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workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 08:31 PM Jun 2016

Dems to Sanders: 'Stand down'

With Clinton ascendant, Democrats worry further infighting distracts from taking on Donald Trump.
By BURGESS EVERETT and SEUNG MIN KIM 06/07/16

Sen. Barbara Mikulski and other Democratic senators are trying to turn eyes away from Bernie Sanders and to Hillary Clinton. | Getty

Democratic senators want to hear a concession speech from Bernie Sanders — soon.

Hillary Clinton’s coronation as the presumptive Democratic nominee has ratcheted up frustration with Sanders’ defiant fight for the Democratic nomination, exposing divisions when party leaders want the spotlight trained on Donald Trump's flaws. But Sanders' campaign remained unyielding after The Associated Press called the nomination for Clinton, with one top aide calling the news outlet's declaration "one of the most appalling things I’ve seen in a long time."

“He should stand down now. That’s my conclusion,” said Sen. Bill Nelson of Florida. “Democrats will come together after the convention, anyway. But it’s an unnecessary diversion at this point.”

Democrats believe they have Republicans on the ropes after Trump’s repeated allegations that a federal judge overseeing a case against Trump University can’t be impartial because of his Mexican heritage. Anything distracting from that is a wasted opportunity, they say.

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/06/democrats-push-bernie-sanders-drop-out-224007
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Dems to Sanders: 'Stand down' (Original Post) workinclasszero Jun 2016 OP
not gonna happen grasswire Jun 2016 #1
Oh please. Lord Magus Jun 2016 #3
He heads a demographic. annavictorious Jun 2016 #6
What demographic? Joe the Revelator Jun 2016 #20
comon' don't be shy what demographic do you mean? azurnoir Jun 2016 #29
A little hyperbolic workinclasszero Jun 2016 #8
Why do you call it a coronation annavictorious Jun 2016 #2
England has had a queen since 1952. (nt) w4rma Jun 2016 #4
Not This DEMOCRAT pmorlan1 Jun 2016 #5
Let him be KingFlorez Jun 2016 #7
Now MSNBC says he will be in DC campaigning on Thursday! Wow. bettyellen Jun 2016 #9
I say Stand up and be heard! bigwillq Jun 2016 #10
Nelson also authorized the invasion of Iraq. Vattel Jun 2016 #11
"Stand down" sounds quire militaristic Armstead Jun 2016 #34
hy·poc·ri·sy TimPlo Jun 2016 #12
Politicians making obeisance to another politician is an art. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2016 #13
What a Joke pmorlan1 Jun 2016 #14
Jesus Christ, it couldn't possibly be Sanders' fault, could it? randome Jun 2016 #24
I agree pmorlan1 Jun 2016 #33
You can't call it teamwork if Sanders isn't going to listen to anyone but himself. randome Jun 2016 #39
You are being ludicrous Armstead Jun 2016 #36
Thank you pmorlan1 Jun 2016 #44
Giving great speeches does not equate to building teams with other legislators. randome Jun 2016 #45
I've admired him for years because he says the things that the rest of them ignoire Armstead Jun 2016 #48
If he's not going to listen to anyone but himself, though, he's throwing away a golden opportunity. randome Jun 2016 #49
I wasn't referring to her waiting to retire... Armstead Jun 2016 #50
Most of "America" doesn't know random senators from random states yodermon Jun 2016 #41
It remains to be seen whether his efforts bore fruit. I sincerely hope they do. randome Jun 2016 #46
Thank you pmorlan1 Jun 2016 #47
He'll have to be carried off to Bellevue. n/t Lil Missy Jun 2016 #15
This is a job for Batman! workinclasszero Jun 2016 #17
Christ....They talk about Sanders supporters being bullies? Armstead Jun 2016 #38
Bernie isn't a dem. I see no reason why he should obey them. Autumn Jun 2016 #16
Then why is he running for the Democratic nomination? nt. Nonhlanhla Jun 2016 #18
he lost no need to be a Dem anymore azurnoir Jun 2016 #31
Trump will welcome you with open arms. Go for it. baldguy Jun 2016 #32
sandsrs supporters to dem elite:go fuck yourselves. nt restorefreedom Jun 2016 #19
+1,000 Vattel Jun 2016 #23
+1001 dchill Jun 2016 #27
Sadly... the Dem elite started that one. AmBlue Jun 2016 #35
yup. can't be a surprise. nt restorefreedom Jun 2016 #37
+ 1002. (and I have never dropped the F-bomb here) Jackilope Jun 2016 #51
A concession speech would be nice but him just going away would work for me too. Number23 Jun 2016 #21
Not Gonna HAPPEN... AzDar Jun 2016 #22
This is all about one person = Clinton Rosa Luxemburg Jun 2016 #25
Why? dchill Jun 2016 #26
Give Senator Sanders some space. He will take the appropriate action. He will not walk out on Trust Buster Jun 2016 #28
Forget THAT. nt AmBlue Jun 2016 #30
The Only People Who Have a Say pmorlan1 Jun 2016 #40
Amen!! jillan Jun 2016 #43
11 million supporters, run along now. Voters under the age of 45, the Dems want you to go away now. jillan Jun 2016 #42
STAND ON IT BERNIE!! Jack Bone Jun 2016 #52
Its HRC, her surrogates, and internet defenders who should stop fighting Bernie. aikoaiko Jun 2016 #53

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
1. not gonna happen
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 08:34 PM
Jun 2016

can't put this tsunami back in the bottle (to mix a metaphor)

Bernie has changed the face of America. He has nothing to lose by claiming the head of the movement position. Nothing. He now heads a coalition of progressives and independents that vastly outnumbers the party of the past.

This coalition is the future. No looking back.

 

annavictorious

(934 posts)
2. Why do you call it a coronation
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 08:34 PM
Jun 2016

when a woman wins and victory when a man wins?

The only people who are demanding a coronation are the people who are arguing that the candidate who lost by every metric and measure should be awarded the nomination anyway.

pmorlan1

(2,096 posts)
5. Not This DEMOCRAT
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 08:37 PM
Jun 2016

The Democratic establishment is their own worst enemy. I'm so sick of this shit. Every time they try to lecture Bernie and his supporters to get out of the race they make more enemies. Let the god damn election play out. How hard is that to understand? We DON"T TAKE ORDERS FROM YOU! We don't care that you want Bernie to quit. It's not up to you. His campaign is funded by us and we want him to stay in it until the Convention.

KingFlorez

(12,689 posts)
7. Let him be
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 08:40 PM
Jun 2016

Let him continue to run a campaign, hold rallies, raise money and behave as if they are multiple states left. He's in a state of mind that he has to come out of on his own.

 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
13. Politicians making obeisance to another politician is an art.
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 08:44 PM
Jun 2016

An art that requires that one tries to look dignified while doing something reserved for lackeys.

pmorlan1

(2,096 posts)
14. What a Joke
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 08:46 PM
Jun 2016
“It all depends on if he’s willing to be a team player and willing to come together and help the party move on and not create a problem. You go out and you’re trying to turn over all these superdelegates — not going to work. But the effort is divisive in and of itself,” Sen. Dianne Feinstein of California said.


A team player? You must be joking. Where was the "team" while he was running? They were all lined up against him putting obstacle after obstacle in his way but now they want him to be a team player? That's really rich.


The Democratic establishment politicians are the divisive ones. They are tone deaf and deserve nothing from us. I can't tell you how angry this piece made me.
 

randome

(34,845 posts)
24. Jesus Christ, it couldn't possibly be Sanders' fault, could it?
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 10:39 PM
Jun 2016

Virtually no endorsements, no coalitions, no partners, no teams, just sheer brute will power. And look what it got him.

25 years in the Senate and America still needed to 'get to know him'. Do you understand how ludicrous that sounds?
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Stop looking for heroes. BE one.[/center][/font][hr]

pmorlan1

(2,096 posts)
33. I agree
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 10:52 PM
Jun 2016

your post does sound ludicrous when the topic of conversation is about Dem. politicians telling him to get out of the race. It's not their place to tell him. We are funding him and we want him to stay in. They supported Hillary let them tell Hillary what to do.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
39. You can't call it teamwork if Sanders isn't going to listen to anyone but himself.
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 10:59 PM
Jun 2016

It is anyone's place to tell him when they think he's harming the party. Do you really think everyone should simply shut up and let Sanders do whatever the hell he wants? That sounds like Reince Priebus' "strategy" with Trump.

No, Sanders doesn't have to listen to anyone. That's par for the course for him, and explains why his own co-workers don't endorse him. Decent man, great ideas, but not a clue as to how to be a leader. A good leader is a good listener.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Stop looking for heroes. BE one.[/center][/font][hr]

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
45. Giving great speeches does not equate to building teams with other legislators.
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 11:09 PM
Jun 2016

That's the teamwork that's necessary. When your own co-workers don't endorse you, why would you think you can be their leader? I never understood the appeal of Sanders because he swooped in at the last minute into the Democratic Party and expected everyone to be in awe of him.

He says some great things but lots of legislators say great things. The ones that get support are those who shake hands and build teams. Like Clinton.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Stop looking for heroes. BE one.[/center][/font][hr]

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
48. I've admired him for years because he says the things that the rest of them ignoire
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 11:14 PM
Jun 2016

And he is popular as hell with the people of Vermont.

I'd rather a legislator who is that than someone who does the DC cocktail party circuit schmoozing and waiting til they can collect their golden paychecks from the corporate backers.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
49. If he's not going to listen to anyone but himself, though, he's throwing away a golden opportunity.
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 11:19 PM
Jun 2016

He calls himself a Democrat now but refuses to take any advice. "Schmoozing" is part of the deal. You have to meet with the people you work with, forge alliances and partnerships. Obama knew how to do that. Sanders seems out of his depth in that regard.

If you're implying that Clinton is waiting to retire, well, that's ludicrous because she could have done so long ago. She clearly isn't in this for the money.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Stop looking for heroes. BE one.[/center][/font][hr]

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
50. I wasn't referring to her waiting to retire...
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 11:22 PM
Jun 2016

People like Dick Gephardt, who is now raking in the big bucks representing the corps he was supposed to be regulating, and fighting against the things he was supposed to be defending.

The pissed offedness I and many others have about what has become of the Democratic Party is not limited to the Sanders v. Clinton primary. It goes way deeper.

yodermon

(6,143 posts)
41. Most of "America" doesn't know random senators from random states
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 11:01 PM
Jun 2016

No matter how long they've served. Not sure what your point is.
And your post just illustrates that the party establishment & media were against him from the start. I'll take "No shit" for 500, Alex.

"And look what it got him."...Yeah, he has organized a true left independent movement, basically the next phase of Occupy. So it didn't reach critical mass this cycle, bfd.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
46. It remains to be seen whether his efforts bore fruit. I sincerely hope they do.
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 11:14 PM
Jun 2016

But he's not doing anyone any favors -and, in fact, is making more enemies the longer he tries to tear down Clinton- that I wonder if he is throwing away the opportunities he has.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Stop looking for heroes. BE one.[/center][/font][hr]

 

Trust Buster

(7,299 posts)
28. Give Senator Sanders some space. He will take the appropriate action. He will not walk out on
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 10:45 PM
Jun 2016

Washington D.C.

pmorlan1

(2,096 posts)
40. The Only People Who Have a Say
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 11:00 PM
Jun 2016

in whether Bernie stays in this race are Bernie & the millions of people who funded his campaign. People that didn't donate to his campaign can STFU because it's none of their damn business.

jillan

(39,451 posts)
42. 11 million supporters, run along now. Voters under the age of 45, the Dems want you to go away now.
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 11:05 PM
Jun 2016

Hillary has been coronated. Fall in line or go away.

aikoaiko

(34,127 posts)
53. Its HRC, her surrogates, and internet defenders who should stop fighting Bernie.
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 12:04 AM
Jun 2016

Let him finish his campaign. He can't take it from you. He may get a few more delegates, but you can't lose.

So I ask why is Team Hillary still fighting Bernie? Why are so many demanding that he drop out when it doesn't matter if he stays in or not?
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