was deciding to run he told someone and I wish I had kept a link, that he acknowledged that running as a progressive would incur risks to himself and his family. He knew that those that opposed his running might not take it lightly. There are billions and possibly trillions at stake.

[stranger81]

14. Sheldon Wolin had a great term for this.

"Managed democracy."

From wikipedia:

"Wolin believes the democracy of the United States is sanitized of political participation, and describes it as managed democracy: "a political form in which governments are legitimated by elections that they have learned to control". Under managed democracy, the electorate is prevented from having a significant impact on policies adopted by the state through the continuous employment of public relations techniques.

Wolin believes the United States resembles Nazi Germany in one major way without an inversion: the essential role propaganda plays in the system. According to Wolin, whereas the production of propaganda was crudely centralized in Nazi Germany, in the United States it is left to highly concentrated media corporations, thus maintaining the illusion of a "free press". According to this model, dissent is allowed, though the corporate media serve as a filter, allowing most people, with limited time available to keep themselves apprised of current events, to hear only points of view that the corporate media deem 'serious'."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inverted_totalitarianism

[rhett o rick]

24. This theory makes a lot of sense. I believe the problem is exacerbated by the fact that we

have generations that have been raised without a liberal education. They have been brought up to follow their authoritarian leaders; parents, teachers, coaches, scout leaders, religious leaders, etc., blindly, without the healthy skepticism. This explains the bitter hatred for anyone that dares speak up to their chosen leaders. They despise people like protestors, whistle-blowers, investigative journalists, progressives, OWS, actually anyone that speaks truth to power. They will rationalize the brutal treatment of protestors and whistle-blowers. They choose to live in an ignorance bubble, thinking the NSA will look out for their best interest and not Booz Allen Hamilton's best interest. And if someone tries to pull the curtain back, these authoritarian followers will go to any length to punish such behavior. Oh yes, one behavior is to use Conspiracy Theory as a pejoritive to shut up anyone that dares theorize about possible conspiracies. The authoritarian followers despise CT, because it shakes their comfort bubble where they pretend that their authoritarian leader is taking good care of them like their mommy.

[Armstead]

13. The GOP is awful 24/7/365......But that is only part of the larger problem

She gets my vote in November.

That's about all I can say.

[Barack_America]

15. You have my help down-ballot.

[Joe the Revelator]

18. Remember that the entire 'birther' fiasco started with her 2008 campaign.

Just because Trump took it to absurd levels does not make her any better.

[NCTraveler]

19. Yes, she is worlds better. Nt

[Joe the Revelator]

20. :sigh: Cool.

[welivetotreadonkings]

26. I consider myself further to the left than Bernie is himself...

And absolutely I will vote for Clinton over Trump. I'm in a swing state so I'm going to try to convince everyone I know to make the effort to show up. Elections matter.

[Xyzse]

28. She, sadly has my vote on November.

Scaring people to vote for her is not enough and a losing game plan. I don't see her as worlds better than Trump as both of them would get gimped by the house and Senate.

Already have so many politically conscious friends who predictably vote Democratic unsure about voting on November. I am able to convince them about local races, but that's all I can do. Even I have a hard time saying that I'll vote for her in November.

Her methods have been dirty, and her fundraising seems tapped.

Good luck.

[grasswire]

29. THE ONLY SURE WAY TO STOP TRUMP...

....is for BERNIE to be the candidate.

That is clear.

Begging Bernie supporters to shore up your weak candidate is a losing proposition. We should not have to bail you out, and many of us won't.

[NCTraveler]

31. Obviously, I disagree.

I do understand many of you won't.

[grasswire]

32. if you look at it with logic, and not with ..

...some "identity" bias, you must admit it's true.

The one who can win is not the one you choose.

[NCTraveler]

33. "Identity bias"

Sorry to see that.

[grasswire]

34. nothing else makes sense.

In what world does a person just hope that a weaker candidate out of two candidates will beat a bad guy?

[bigwillq]

37. I will vote.

I always do. Lots of good DEMs downticket to vote for in my blue state of CT

[Logical]

42. I'm with you 100%!