So every time someone criticizes Hillary, it's sexism now. Good to know.

[adigal]

Bernie is sexist because he won't drop out yet. How, pray tell, is this sexism?? There is zero evidence of that. A Hillary supporter on the dailykos called Bernie a "sexist, racist pig who need to get the f out." Lovely. Good stab at unity.

I was called sexist tonight on the dailykos because I said I don't vote for someone because of their sex organs. I vote on someone for policy. Sexist.

When people scream "SEXIST!!!!" every time someone disagrees with or criticizes a woman, they weaken the meaning of the word and really discount real sexism that still exists today. I don't see how disliking a candidate who happens to be a woman is sexist, and I find it very offensive to be told that because I don't like the woman candidate, I am sexist. I didn't like Palin either? Why wasn't that called sexist here?

All of the cheering for the first woman candidate?? If the cheerleaders were really feminists, they wouldn't see HIllary's gender, just her policies. So to cheer for a candidate's gender means that that gender is the important thing. Sexist.

[LexVegas]

1. There it is. nt

[Sparkly]

27. Again.

[grasswire]

2. thank you.

Well said.

[PepperHarlan]

3. It's okay to turn it off once in awhile.

No need to be at a 10 all the time.

[joshcryer]

4. No, just when she's told she had to endure a different set of rules.

[TimPlo]

7. In 2008 she wrote a letter to SD after all voting was done.

She tried to flip them away from Obama even though he had the majority of pledged delegates. So people complaining about Sanders now are holding her to different rules because name calling Sanders when Clinton did same thing seems dishonest.

[joshcryer]

17. Of course, and that's Sanders right at well.

And I never said he shouldn't.

I'm talking about the disgusting calls for Sanders to stay in to the convention. It's purely bullshit desperation. Of course he won't do that. But yeah.

[adigal]

12. What different set of rules?? She did the same exact things Bernie is doing, except she added

racist dog whistling to her tune in 2008.

[joshcryer]

18. Any PUMA who called for her to contest the convention was racist.

[Scootaloo]

29. Well, they were also openly stating that they didn't want a black president, so...

[Scootaloo]

35. You still haven't answered the question

Exactly what "different rules" has she had to "endure"? Be specific. What rules were changed to impede Hilalry clinton.

[moriah]

42. Can't speak passionately without "yelling"...

.... can't laugh without "cackling", can't go to the bloody bathroom at a debate break, which had the mens room much closer, without Trump suggesting a 60+ year old woman was likely menstruating.

Not the rules about the nomination.

[adigal]

46. OK, I'll give you those examples, they are sexist. But we didn't suggest that here

That was Trump and the Republicans. I was referring to calling us sexist here.

[moriah]

47. Only the yelling and cackling comments here, true, and those rare.

No one is perfect, not even DUers, but no, Trump sewage is his own.

[Scootaloo]

53. And yet manages to not get held to any standards whatsoever on anything.

My favorite example is TaNehesi Coates' article raking Sanders over the coals for not supporting reparations, while supporting single payer health care. Okay, it was kind of nonsense, but whatever... What really stood out was that Mr. Coates explicitly exempted Hilalry Clinton from the same standard. She doesn't support reparations either... but that's okay.

Similarly, Clinton is not to be held responsible for her Iraq War Resolution vote. Oh, she was fooled by Dubya, who we all know to be clever as a damn fox, right? Oh, she was voting for diplomacy, not war, in a bill that explicitly called for military action. It's all okay, pay no mind. As Joy Behar put it, "let's put that aside." But, on the other hand, Sanders' vote on the Brady Bill in 1995, a bill that passed anyway, makes him singlehandedly and completely responsible for every child murdered at Sandy Hook and other school shootings.

Or how about how Clinton has been handed every office she seeks on a silver platter... Her senate seat, handed ot her by the Democratic party. Her Secretary of State position? Handed to her as part of a deal between campaigns. Her nomination in 2016? The party did everything it could to grease the skids for her, only her, always her. Of course all this means she's totally self-made, worked from the ground up. She's not privileged! She's not entitled! But you know, because Bernie Sanders moved from Brooklyn to Vermont, that makes him the supreme poster child of out-of-touch white privilege and proved he wants everything handed to him.

Clinton gets accused of yelling? So does Sanders. Of course when Sanders "yells" it's because he's a misogynist rapist trying to threaten a hapless, helpless woman into cowed silence! Also when he lifts his finger to get a moderator's attention, it's basically the same thing as a physical assault on Hillary Clinton.

Oh hey, speaking of. Remember how Hillary Clinton sticks her finger in people's people's faces, and threatens to only talk to white people, if black protesters don't treat her better? That's okay. Remember her racist-ass campaign against Obama in 2008? That's also okay. Remember her dismissal of the absolute devestation of countries full of brown people udner her tenure as SoS? That's okay too.Her husband screams that black protesters "support murderers and rapists!"Totally okay. But Sanders getting his hand slapped away by a black woman in Westlake proves that he's a nasty white supremacist that no one should ever trust! He said the word "ghetto" too, thus proving he's undeniably and totally racist to the core.

Speaking of racism. Were you aware that Bernie is a greedy, self-centered, sneaky, perfidious, underhanded, untrustworthy schemer? That he just natively dislikes black people? That his civil rights record is entirely forged from nothing? Oh yes, that underhanded skuldugger had been plotting - conspiring, if you will - to create the illusion that he supported civil rightsd, all leading up to the grand culmination of this campaign, but it's all a hoodwink! Don't trust him! Oh, and if it's not plain enough, he's also apparently a "crusty old Jew," his most ardent haters love throwing Yiddish insults at him, and he's been accused of plotting to sell the party out to Israel, and a very popular poster around here has stressed the point that he doesn't "keep the faith" and has openly called for hatred against Jews on the basis of Bernie's Jewishness. Yeah, that's a thing, and yeah, Skinner keeps this poster around, and yeah, she's super-popular in the HRC and AA groups.

Does Clinton have to put up with that shit? I mean, yeah, the bathroom thing was nonsense garbage. But has there been an actual campaign to totally destroy her image, reduce her to a heap of stinking racist stereotypes, twist her actual record into the exact opposite of what it stands as, all with any protest being labeled as "proof" of the smears lobbed at her, while explicitly and wholly whitewashing the whole of her opponent;'s record, free-riding him at every turn, changing rules - like, actual rules - just to benefit him, and otherwise not holding him to any standard while giving her all these massive hurdles to leap - and then changing the height of the hurdles after she clears them, demanding she jump them again, and again, and again until she fails?

'Cause that's what the DNC, the Clinton campaign, and her nasty fucking supporters have been doing since day one of this primary.

It's not just that Hillary clinton doesn't face different rules, it's that she doesn't face any rules. She's not held to any standards, she's not held to any expectations. Simply being Hillary clinton is deemed good enough, while anyone NOT Hillary Clinton has to navigate an ever changing but always hostile labyrinth of changing standards, shifting rules, secret handshakes, coded phrases, and, well, not-so-coded bigotry to even try to compete. There's been dumb shit tossed her way, but to pretend like she's the victim, like the "rules" disadvantage her is ludicrous and wholly ignorant. Any standard she fails to meet has so far just been hand-waved, just for her.

So we have a situation where Clinton has been granted an elevator ride to the top, and sneers that her opponents are only able to run up the stairs two steps at a time, proving how unfit they must be. But she's the one who's hte victim of a grand plot to disadvantage her with... with... Some ignorant yutzes on twitter sniping about her bathroom break for all of twenty minutes several months ago, it's like the world fucking fell apart under her.

So if someone wants to tell me about oh, what a poor, hapless, deeply disadvantaged victim of everything clinton is... they need ot check themselves, hard. Because that is about the stupidest goddamend thing I hear in this campaign.

[pinebox]

56. I don't see yelling or cackling as sexist but a personal attack

and yes there's a difference.

[joshcryer]

48. They are not actual rules and they are arbitrary.

Caucases as more Democratic than primaries, for instance. Primaries are rigged.

[TimPlo]

5. I wonder is if they think Clinton is a Racist

Because she tried to flip the SD for 4 days after the final vote was cast in 2008?

[One Black Sheep]

6. Yea, it is a failing tactic too, because it turns people off from voting for Hillary

including many women, they find that to be extremely insulting to their intelligence...that is what I have observed anyway, on social media.

[adigal]

16. Exactly!! Like we are too stupid to figure out that a woman might have different values than we do

So we'd better vote for her cause she's a woman.

[geek tragedy]

8. zzzzzzzz. nt

[adigal]

13. Thanks for your intelligent response!!!! So thoughtful and convincing!!! nt

[TimPlo]

20. Actually considering the source I think that was one his most thoughtful posts.

[Marr]

9. Trump is going to take that sexist label and hang it around Hillary's neck like a dead chicken.

By the time September rolls around, the word 'sexist' is going to be a punchline.

[BlindTiresias]

49. This

The democratic orthodoxy will, of course, walk right into the trap because while they may have a stranglehold on the party they aren't the smartest bunch around.

[Squinch]

10. So, every time we see sexism, it's not allowed to be talked about now. Good to know.

And bullshit. The fact that I am a feminist doesn't make me blind to gender. It's just stupid to say feminism should make me blind to gender.

I am cheering for the fact that the first woman ever has won a primary of a major party. To say it is sexist for me to do this is moronic. Get over yourself.

[adigal]

14. I love when people think saying rude stuff will change minds. :)

No, I won't get over myself because this election isn't about me. And it isn't about electing a woman. It's about electing someone who will put a stop to the destruction of the middle class, the abuse of the poor and the coasts about to drown. I don't care what sex organs that person has - and I don't care if she's the first woman. Elizabeth Warren, I would be setting off fireworks in celebration because she would do progressive things. Hillary? I don't care at all.

[Squinch]

22. I love it when people think saying, "I don't think that is important" will change minds.

Why should I care if you think the fact that she is a woman is important?

The fact is, it IS important. This is the first time in America that women see someone of their own gender winning a nomination.

This is also the nomination of the person who will ACTUALLY make progress on the issues you list as important to you. Rather than someone who would be just way too pure to actually engage in that dirty politics, who would have done nothing but harangue a hostile Congress, a Congress which would have no more respect for him than they ever did in the past. Which was none.

Now I am sure you will come back with the same old right wing arguments against her that you guys have been pushing for months, or years, so have at it. But remember this: no one cares that you don't care.

[adigal]

33. Right wing?? Really?? Amazing how much you can see logic.

Albright told us that we had to vote for her because she is a woman. Absurd. And it's funny that you Hillary supporters are calling people like me, people who are obviously WAY more progressive/liberal than you are right wingers because we don't vote for people based on gender and actually look at their policies.

Enough, Cognitive Dissonance!! If you didn't care, you wouldn't answer me.

[Squinch]

37. blablablablabla. See ya.

[adigal]

45. Thanks for the intelligent discourse!! You've convinced me!!! ;) nt

[JoePhilly]

11. Build a straw-man, knock him over, declare victory!!!!

Her victory is worth celebrating.

Get over yourself.

[adigal]

15. Perhaps to you. Not to me, and why should I get over myself? Should I vote how JoePhilly wants me to

It's sexist to vote for someone because of their gender. And it's insulting to say that anyone against her is sexist. Not a straw man at all. It goes on all of the time with Hillary supporters.

[JoePhilly]

21. No one is voting for Hillary BECAUSE of her gender ...

... but we can RECOGNIZE the historical importance of a WOMAN being selected as the nominee of a major political party.

And let's take a closer look at your silly post.

It's sexist to vote for someone because of their gender. And it's insulting to say that anyone against her is sexist.

And now, let's look at the HUGE straw-man you sent into battle with that quote ....

[adigal]

25. You really think that?? Albright told we silly women that we had to vote for her for that reason

and I am pretty sure a lot of women are voting for her because of gender.

[JoePhilly]

31. "Chicks, ya just can't trust them!!!!"

That's what you mean, right? So just fucking say it!!!

After all ... lots of white men are voting for Trump just cause he's a white guy, right????

You guys are hilarious.

[adigal]

34. Um, I'm a woman. I'm a 54 year old woman. I learned about feminist from the woman

who suffered for it. And yes, lots of white guys are voting for Trump because he is a white/orange guy. Just like lots of women will vote for Hillary because she is a woman. That's not feminism. Feminism is not seeing gender at all, and voting for the best candidate.

[JoePhilly]

39. "So every time someone criticizes Hillary, it's sexism now ... "

If you can not see the bullshit straw-man you built in your OP ... no one can help you see it.

[Scootaloo]

32. No no, she said you were going to hell if you didn't.

[adigal]

36. Oh, damn!! I had better sharpen up my pitchfork. :) nt

[anigbrowl]

19. Who gives a shit what one person at DailyKos wrote?

The butthurt is strong with this thread.

[AgingAmerican]

23. Cognitive dissonance

They cannot defend her with actual facts, so they default to this on every issue.

[adigal]

26. Yup. You got it. nt

[ismnotwasm]

24. No, not every time

But a lot of the time. Or do you think sexism doesn't happen?

[adigal]

28. Did I say that? No. nt

[cynatnite]

30. She is the presumptive nominee

Supporting her doesn't mean that women voted with their vaginas. The historical significance of tonight should not be ignored nor should she be pilloried for recognizing and acknowledging the history that was made tonight.

I'm cheering because my candidate of choice won. Also, I'm cheering because after a long line of male presidents, we will likely have our first woman president. I cheered just as loud when Obama won because of the history that was made then.

Most women aren't shallow beings that only support those of the same sex. The proof is in the women who support Bernie.

We should celebrate the history that was made tonight whether you like her or not.

[adigal]

38. Would you have celebrated if Sarah Palin was first female VP? History there, too.

Or is history only important when it's our side making it. Cause I would have cried if Palin won. I don't care what her sex is.

[cynatnite]

40. I'm sure I wouldn't have. n/t

[scscholar]

41. Is it sexist to say she rode her husband's coattails to the nomination?

Because, I've seen people post that here.

[Travis_0004]

43. I wouldn't think so.

Its the truth.

[adigal]

44. Well, has she? Because I think that if she wasn't First Lady, she wouldn't be where she is now

And I don't see that as sexist.

[leftofcool]

51. Oh boy! Why am I not surprised at this statement?

[SheenaR]

50. I'm a woman

And believe this to be 100% true.

The opportunities afforded to her by being married to a President have been multi fold.

Doesn't make me hate my gender.

[onecaliberal]

52. Crooked Hillary better ft ready for trump. He's going to fry her

[pampango]

54. All sexists oppose Hillary. Not everyone who opposes her is a sexist.

A Hillary supporter on the dailykos called Bernie a "sexist, racist pig who need to get the f out." Lovely. Good stab at unity.

Really! A poster on the internet said that? Should that be used to impugn all Hillary supporters? Are they all guilty of the sins of one? Isn't that precisely what you are arguing against?

All of the cheering for the first woman candidate?? If the cheerleaders were really feminists, they wouldn't see HIllary's gender, just her policies. So to cheer for a candidate's gender means that that gender is the important thing. Sexist.

That sounds so much like the conservative argument against affirmative action. Giving preferences to minorities and women is racist and sexist because it bases policies on race and gender.

Surely a feminist can cheer for the prospect of a female president though I am a feminist and prefer Bernie. Similarly a civil rights activist could have cheered for the prospect of an African American president. IMHO, policies should take priority but it is not wrong to cheer for women and minorities to succeed.

[VulgarPoet]

55. You sound surprised.

Almost like you believe Tumblr mentality hasn't sunk its claws into this election cycle.

[Darb]

57. That comment is amazingly similar to the way

the teabaggers whine about racism and Obama. Eerily actually. Like right out of the same playbook. Or by the same team even.

[Doctor_J]

58. Now?