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pantsonfire

(1,306 posts)
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 06:18 PM Jun 2016

Why Hillary Clinton Could Face Indictments and How This Makes Bernie Sanders Nominee

Why Hillary Clinton Could Face Indictments and How This Makes Bernie Sanders Nominee

It’s a crime under the Espionage Act to willingly, or inadvertently, transfer 22 Top Secret emails from secure State Department servers, to an unguarded private server. Clinton’s server was unencrypted for three months.

Under the Espionage Act, “gross negligence” is enough to prosecute, so intent isn’t needed when evaluating the harm done to national security from an unencrypted private server containing Top Secret emails. Simply claiming ignorance, or disinterest, or naiveté in using a private server isn’t enough to circumvent criminal indictments under the Espionage Act.

Therefore, the basis for imminent indictments rests upon the fact that neither the State Department, nor the president gave Clinton the authority to use a private server.

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Why Hillary Clinton Could Face Indictments and How This Makes Bernie Sanders Nominee (Original Post) pantsonfire Jun 2016 OP
Nope. nt onehandle Jun 2016 #1
BWAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!! MohRokTah Jun 2016 #2
Yeah you have to take him with a grain of salt... pantsonfire Jun 2016 #4
H.A. Goodman has never written a word of truth in the entire primaries. MohRokTah Jun 2016 #8
You shouldn't if you think he's a liar, I'd say he's overzealous 99-1 a liar. pantsonfire Jun 2016 #12
Nope, it's 100%. Never told the truth once during the entire primary season. eom MohRokTah Jun 2016 #14
Just brushing it off your shoulder, nice. pantsonfire Jun 2016 #26
Ain't This Lyin? CorporatistNation Jun 2016 #44
Finally a voice of reason. pantsonfire Jun 2016 #51
He's like a digital baby's pacifier, isn't he? NurseJackie Jun 2016 #6
My God. This was debunked months ago. Gomez163 Jun 2016 #3
What was? n/t pantsonfire Jun 2016 #5
This espionage act theory. Its garbage. Gomez163 Jun 2016 #9
yep WhiteTara Jun 2016 #10
Explain this to me, The State Department Report kind of says she did. pantsonfire Jun 2016 #15
would you believe a word I type? WhiteTara Jun 2016 #21
Yeap I'm a conservative assassin, I've replaced David Brooks position. pantsonfire Jun 2016 #29
what does that even mean? WhiteTara Jun 2016 #31
Actually, there is no set procedure for how a replacement is picked after the convention democrattotheend Jun 2016 #7
Is it even possible to change the name on the ballot in many states just before the election? Ash_F Jun 2016 #19
Different states have different laws on this democrattotheend Jun 2016 #27
OK but that is if the candidate dies. This would be different. Ash_F Jun 2016 #55
She will govern from the comfort of a Federal Penitentiary... Matt_R Jun 2016 #75
And let's not forget when Hillary Clinton mention RFK's assassination in 08 during the primaries... pantsonfire Jun 2016 #32
Knew this was Goodman before I even opened it. Bleacher Creature Jun 2016 #11
It still wouldn't erase the fact that Sanders LOST KingFlorez Jun 2016 #13
I heard that from the AP even before we voted today. So Sad. pantsonfire Jun 2016 #23
Is this what BS cheerleaders have been reduced to? Regurgitating debunked talking points? n/t SFnomad Jun 2016 #16
Not debunked, you just like to think so. pantsonfire Jun 2016 #34
And yet Hillary Clinton hasn't held a press conference in 6 months....hmmm pantsonfire Jun 2016 #17
but this clock says 123 days! MisterP Jun 2016 #18
What does that have to do with anything? -nt- Lord Magus Jun 2016 #25
Have you been following this primary? pantsonfire Jun 2016 #37
Yes, what relevance is there to when Hillary's called a press conference? -nt- Lord Magus Jun 2016 #50
The saddest thing is that most people don't seem to care that Hillary Clinton may have broke the law pantsonfire Jun 2016 #20
Lawbreaking is only worthy of concern when Republicans do it.[n/t] Maedhros Jun 2016 #41
Cult thinking. Lizzie Poppet Jun 2016 #43
Yes, he can.....what about Hillary Clinton, can she do no wrong? pantsonfire Jun 2016 #46
??? Lizzie Poppet Jun 2016 #54
Even hardcore Bernie supporters realize his followers are like a cult Dem2 Jun 2016 #63
Bernie can do no wrong? Dem2 Jun 2016 #61
She has broken no law. apcalc Jun 2016 #73
she did. gross negligence at very least. Voice for Peace Jun 2016 #78
Goodman is a Rand Paul supporter. He's also completely wrong about the nomination process. TwilightZone Jun 2016 #22
Snazzle pantsonfire Jun 2016 #38
HAHA Goodman's meltdown continues. Lord Magus Jun 2016 #24
And Salon TwilightZone Jun 2016 #35
Let's trash the few independent media outlets out there... pantsonfire Jun 2016 #40
If they post stuff from HA Goodman, they deserve the label. TwilightZone Jun 2016 #45
Independent is not synonymous with quality. Lord Magus Jun 2016 #49
Salon is great, Huff is ok, you are generalizing thousands of stories published by them. pantsonfire Jun 2016 #59
Nobody said the entire site is bad. Lord Magus Jun 2016 #64
Russia Today? TwilightZone Jun 2016 #67
It seems like you are blindly judging them without ever watching a single RT program... pantsonfire Jun 2016 #68
So, you have no idea who Russia Today is. TwilightZone Jun 2016 #71
My roommate works for them, so I know a little bit. pantsonfire Jun 2016 #74
Straws brettdale Jun 2016 #28
Unencrypted Server pantsonfire Jun 2016 #36
June 14th .... LenaBaby61 Jun 2016 #30
Thank God the Bernie homer internet lawyers are on the case at huffpost! workinclasszero Jun 2016 #33
won't updates on the FBI criminal investigation be allowed in GD? floppyboo Jun 2016 #39
There are rare updates, I'm not sure why not, unless we want journalism to really die. pantsonfire Jun 2016 #47
I oughtn't entertain your silly hypothetical, but in such a situation, we would parachute in Biden tritsofme Jun 2016 #42
How's he been acting? pantsonfire Jun 2016 #48
Probably not...but that's nothing to do with "the way he has been acting." Lizzie Poppet Jun 2016 #57
pantsonfire is a good screen name for you. n/t Lil Missy Jun 2016 #52
Thanks for sharing Mr. Trump. NNadir Jun 2016 #53
9 days MFM008 Jun 2016 #56
Pants on fire Dem2 Jun 2016 #58
The truth is a good friend already, but I'll make a few more friends if they care to care. pantsonfire Jun 2016 #62
Ahh, so you are the Lord who knoweth the truth Dem2 Jun 2016 #66
Get up, my floor is dirty and you're wearing white pants, idiot! pantsonfire Jun 2016 #70
We're miles under "gross negligence" here, I'm afraid Tarc Jun 2016 #60
"documents, totaling 37 pages, were not marked classified at the time they were sent"..ooops Bill USA Jun 2016 #65
There will be no indictments. apcalc Jun 2016 #69
God? pantsonfire Jun 2016 #72
Of course not. This is foolishness. nt BreakfastClub Jun 2016 #76
Many miles between "could" and "shall." merrily Jun 2016 #77
 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
2. BWAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 06:21 PM
Jun 2016












H. "Fucking" A. Goodman is always good for a belly laugh!!!!!!!
 

pantsonfire

(1,306 posts)
4. Yeah you have to take him with a grain of salt...
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 06:22 PM
Jun 2016

But, it doesn't make what he says about her actions untrue, the title is HA GOODMAN all the way.

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
8. H.A. Goodman has never written a word of truth in the entire primaries.
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 06:24 PM
Jun 2016

Why should I believe the liar now?

CorporatistNation

(2,546 posts)
44. Ain't This Lyin?
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 06:43 PM
Jun 2016

Just Don't Ask Her No Questions... And She Won't Tell Us No Lies!



e.g., MSNBC To the deniers... Watch THIS Video... It is not comforting to think that she may well be the Democratic Nominee...

Hillary really betrayed Andrea Mitchell... The entire context of this report was of a solemn nature... A Funeral so to speak...

Andrea Mitchell "I do not see this report as ...ANYTHING BUT... DEVASTATING!"

Chuck Todd "After this I don't think that she could get confirmed for Attorney General!"

Lots of FIBBING by Hillary here.. for more than a year!

 

pantsonfire

(1,306 posts)
15. Explain this to me, The State Department Report kind of says she did.
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 06:28 PM
Jun 2016

There's a link to the espionage act there, if you want to read it.

WhiteTara

(31,154 posts)
21. would you believe a word I type?
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 06:32 PM
Jun 2016

I don't think so. I think your mind is made up and you are just waiting for Ftizmas.

democrattotheend

(12,011 posts)
7. Actually, there is no set procedure for how a replacement is picked after the convention
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 06:24 PM
Jun 2016

It is up to the parties, and as far as I can tell the DNC doesn't really have a procedure laid out for replacing a nominee after he/she has been formally nominated. This wasn't an issue in 1968 because RFK was shot after locking up the nomination (there were no supers back then) but before actually being nominated.

Ash_F

(5,861 posts)
19. Is it even possible to change the name on the ballot in many states just before the election?
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 06:32 PM
Jun 2016

I don't think so.

democrattotheend

(12,011 posts)
27. Different states have different laws on this
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 06:36 PM
Jun 2016

In some states if a candidate dies their name stays on the ballot and then if they win a special election is held or an appointment is made. In some states a replacement can be picked quickly. In Minnesota in 2002 leaving Wellstone's name on the ballot was not an option, which sucked because he probably would have won posthumously. What was really unfair was that they counted the absentee ballots that went for Coleman, despite having a different opponent, but the absentee ballots that were cast for Wellstone did not count for Mondale.

Matt_R

(456 posts)
75. She will govern from the comfort of a Federal Penitentiary...
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 12:50 AM
Jun 2016




dear jury I'm just kidding, there is nothing comfortable about them at all.
 

pantsonfire

(1,306 posts)
32. And let's not forget when Hillary Clinton mention RFK's assassination in 08 during the primaries...
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 06:38 PM
Jun 2016

KingFlorez

(12,689 posts)
13. It still wouldn't erase the fact that Sanders LOST
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 06:25 PM
Jun 2016

An indictment make Sanders a winner. Period.

 

SFnomad

(3,473 posts)
16. Is this what BS cheerleaders have been reduced to? Regurgitating debunked talking points? n/t
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 06:29 PM
Jun 2016
 

pantsonfire

(1,306 posts)
20. The saddest thing is that most people don't seem to care that Hillary Clinton may have broke the law
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 06:32 PM
Jun 2016

It always goes back to Bernie and his desperation. Considering her documented behavior by her own State Department, you have to ask yourself, are you thinking critically about this?

Dem2

(8,178 posts)
63. Even hardcore Bernie supporters realize his followers are like a cult
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 06:55 PM
Jun 2016

You made an accidental funny as you missed the irony in your post.


TwilightZone

(28,836 posts)
22. Goodman is a Rand Paul supporter. He's also completely wrong about the nomination process.
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 06:33 PM
Jun 2016

But then, he's wrong about pretty much everything.

Lord Magus

(1,999 posts)
24. HAHA Goodman's meltdown continues.
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 06:35 PM
Jun 2016

Would be nice if Huff Post stopped giving him a forum for his trash though.

 

pantsonfire

(1,306 posts)
40. Let's trash the few independent media outlets out there...
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 06:41 PM
Jun 2016

Not the 6 companies that own 90% of all media and make us stupider.

TwilightZone

(28,836 posts)
45. If they post stuff from HA Goodman, they deserve the label.
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 06:44 PM
Jun 2016

His stuff is most definitely trash. Ditto Ben Norton and Patrick Smith, two more Salon and DU favorites.

Salon went to hell because they decided that sensationalism was king. Has nothing to do with the rest of the media world.

Lord Magus

(1,999 posts)
49. Independent is not synonymous with quality.
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 06:46 PM
Jun 2016

If an outlet publishes garbage they should be called out on it no matter who the owner is.

 

pantsonfire

(1,306 posts)
59. Salon is great, Huff is ok, you are generalizing thousands of stories published by them.
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 06:51 PM
Jun 2016

They do better reporting then many major news companies. Take this for example, CNN didn't report on the occupyCNN protest that was happening outside their building, RT did (Yes, that's Russian Television), but from what I've seen they have a lot of integrity. Maybe there's a reason Larry King left CNN to work there?

Lord Magus

(1,999 posts)
64. Nobody said the entire site is bad.
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 06:56 PM
Jun 2016

Just that they sully themselves by publishing HAHA Goodman's garbage.

Also are you seriously saying Russia Today has integrity? For that matter are you saying Larry King has integrity?

tritsofme

(19,766 posts)
42. I oughtn't entertain your silly hypothetical, but in such a situation, we would parachute in Biden
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 06:42 PM
Jun 2016

Sanders isn't getting anywhere near the nomination or the White House, especially not after the way he has been acting lately.

 

Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)
57. Probably not...but that's nothing to do with "the way he has been acting."
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 06:51 PM
Jun 2016

It's about not allowing an actual agent of meaningful change anywhere near the Oval Office.

 

pantsonfire

(1,306 posts)
62. The truth is a good friend already, but I'll make a few more friends if they care to care.
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 06:54 PM
Jun 2016

Tarc

(10,595 posts)
60. We're miles under "gross negligence" here, I'm afraid
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 06:52 PM
Jun 2016

By all means get this out of your system though, you still have some time left.

Bill USA

(6,436 posts)
65. "documents, totaling 37 pages, were not marked classified at the time they were sent"..ooops
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 06:56 PM
Jun 2016

[div style="float:right;" class="excerpt"]State Department spokesman John Kirby said the documents, totaling 37 pages, were not marked classified at the time they were sent, but are being upgraded at the request of the Intelligence Community because they contain sensitive information.



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