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Message auto-removed (Original Post) Name removed Jun 2016 OP
Post removed Post removed Jun 2016 #1
America is the loser RobertEarl Jun 2016 #17
A...friggn...men laserhaas Jun 2016 #22
Go away. For real. A hard fought campaign comes to a close. All Dems should be proud. YouDig Jun 2016 #2
........................................ Armstead Jun 2016 #7
Yeah you too. It's a historic day, do you not realize that? It was a great campaign, now concluded. YouDig Jun 2016 #9
Because it's the reality Armstead Jun 2016 #12
It aint over yetjust sayin... laserhaas Jun 2016 #23
Give me a break with that bullshit. YouDig Jun 2016 #24
A simple request -- Read this article Armstead Jun 2016 #41
Same crap over and over? Robert Rubin was in the Clinton Administration, we know. YouDig Jun 2016 #42
Okay. Life is peaches and cream. None of this matters. Armstead Jun 2016 #44
What? The "winners" don't have a right to celebrate? senz Jun 2016 #33
Yeah, I'm part of it. I'm a Democrat. YouDig Jun 2016 #34
Her V.P. pick? Segami Jun 2016 #13
petty and bitter is a really bad look geek tragedy Jun 2016 #14
Sorry but this is what we've done Armstead Jun 2016 #18
Yes, 75% of African-Americans, 60% of women, 64% of registered Democrats geek tragedy Jun 2016 #25
Don't worry....I'll soon not give a shit and you can have your election Armstead Jun 2016 #20
you're not doing a very good job of it. geek tragedy Jun 2016 #27
Bet they look familiar. They're the ones you threw our way. Remember? senz Jun 2016 #36
Don't lose mad. Just lose. nt LexVegas Jun 2016 #3
Bernie's already done that tonight PepperHarlan Jun 2016 #4
It's been a great day for the fracking industry! insta8er Jun 2016 #5
Yup laserhaas Jun 2016 #26
Precisely. nt AmBlue Jun 2016 #6
That was unnecessary Trust Buster Jun 2016 #8
Small. nt geek tragedy Jun 2016 #10
Real Armstead Jun 2016 #15
No, just whiny, petty, bitter, small-minded, and lacking in grace. geek tragedy Jun 2016 #19
Investing is their business, after all. Barack_America Jun 2016 #11
The consensus seems to be, let's pretend this is a victory for the people, and not big money! reformist2 Jun 2016 #16
They're getting what they wished for laserhaas Jun 2016 #28
Seven days to get it out of your system brooklynite Jun 2016 #21
Post removed Post removed Jun 2016 #29
How was the party. I heard it sold out..... think Jun 2016 #30
High fives all around from LibDemAlways Jun 2016 #31
Oligarchy!!! Oligarchy!!! Oligarchy!!! wendylaroux Jun 2016 #32
Plutocracy!!! Plutocracy!!! Amen k8conant Jun 2016 #35
Aww workinclasszero Jun 2016 #37
Mixed with ... JoePhilly Jun 2016 #40
lol Luciferous Jun 2016 #38
Sad, petty OP PepperHarlan Jun 2016 #39
Having to choose betwenn GS... and America' s Hitler mylye2222 Jun 2016 #43

Response to Name removed (Original post)

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
17. America is the loser
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 11:08 PM
Jun 2016

You can take your attitude to the bank. They won't give you shit for it, but we will.

 

laserhaas

(7,805 posts)
22. A...friggn...men
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 11:10 PM
Jun 2016

But moi has a surprise coming..for Sachs

YouDig

(2,280 posts)
2. Go away. For real. A hard fought campaign comes to a close. All Dems should be proud.
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 10:59 PM
Jun 2016
 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
7. ........................................
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 11:02 PM
Jun 2016

YouDig

(2,280 posts)
9. Yeah you too. It's a historic day, do you not realize that? It was a great campaign, now concluded.
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 11:05 PM
Jun 2016

What is the point of posting that picture right now?

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
12. Because it's the reality
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 11:07 PM
Jun 2016

We are about to elect the Goldman Sachs Worldview.

If you like the Goldman Sachs Worldview, it's a wonderful night.

 

laserhaas

(7,805 posts)
23. It aint over yetjust sayin...
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 11:10 PM
Jun 2016

YouDig

(2,280 posts)
24. Give me a break with that bullshit.
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 11:11 PM
Jun 2016

Look at what we're up against. His name is Trump.

Hillary does not have a "Goldman Sachs" worldview. She's a liberal, and has been all her life. MSNBC was just talking about her "women's rights" speech in China. You Hillary hating people just dwell on all the worst stuff you can think of and don't even try to look at the overall picture.

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
41. A simple request -- Read this article
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 11:33 PM
Jun 2016

http://www.nybooks.com/daily/2016/04/12/hillary-clinton-goldman-sachs-why-it-matters/
On the stump, Clinton’s criticisms of Wall Street can sound as radical as Bernie Sanders’s or Senator Elizabeth Warren’s. During a CNN debate with Bernie Sanders in March, Clinton said that she was in agreement that, “no bank is too big to fail, and no executive too powerful to jail” and that she has “the tools” to do it. In its earlier endorsement of Clinton in January, The New York Times itself highlighted her “proposals for financial reform” and her support for “controls on high-frequency trading and stronger curbs on bank speculation in derivatives,” which it cited as evidence that “she supports changes that the country badly needs.”

Yet Clinton’s repeated dealings with Goldman Sachs and its top executives since the financial crisis—including the 2013 speeches and more recent events involving the Clinton Foundation—run counter to such claims. To understand the significance of these dealings we have to bring together two strands of history. One concerns Bill and Hillary Clinton’s long-running connections to Goldman, among their closest with any US corporation. The second concerns Goldman’s activities leading up to and during the Wall Street crash of 2007–2008, including its deceptive marketing of contaminated mortgage derivatives.

The Clintons’ connections to Goldman Sachs can be traced back to their beginnings in national politics, in December 1991, when Robert Rubin, then co-chair co-senior partner of the bank, met Bill Clinton at a Manhattan dinner party and was so impressed by him that he signed on as an economic adviser to Clinton’s campaign for the 1992 Democratic nomination. According to a November 2015 survey of Clinton donors by The Washington Post, Rubin and other Goldman partners “mobilized their networks to raise money for the upstart candidate.”

As Bill Clinton’s secretary of the treasury from January 1995 until July 1999, Rubin was an architect of the financial deregulation that left financial derivatives such as Collateralized Debt Obligations (CDOs) largely free of controls. This paved the way for the large-scale, unregulated speculation in financial derivatives by Wall Street banks beginning in the early 2000s. (Goldman itself continued to enjoy special access to Washington during the George W. Bush administration, with former Goldman chief executive Hank Paulson serving as Treasury Secretary from 2006 to 2009.)

These long-running ties with Goldman have paid off for the Clintons. According to a July 2014 analysis in the Wall Street Journal, from 1992 to the present Goldman has been the Clintons’ number one Wall Street contributor, based on speaking fees, charitable donations, and campaign contributions, the three pillars of what I’ve called the Clinton System. As early as 2000, Goldman was the second most generous funder—after Citigroup—of Hillary Clinton’s 2000 Senate campaign, with a contribution of $711,000. In the early 2000s, Bill Clinton was also a Goldman beneficiary, receiving $650,000 from Goldman for four speeches delivered between December 2004 and June 2005. (The transcripts of these speeches do not appear to be currently available.)

By the winter of 2006–2007, however, Goldman and its CEO Lloyd Blankfein were becoming deeply involved in the collapsing housing bubble—and engaging in the practices that have since resulted in years of investigations and lawsuits. Data gathered mostly from the Corporate Research Project, a public interest website, show that on thirteen occasions between 2009 and 2016, Goldman was penalized by US courts or government agencies for fraudulent or deceptive practices that were committed mostly between 2006 and 2009. Four of these penalties amounted to $300 million or more.

In July 2010 the Securities and Exchange Commission fined Goldman $550 million for the fraudulent marketing of its Abacus CDO; the bank had allowed its client John Paulson to stuff the CDO with toxic ingredients, mostly in the form of mortgage-backed securities (MBSs), and then to bet against the CDO when it was marketed by taking a short position. Paulson earned around $1 billion when the CDO lost value as it was designed to do. In August 2011 the Federal Housing Finance Agency sued Goldman for “negligent misrepresentation, securities laws violations and common fraud” in its dealings with the semi-public mortgage banks Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. In August 2014 Goldman agreed as restitution to buy back $3.15 billion worth of securities it had sold to the two banks for $1.2 billion more than they were currently worth.

In July 2012 Goldman agreed to pay $25.6 million to settle a suit brought by the Public Employees Retirement System of Mississippi accusing the bank of defrauding investors in a 2006 offering of MBSs. In January 2013, the Federal Reserve announced that Goldman would pay $330 million to settle allegations of foreclosure abuse by its mortgage loan servicing operations. Finally, in January of this year, Goldman announced that it would pay $5 billion to settle multiple lawsuits brought by official agencies against the bank, mainly for fraudulent marketing of CDOs; the final terms of the settlement were released on April 11. (Through the availability of tax credits and allowances, Goldman may end up paying less.) Among the plaintiffs were the Department of Justice, the New York and Illinois Attorneys General, the National Credit Union Administration, and the Federal Home Loan Banks of Chicago and Seattle.

These are summary descriptions of Goldman transgressions, which do no more than point to a pattern of deceptive and often fraudulent trading in derivatives. To get a more detailed sense of what exactly the bank was doing with these trades, we have to look at Goldman’s own record of its behavior during the crash. This record, which is now in the public domain, provides a stark backdrop to Clinton’s recent dealings with Goldman...........


..........A third indication of Hillary Clinton’s recent approach to Goldman executives, however, is more substantial. This is a speech Hillary Clinton gave to Goldman executives, including CEO Lloyd Blankfein, on September 23, 2014, that is available on YouTube. It took place during the annual meeting of the Clinton Global Initiative (CGI) in New York, of which Goldman has been a leading sponsor. In her comments, Clinton held up Goldman as an outstanding corporate citizen that was supporting a CGI initiative to promote the role of women in the global workforce: “It is really exciting for me to be here and to look around this room and see so many people who are committed to this mission that we share, certainly from the business world led by Goldman Sachs.”

Nor are these the only indications of the Clintons’ continued close ties to Goldman. After the $650,000 he received from Goldman in 2004–2005 Bill Clinton received another $600,000 from the bank between 2006 and 2014, including $200,000 in 2011 at a time when the bank was lobbying Hillary Clinton’s State Department for changes in the Budget Control Act. The final bill included the reauthorization of the Export-Import Bank, which helped finance a company in which Goldman was a part-owner. In 2011 the Clinton Foundation decided to leave its Harlem offices on West 125th Street in Manhattan, and moved downtown to a Goldman building on Water Street. Three years later, in May 2014, when the Clintons convened their leading donors to discuss the foundation’s future plans, they chose Goldman’s corporate headquarters in Lower Manhattan as the venue. In her current campaign for president, Hillary Clinton has hired Gary Gensler, a former Goldman banker and former chairman of the Commodity Futures Trading Commission, as her chief financial officer.

YouDig

(2,280 posts)
42. Same crap over and over? Robert Rubin was in the Clinton Administration, we know.
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 11:39 PM
Jun 2016

So was Robert Reich, that doesn't seem to bother any of you.

Just for a day, drop the conspiracy mindset. At least try.

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
44. Okay. Life is peaches and cream. None of this matters.
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 11:44 PM
Jun 2016
 

senz

(11,945 posts)
33. What? The "winners" don't have a right to celebrate?
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 11:21 PM
Jun 2016

You think you're part of it?

&feature=youtu.be

YouDig

(2,280 posts)
34. Yeah, I'm part of it. I'm a Democrat.
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 11:23 PM
Jun 2016
 

Segami

(14,923 posts)
13. Her V.P. pick?
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 11:07 PM
Jun 2016
 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
14. petty and bitter is a really bad look
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 11:07 PM
Jun 2016

maybe log off the Internet if you can't do anything but toss a turd in other people's punch bowl

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
18. Sorry but this is what we've done
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 11:09 PM
Jun 2016

You wanted the Clintons you get their budskis too

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
25. Yes, 75% of African-Americans, 60% of women, 64% of registered Democrats
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 11:11 PM
Jun 2016

And a strong majority of all voters.

Whiny and bitter isn't the same thing as righteous.

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
20. Don't worry....I'll soon not give a shit and you can have your election
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 11:10 PM
Jun 2016
 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
27. you're not doing a very good job of it.
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 11:12 PM
Jun 2016

You can have the last word. You're clearly here to get into fights. Off to Iggy for you.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
36. Bet they look familiar. They're the ones you threw our way. Remember?
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 11:24 PM
Jun 2016

LexVegas

(6,107 posts)
3. Don't lose mad. Just lose. nt
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 10:59 PM
Jun 2016
 

PepperHarlan

(124 posts)
4. Bernie's already done that tonight
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 11:00 PM
Jun 2016

He's getting walloped! I bet Hillary wins Cali by 5 to 8 pts.

 

insta8er

(960 posts)
5. It's been a great day for the fracking industry!
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 11:00 PM
Jun 2016
 

laserhaas

(7,805 posts)
26. Yup
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 11:11 PM
Jun 2016

Oops there does another leak...I mean quake..I mean poisoned wells

AmBlue

(3,117 posts)
6. Precisely. nt
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 11:01 PM
Jun 2016
 

Trust Buster

(7,299 posts)
8. That was unnecessary
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 11:05 PM
Jun 2016
 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
10. Small. nt
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 11:06 PM
Jun 2016
 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
15. Real
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 11:07 PM
Jun 2016
 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
19. No, just whiny, petty, bitter, small-minded, and lacking in grace.
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 11:09 PM
Jun 2016

Oh, I forgot smugly sanctimonious.

Go wag your fingers somewhere else.

Barack_America

(28,876 posts)
11. Investing is their business, after all.
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 11:06 PM
Jun 2016

I'm sure this one will pay off well for them.

reformist2

(9,841 posts)
16. The consensus seems to be, let's pretend this is a victory for the people, and not big money!
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 11:08 PM
Jun 2016

Talk about delusional.

 

laserhaas

(7,805 posts)
28. They're getting what they wished for
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 11:12 PM
Jun 2016

brooklynite

(94,757 posts)
21. Seven days to get it out of your system
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 11:10 PM
Jun 2016

Tick, tick, tick

Response to brooklynite (Reply #21)

 

think

(11,641 posts)
30. How was the party. I heard it sold out.....
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 11:16 PM
Jun 2016

LibDemAlways

(15,139 posts)
31. High fives all around from
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 11:16 PM
Jun 2016

the bankers and frackers. We're screwed.

wendylaroux

(2,925 posts)
32. Oligarchy!!! Oligarchy!!! Oligarchy!!!
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 11:20 PM
Jun 2016

Oligarchy!!! Oligarchy!!!--can I get an amen!!!!! let's hear it for the 1%!!!

k8conant

(3,030 posts)
35. Plutocracy!!! Plutocracy!!! Amen
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 11:23 PM
Jun 2016
 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
37. Aww
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 11:25 PM
Jun 2016

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
40. Mixed with ...
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 11:27 PM
Jun 2016

...rotten apples and bitter herbs.

If you gnash your teeth when eating it ... maybe it tastes ok.

Luciferous

(6,086 posts)
38. lol
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 11:25 PM
Jun 2016
 

PepperHarlan

(124 posts)
39. Sad, petty OP
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 11:27 PM
Jun 2016

You're a poor representative of Bernie and his ideas.

 

mylye2222

(2,992 posts)
43. Having to choose betwenn GS... and America' s Hitler
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 11:42 PM
Jun 2016

Poor America...

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