2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumUSAToday "Clinton deserves credit for making history" USAToday 2 Days Ago "Secretary without honor"
Apologists for Hillary Clintons alleged criminal mishandling of classified documents say that it doesnt matter, that she really did nothing wrong, or nothing significant. But the real question is not so much what she did as how she has responded to being found out.
Back in the 1990s, Clinton was an undisputed pioneer a transformational or at least transitional figure who ushered in the era of the first lady as feminist, activist and presidential partner. Now, on the brink of a far more profound advance for women, even if some of us cant summon unalloyed joy, at the very least we owe Clinton recognition and respect. Shes done it. Shes made history.
I saw some heroic acts in combat in Vietnam, things that made me proud to be an American and a Marine. Clinton is the antithesis of that young captain (he left top secret codes out/unencrypted for anyone to look at resulting in the entire military changing their codes as a precaution), someone with no honor, little courage and commitment only to her endless ambition. This has nothing to do with gender, party affiliation, ideology or policy. It is a question of character not just hers, but ours. Electing Clinton would mean abandoning holding people accountable for grievous errors of integrity and responsibility. What we already know about her security infractions should disqualify her for any government position that deals in information critical to mission success, domestic or foreign. But beyond that, her responses to being found out dismissing its importance, claiming ignorance, blaming others indict her beyond anything the investigation can reveal. Those elements reveal her character. And the saddest thing is that so many in America seems not to care.
Exerpts:
http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2016/06/07/clinton-deserves-credit-making-history-jill-lawrence/85554642/
Blockquotes:
http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2016/06/05/hillary-clinton-email-scandal-consequences-integrity-honesty-column/85205018/
thesquanderer
(11,986 posts)Response to pantsonfire (Original post)
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Lord Magus
(1,999 posts)Quit spamming that trash in every post.
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)Sour Grape threads CRACK ME UP!!!!!!
pantsonfire
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(12,689 posts)Zynx
(21,328 posts)Damn it, people. Learn something about how the world works.
Lord Magus
(1,999 posts)But you really love that far-right op-ed from 2 days ago it seems.
Bill USA
(6,436 posts)premise with no evidence to support it. author hopes she did something terribly wrong. No evidence she did.
IT's the kind of disinformation somebody with a rabbit's brain would think proved something. It does not.
he says: "But the real question is not so much what she did as how she has responded to being found out."
.."found out"? ... rather obvious, suggests she did something that was wrong, illegal. NOthing of the sort has happened.
The Hillary Clinton e-mail scandal that isnt
Does Hillary Clinton have a serious legal problem because she may have transmitted classified information on her private e-mail server? After talking with a half-dozen knowledgeable lawyers, I think this scandal is overstated. Using the server was a self-inflicted wound by Clinton, but its not something a prosecutor would take to court.
Its common that people end up using unclassified systems to transmit classified information, said Jeffrey Smith, a former CIA general counsel whos now a partner at Arnold & Porter, where he often represents defendants suspected of misusing classified information.
There are always these back channels, Smith explained. Its inevitable, because the classified systems are often cumbersome and lots of people have access to the classified e-mails or cables. People who need quick guidance about a sensitive matter often pick up the phone or send a message on an open system. They shouldnt, but they do.
Its common knowledge that the classified communications system is impossible and isnt used, said one former high-level Justice Department official. Several former prosecutors said flatly that such sloppy, unauthorized practices, although technically violations of law, wouldnt normally lead to criminal cases.
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First, experts say, theres no legal difference whether Clinton and her aides passed sensitive information using her private server or the official state.gov account that many now argue should have been used. Neither system is authorized for transmitting classified information. Second, prosecution of such violations is extremely rare. Lax security procedures are taken seriously, but theyre generally seen as administrative matters.
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Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)are too scary to them. trump would try to start wwiii and sanders would try to make deep cuts to the power of the corporations, including the media conglomerates. the media moguls are counting on tpp, ttip, no single payer healthcare, no minimum wage hike, and other right wing results. mrs Clinton will be the media favorite from here on out.