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You have sown the wind. (Original Post) GoldenThunder Jun 2016 OP
Thank you for your kind words...on to November! brooklynite Jun 2016 #1
Right ! SCantiGOP Jun 2016 #140
LOL Metric System Jun 2016 #2
Eff this taught_me_patience Jun 2016 #3
I think this may be an irreligious version of end-times belief. Hortensis Jun 2016 #98
Yup it's the Clinton-DLC party. That Guy 888 Jun 2016 #107
Change takes time and it comes from the people...... kerry-is-my-prez Jun 2016 #196
She beat Bernie metroins Jun 2016 #4
With the FULL support of the DNC, lets not forget that either. That Guy 888 Jun 2016 #106
Every metric says otherwise metroins Jun 2016 #109
She handily defeated Sanders with her campaign manager running the election. That Guy 888 Jun 2016 #111
Keep thinking that metroins Jun 2016 #113
She had Sanders at +65 and steadily lost ground. That Guy 888 Jun 2016 #162
She won because of voters metroins Jun 2016 #163
She had the appearence of inevitability for the reasons I stated. That Guy 888 Jun 2016 #165
and then became inevitable. nt LaydeeBug Jun 2016 #186
Which still doesn't address the undemocratic behavior of the DNC. That Guy 888 Jun 2016 #187
Supers came out for Bernie before any votes were cast too LaydeeBug Jun 2016 #193
On a side note rock Jun 2016 #176
I've been on DU since the years of * That Guy 888 Jun 2016 #179
It was just a joke and not anthing metaphorical rock Jun 2016 #180
My apologies That Guy 888 Jun 2016 #181
No, no, not at all rock Jun 2016 #192
Yawn jzodda Jun 2016 #5
Lol PepperHarlan Jun 2016 #6
Sanders ran a great campaign. Agnosticsherbet Jun 2016 #7
... LexVegas Jun 2016 #8
If you think America likes hate filled, racist, sexist bastards than you're right. I don't think we uponit7771 Jun 2016 #9
you're forgetting bush 1 and 2... and the tea party MidwestTech Jun 2016 #105
Delusional BlindTiresias Jun 2016 #157
Thanks for being onboard for beating Trump! Sparkly Jun 2016 #10
I'm getting tired of trashing this nonsense. JoePhilly Jun 2016 #11
Gee, I guess we'll have to live with some rando on the Intertubes being all emo about this nt geek tragedy Jun 2016 #12
Oh, please . . . MousePlayingDaffodil Jun 2016 #13
Oh, shut up. Squinch Jun 2016 #14
+1 Bobbie Jo Jun 2016 #112
Is that anything like "Hell Week"? ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #129
lol Bobbie Jo Jun 2016 #134
Squinch, you know good and well that wasn't NEARLY melodramatic enough for this overheated OP Number23 Jun 2016 #177
Crap, 23! My ears are SO bewildered by these mopes! Squinch Jun 2016 #191
My GAWD, you would think we just nominated CAG Jun 2016 #15
More like Richard Nixon. John Poet Jun 2016 #44
Ridiculous, simply ridiculous, keep drinking the CAG Jun 2016 #46
Ya FBI investigations are RW conspiracies aren't they? pinebox Jun 2016 #82
Actually, they are. okasha Jun 2016 #156
It was requested by a democrat. 840high Jun 2016 #174
Ah, yes, the usual lazy-assed "VWRC" response. Lizzie Poppet Jun 2016 #100
VWRC? Wow. I had never heard of that until the google ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #133
Except that's not what that (very well known) acronym actually stands for. Lizzie Poppet Jun 2016 #137
Actually, it was Hillary quoting an FBI report. And you transposed the R and W (s/b VRWC). ieoeja Jun 2016 #145
Pesky Facts. Name-calling is SO much easier. nolabear Jun 2016 #169
... warrprayer Jun 2016 #54
Cool. So she'll easily win two terms then. ashtonelijah Jun 2016 #61
I totally agree with you. These people all seem to completely ignore where she is on issues. pdsimdars Jun 2016 #87
I believe Dick Nixon had better "favorability" and "Trustworthy" poll numbers... bvar22 Jun 2016 #116
More like Kissinger v2.0 demwing Jun 2016 #117
Get real upaloopa Jun 2016 #16
LOL stevil Jun 2016 #17
Truth is often dramatic demwing Jun 2016 #120
I disagree on both counts. apcalc Jun 2016 #161
In the End-The Math Wasn't Ever Very Close Stallion Jun 2016 #18
May the "Bluebird of Happiness" avoid pooping on your windshield. oasis Jun 2016 #19
LOL! Spazito Jun 2016 #122
Jeebus! Haveadream Jun 2016 #20
A bit melodramatic. I have urged my fellow Hillary supporters to refrain from this kind of vitriol Trust Buster Jun 2016 #21
Lol BlindTiresias Jun 2016 #158
I received as good as I dished out but that was when the nomination was being contested. Trust Buster Jun 2016 #182
I'm an atheist and Hillary will beat Trump. n/t cynatnite Jun 2016 #22
This Bernie supporting atheist agrees with you. Duppers Jun 2016 #59
the law suits, investigations, and implementation of the GOP agenda. pdsimdars Jun 2016 #88
Lighten up, Francis. nt msanthrope Jun 2016 #23
Have fun blaming me for your loss in November. GoldenThunder Jun 2016 #24
Cool story, bro sweetloukillbot Jun 2016 #33
Does that last statement include the 15 million CAG Jun 2016 #48
You're encouraging yourself to have fun blaming yourself? OilemFirchen Jun 2016 #57
I suspect that one is just one of the many troll that will be stopping by ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #136
Yup. OilemFirchen Jun 2016 #146
Grow up GCP Jun 2016 #65
"...it takes years and years to turn politics around." Hortensis Jun 2016 #91
I'd love to see the research on that ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #135
Very interesting. I would too. I searched back then Hortensis Jun 2016 #141
"Politics is like piloting an oil tanker" demwing Jun 2016 #121
Please go check yourself into the nearest mental hospital, and do it quick. RBInMaine Jun 2016 #71
McClellan lolz obamanut2012 Jun 2016 #171
I like the contrast between this sort of insipid claptrap Tarc Jun 2016 #25
Anonymous social media tend to do that. :) Hortensis Jun 2016 #93
Very poetic. I hope it helps you to heal. nt eastwestdem Jun 2016 #26
. RandySF Jun 2016 #27
Oh, the melodrama! alcibiades_mystery Jun 2016 #28
It's truly underwhelming... COLGATE4 Jun 2016 #173
Oh Good Gawd Damn Grief! Drama much? leftofcool Jun 2016 #29
Hillary will work with Bernie tandot Jun 2016 #30
I see your problem..... Fresh_Start Jun 2016 #31
good response... handmade34 Jun 2016 #153
I doubt, I personnally added 3,000,000 more votes itsrobert Jun 2016 #32
Let's look at the results in November. GoldenThunder Jun 2016 #34
I have a cat named Mocha, and I like pancakes n/t Godhumor Jun 2016 #37
... PepperHarlan Jun 2016 #39
lol Renew Deal Jun 2016 #166
Valium. okasha Jun 2016 #40
How many generations do you suspect you have left? OilemFirchen Jun 2016 #58
Hahahahaha GCP Jun 2016 #66
Yes, the mythical hacked voting machines, that's why Bernie lost. Lord Magus Jun 2016 #77
This message was self-deleted by its author hopemountain Jun 2016 #184
"You the warmongers, you the banksters, you the globalists, you the elites. You will all BEGOPNE" jack_krass Jun 2016 #80
That was awesome! Gidney N Cloyd Jun 2016 #90
Interesting! What's your strategy? Brickbat Jun 2016 #101
Does your rage feel like laughter? Because that's what I'm feeling right now WhollyHeretic Jun 2016 #110
ROFLMAO snooper2 Jun 2016 #130
Dude, you are now posting threats here, and it is NOT OKAY. blue neen Jun 2016 #151
Neptune goes retrograde this week. MelungeonWoman Jun 2016 #164
BEGOPNE? Should I be frightened, or something? MADem Jun 2016 #185
Are we Begopne yet? Squinch Jun 2016 #195
This message was self-deleted by its author Squinch Jun 2016 #194
Bye Felicia n/t lancer78 Jun 2016 #35
#appropriate redStateBlueHeart Jun 2016 #123
Your concern is noted workinclasszero Jun 2016 #36
Yellow button: check. mac56 Jun 2016 #42
Some day you can tell your grandkids workinclasszero Jun 2016 #50
Someday you can tell your grandkids mac56 Jun 2016 #53
"Last true?" Maybe try for a little perspective? Hortensis Jun 2016 #95
I'm impressed. You stole that grandpa line almost verbatim from Reagan's vinyl LP... Hekate Jun 2016 #188
How do you "save America from a fascist" John Poet Jun 2016 #47
Get it all out workinclasszero Jun 2016 #52
Post removed Post removed Jun 2016 #56
Lol. Seems he took your suggestion. Hortensis Jun 2016 #96
Day-um, that was only hidden 4-3. Sheesh, it's gonna be a long week. nt. MH1 Jun 2016 #147
And it actually started with the warning Hortensis Jun 2016 #148
It's sad that vote stealing is no problems for her supporter just wait until the people onecaliberal Jun 2016 #38
Please, enough of the "vote stealing" insanity. Seriously. Go see a psychiatrist. It's nuts. RBInMaine Jun 2016 #69
Maybe you can tell it to a judge? merrily Jun 2016 #83
There was no vote stealing. Lord Magus Jun 2016 #78
You all are excellent representatives of the Clinton movement. mac56 Jun 2016 #41
The butthurt is strong in this one GCP Jun 2016 #67
Oh the pain pressbox69 Jun 2016 #43
You have discounted Latinos, African Americans and women and their votes. stevenleser Jun 2016 #45
Oh, but you see, all of those people aren't "true" CAG Jun 2016 #51
Good post. If there was one thing I could get Hortensis Jun 2016 #97
And LGBT's. okasha Jun 2016 #160
Lol Dem2 Jun 2016 #49
Rec. I feel the same way, but could never expess it as eloquently as you have.. jack_krass Jun 2016 #55
Spouting insanity is never "eloquent." RBInMaine Jun 2016 #70
BWAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!! MohRokTah Jun 2016 #60
If you had demonstrated the ability to predict the future, this would worry me. N.T. Donald Ian Rankin Jun 2016 #62
They aren't worth half a keystroke, Golden Thunder. senz Jun 2016 #63
Post removed Post removed Jun 2016 #72
Dude wtf is with you pinebox Jun 2016 #85
They feel as if some capitulation is needed nolabels Jun 2016 #124
Yeah perhaps that is best pinebox Jun 2016 #125
And your post smells like broken wind realmirage Jun 2016 #64
Post removed Post removed Jun 2016 #68
4x you've done this now. Seriously, knock it off pinebox Jun 2016 #86
"You have your nominee. And she won't beat Trump." And IF she does beat Trump? pampango Jun 2016 #73
Then buy stock in military suppliers. Lizzie Poppet Jun 2016 #102
Donald has pledged to build up our 'weak' military. Military suppliers hear him quite well. n/t pampango Jun 2016 #115
you still here? bigtree Jun 2016 #74
Salty much? wildeyed Jun 2016 #75
She will win in November and she will be a great president. Thinkingabout Jun 2016 #76
Luke 23:34 Jack Bone Jun 2016 #79
The wayward wind pinebox Jun 2016 #81
^^^^^^^^^^^ Amen! ^^^^^^^^^^^ pdsimdars Jun 2016 #89
That's how it looks to me, too. nt vintx Jun 2016 #132
Don't waste electrons on the supplicants. VulgarPoet Jun 2016 #84
"Military men are just dumb, stupid animals to be used as pawns in foreign policy.”-Henry Kissinger ILikeTurtles2 Jun 2016 #92
Oh, wow. VulgarPoet Jun 2016 #114
The wind has been sown with cows and the reaping whirlwind of cows will destroy Trump. betsuni Jun 2016 #94
Ok I had NO desire whatsoever to kick this thread but that is one of the funniest Maru Kitteh Jun 2016 #152
. Brickbat Jun 2016 #99
. RandySF Jun 2016 #103
You have broken a mighty wind BeyondGeography Jun 2016 #104
The beauty of performance art during the final week of GDP is a sight to behold Blue_Adept Jun 2016 #108
Oh so that's what it is. I'd forgotten all about the door buzzard. Now that I see it in that light Hekate Jun 2016 #190
Quelle dramatique redStateBlueHeart Jun 2016 #118
Oh the drama. JoePhilly Jun 2016 #119
Or, an example of the trolling that we can expect ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #138
Very true. JoePhilly Jun 2016 #139
You have a flair for the dramatic, I see. NaturalHigh Jun 2016 #126
in the general,she has not a prayer.you think people wendylaroux Jun 2016 #127
Are you taking me up on my bet? NaturalHigh Jun 2016 #128
I guess you won't be sticking around DU after the 16th? leftofcool Jun 2016 #142
May God forgive you for using her as a political prop. emulatorloo Jun 2016 #131
Bernie would never have won a general not in a million years Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #143
I suspect that even one as corrupt as Hillary could beat Trump. n/t Herman4747 Jun 2016 #144
"destroying my party": *WE* are the party. VOX Jun 2016 #149
God, the 16th can't come soon enough. nolabear Jun 2016 #150
LMAO! zappaman Jun 2016 #154
Drama and rational argument are not often found together. eom yawnmaster Jun 2016 #155
Go reap yourself. Scurrilous Jun 2016 #159
hahahahahahahahahaha obamanut2012 Jun 2016 #167
My hovercraft is full of eels. Starry Messenger Jun 2016 #168
... nolabear Jun 2016 #172
Ooh a threat!!! rjsquirrel Jun 2016 #170
I for one welcome my future Chelsea overlord elehhhhna Jun 2016 #175
Really, it's not that bad. grahamhgreen Jun 2016 #178
Oh my! pressbox69 Jun 2016 #183
Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa Florencenj2point0 Jun 2016 #189

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
98. I think this may be an irreligious version of end-times belief.
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 09:01 AM
Jun 2016

No matter how misguided, the anxiety sounds genuine.

I live in the Bible Belt, where people see signs that we are in End Times everywhere, but they at least believe they will be Saved. Political "end-timers" don't have that comfort.

Psychologists say that a pattern of people with extremist political traits is to believe we are (recurrently obviously) on the brink of disaster that only their candidate or movement can save us from. We're watching this fear play out.

metroins

(2,550 posts)
4. She beat Bernie
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 11:35 PM
Jun 2016

She'll beat Trump.

Just remember, she beat Bernie. Spin it anyway you want, but she still beat Bernie.

 

That Guy 888

(1,214 posts)
106. With the FULL support of the DNC, lets not forget that either.
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 09:12 AM
Jun 2016

This election was not fair or impartial. DWS won't run the general election, so unfortunately it's drumpf's to lose.

metroins

(2,550 posts)
109. Every metric says otherwise
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 09:16 AM
Jun 2016

Hillary has everything going for her against Trump.

She handily defeated Bernie, there is no rational reasoning to think Bernie would be a better candidate.

 

That Guy 888

(1,214 posts)
111. She handily defeated Sanders with her campaign manager running the election.
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 09:20 AM
Jun 2016
there is no rational reasoning to think Bernie would be a better candidate.


Sure their is. When she attacks drumpf almost all of her attacks could be said about her as well.

metroins

(2,550 posts)
113. Keep thinking that
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 09:24 AM
Jun 2016

I didn't know Hillary insults judges because their parents are Mexican.

The voters chose Hillary Clinton to be our nominee and presidential contender. She defeated Sanders, she'll defeat Trump.

I guess the biggest thing giving me confidence is her campaign organization. She had Sanders beat back in March all due to strategy.

 

That Guy 888

(1,214 posts)
162. She had Sanders at +65 and steadily lost ground.
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 06:54 PM
Jun 2016

She won because of her backroom negotiations with the supers, name recognition, largely favorable press and having her former campaign head run the election all of which don't help her so much in the general.

As far as drumpf goes I'm talking about attacks on his credibility, flipping on issues, things like that. I don't pay much attention to the Clinton anti-drumpf campaign, but I did see a few pot-calling-the-kettle-black attacks that could be easily turned back on her.

metroins

(2,550 posts)
163. She won because of voters
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 06:58 PM
Jun 2016

She and Trump are two different people. You can point to SCOTUS if you're looking for a major difference.

All races tighten up, she will be neck and neck with Trump in October. A ham sandwich and a Volkswagen would be neck and neck if they were running.

Bernie couldn't win the Democratic nomination, Hillary did. The voters chose.

 

That Guy 888

(1,214 posts)
165. She had the appearence of inevitability for the reasons I stated.
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 07:12 PM
Jun 2016

Which I notice you don't address.

 

That Guy 888

(1,214 posts)
187. Which still doesn't address the undemocratic behavior of the DNC.
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 05:56 AM
Jun 2016

Which started not only before any votes were cast, but before anyone other than Clinton was in the race.

 

That Guy 888

(1,214 posts)
179. I've been on DU since the years of *
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 11:00 PM
Jun 2016

My old profile name died with my old pc.


Are you that guy with the really, really large piano?


Nope, nothing from upright to grand.

If you mean metaphorically, it's still no. It's not like I'm asking you to promote fracking here and around the world, a new cold war with Russia, TPP and H1-B visa increases, blind loyalty to conservatives in Israel, more war in the Middle East, or a loss of freedom here in the US, while proclaiming it liberal/progressive.

rock

(13,218 posts)
180. It was just a joke and not anthing metaphorical
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 11:20 PM
Jun 2016

Made to lighten the mood which seemed to be a little contentious. Your screen name is That Guy plus 888, so I started by saying on a side note which was supposed to be a hint. Then I said are you "that guy" with the large piano (one that had a lot more notes than the normal 88), Big joke, ha ha. OK I enjoyed it even if the joke was on me and nobody got it.

 

That Guy 888

(1,214 posts)
181. My apologies
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 11:28 PM
Jun 2016

I know nothing about pianos, and thought it was a reference to "that guy that wants you to help him move".

Sorry again to be so hostile on a day that your candidate deserves congratulations.

rock

(13,218 posts)
192. No, no, not at all
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 09:22 AM
Jun 2016

It's entirely my odd sense of humor. My wife tells me never to make jokes, no one will get them.

uponit7771

(90,329 posts)
9. If you think America likes hate filled, racist, sexist bastards than you're right. I don't think we
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 11:36 PM
Jun 2016

... like those type of people any longer... RayGun was the last... we aint goin back

MidwestTech

(170 posts)
105. you're forgetting bush 1 and 2... and the tea party
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 09:10 AM
Jun 2016

and the fact that they took over congress
and most state legislatures
and local offices
and...

but sure, no one wants to vote for a racist egomaniac... i mean, it's like the tea party has traction or something!

Number23

(24,544 posts)
177. Squinch, you know good and well that wasn't NEARLY melodramatic enough for this overheated OP
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 10:40 PM
Jun 2016

You need something equally as flowery and ridiculous as the OP.

Something like: "silence thy foul mouth!" or "cease pouring thine poisoned words in my bewildered ears!"

 

John Poet

(2,510 posts)
44. More like Richard Nixon.
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 12:23 AM
Jun 2016

He was kinda liberal... on a few things (by today's standards)...

when he wasn't busy being a criminal,
or putting Kissinger in charge of the State Department...

Hillary is straight out of Dick's mold.

okasha

(11,573 posts)
156. Actually, they are.
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 06:25 PM
Jun 2016

The investigation was requested by Trey Gowdy's
"Destroy Hillary'"committee.

 

Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)
137. Except that's not what that (very well known) acronym actually stands for.
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 03:05 PM
Jun 2016

It's "Vast Right Wing Conspiracy," which I have no doubt 99.9%+ of all DU'ers know already...since it's an actual Princess Weathervane quote.

 

ieoeja

(9,748 posts)
145. Actually, it was Hillary quoting an FBI report. And you transposed the R and W (s/b VRWC).
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 04:46 PM
Jun 2016

That exact phrase appears verbatim in a report by the FBI. The FBI observed that the propaganda attack on Bill Clinton bore the earmarks of Soviet Cold War anti-American propaganda. So they decided to investigate it to see if Russia was on the attack.

The investigation ended with their conclusion that the propaganda was a domestic "vast rightwing conspiracy" and thereby outside the FBI's concern.

I don't know if the report gave a reason for its similarity to Soviet propaganda. But it is no secret that the Arkansas Project employed a lot of former CIA propaganda warriors.


A lot of people have tried painting Hillary as "paranoid" over this statement. But she did not coin it. The FBI did.


bvar22

(39,909 posts)
116. I believe Dick Nixon had better "favorability" and "Trustworthy" poll numbers...
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 02:01 PM
Jun 2016

...than Hillary.

 

Trust Buster

(7,299 posts)
21. A bit melodramatic. I have urged my fellow Hillary supporters to refrain from this kind of vitriol
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 11:46 PM
Jun 2016

in lieu of her victory. I understand your disappointment but let's try to cool down a bit.

 

Trust Buster

(7,299 posts)
182. I received as good as I dished out but that was when the nomination was being contested.
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 12:18 AM
Jun 2016

The nomination is no longer being contested. Understand the difference now ?

Duppers

(28,117 posts)
59. This Bernie supporting atheist agrees with you.
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 03:16 AM
Jun 2016

The Dump will be beaten. When Newt criticized him for being too racist, you know he has trouble.

So, we'll have an R-lite in office with all that entails.



GoldenThunder

(300 posts)
24. Have fun blaming me for your loss in November.
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 11:48 PM
Jun 2016

She won't beat Trump. I don't care how many votes she wins in Cali. She's not getting independents. She's not getting young voters. And she has the highest negatives of any Democrat since McClellan.

Thank you all for crating the brand new progressive party. We'll enjoy taking every seat in congress you own in 2018. Enjoy that box of champagne from the Koch brothers, too.

You will never be Democrats. NEVER.

CAG

(1,820 posts)
48. Does that last statement include the 15 million
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 12:27 AM
Jun 2016

Democrats that voted for Hillary Clinton? None of them are Democrats? Gimme a break...

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
136. I suspect that one is just one of the many troll that will be stopping by ...
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 03:02 PM
Jun 2016

now that Democrats and the Left will be coalescing around a single candidate.

OilemFirchen

(7,143 posts)
146. Yup.
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 05:04 PM
Jun 2016

Not much of a conversationalist... perhaps a bit too argumentative... but at least he's keeping it within the family.

GCP

(8,166 posts)
65. Grow up
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 04:08 AM
Jun 2016

I've been on DU since 2001 and seen my candidate get beaten just like you. I didn't throw my toys out of the pram and stay at home instead of voting, I worked for liberals and progressives.
Politics is like piloting an oil tanker, it takes miles and miles to turn the damn thing, like it takes years and years to turn politics around.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
91. "...it takes years and years to turn politics around."
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 08:42 AM
Jun 2016

Unwillingness to believe that is one of the things Bernie appealed to, not by accident--he shares it. But it should be pointed out more often.

When Congress passed the ACA, someone working in some political science fiend told me the typical historic lag between defeat and passage of important legislative change was just about the 17 or so years between Hillary's attempt and passage.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
135. I'd love to see the research on that ...
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 03:00 PM
Jun 2016

though 17 years sounds about right. We went from the Civil Rights Act (coverage limited to race, color, sex and religion) to Near universal coverage (except sexual orientation) in a similar length of time, and saw the beginnings of anti-Heterosexist, 17 years from then.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
141. Very interesting. I would too. I searched back then
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 03:25 PM
Jun 2016

but didn't plug in the right terms. I believed and believe him because of who he was, but also because I once studied many fascinating patterns of time and events in my economics courses.

 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
121. "Politics is like piloting an oil tanker"
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 02:09 PM
Jun 2016

And the Dems are about to nominate the captain of the Exxon Valdez. Have fun.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
93. Anonymous social media tend to do that. :)
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 08:46 AM
Jun 2016

But don't forget underlying personality, much of which is hard wired by genetics. The OP suggests a great deal of genuine anxiety.

tandot

(6,671 posts)
30. Hillary will work with Bernie
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 11:52 PM
Jun 2016

Because beating Trump is more important than anything else.

I hope you'll change your mind and help us

Fresh_Start

(11,330 posts)
31. I see your problem.....
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 11:52 PM
Jun 2016

you think its YOUR party.
I turns out it ALL OF OURS party...including you.
And you need to learn to compromise...like the rest of us have.

itsrobert

(14,157 posts)
32. I doubt, I personnally added 3,000,000 more votes
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 11:58 PM
Jun 2016

by myself.

But thanks for giving me credit. i'll put it on my resume.

GoldenThunder

(300 posts)
34. Let's look at the results in November.
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 12:01 AM
Jun 2016

When all of the hacked voting machine flip the vote AWAY from Hillary.

You're not the only ones who are good at this game. In fact, you're nowhere near ever being the best at it.

You've destroyed a political organization that I dedicated two generations of my life to. Trust me, the total amount of anger you feel will never match the seething rage I have in my hart right now. Some will sulk. Many will leave (if they haven't left already). But I am here. And you will feel my rage. Even after Skinner pulls the plug on me. You will continue to feel my rage. I became an official party apparatchik because of Bernie. Don't look now, but I'm coming up fast. You will never be rid of me. When I am finished. You the warmongers, you the banksters, you the globalists, you the elites. You will all BEGOPNE!!!

OilemFirchen

(7,143 posts)
58. How many generations do you suspect you have left?
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 12:45 AM
Jun 2016

And who's winning this argument, anyway? Are you two keeping score?

Lord Magus

(1,999 posts)
77. Yes, the mythical hacked voting machines, that's why Bernie lost.
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 07:58 AM
Jun 2016

It's got nothing to do with him just getting a lot fewer votes.

Response to Lord Magus (Reply #77)

 

jack_krass

(1,009 posts)
80. "You the warmongers, you the banksters, you the globalists, you the elites. You will all BEGOPNE"
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 08:10 AM
Jun 2016

I LOVE it!!!!! Go man go(or woman!) . Fuck the detactors!!!!!

blue neen

(12,319 posts)
151. Dude, you are now posting threats here, and it is NOT OKAY.
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 06:09 PM
Jun 2016

If you are this angry, then just walk away for awhile, because what you are posting sounds very creepy.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
185. BEGOPNE? Should I be frightened, or something?
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 04:58 AM
Jun 2016

I think a bit of perspective will help you see your way through this rough spot.

I'm not going to feel your rage, from your "hart" or anywhere else. I am, right now, feeling your upset and disappointment.

This too will pass. Bernie will pivot and support the nominee. I know you don't believe this right now, but he will. It may take him a bit, because he's "mad" too, but he'll get over it.

Hillary Clinton will be a superb POTUS--you'll see.

Response to GoldenThunder (Reply #34)

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
36. Your concern is noted
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 12:06 AM
Jun 2016

Now GTF out of the way.

Democrats are going to save America from a fascist while you sit on your hands and weep.

mac56

(17,566 posts)
42. Yellow button: check.
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 12:20 AM
Jun 2016

I'll sleep safer knowing that the future of the Republic is in your capable hands.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
50. Some day you can tell your grandkids
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 12:28 AM
Jun 2016

That when a demagogue and his neo nazi party tried to take over America, you sat on your ass and did nothing.

Be proud.

mac56

(17,566 posts)
53. Someday you can tell your grandkids
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 12:30 AM
Jun 2016

that you lambasted and shamed the followers of the last true Democrat to run for the Presidency.

"Grandpa, tell us about the days when people actually voted for the President? Before all the jobs went to the Pacific Rim?"

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
95. "Last true?" Maybe try for a little perspective?
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 08:54 AM
Jun 2016

Every 2 years we have the opportunity for peaceful revolution, to keep or toss our representatives as we choose. Every four years more will Democrats step up and offer themselves to us, some of whom most of us will not have heard of before.

Hekate

(90,623 posts)
188. I'm impressed. You stole that grandpa line almost verbatim from Reagan's vinyl LP...
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 06:36 AM
Jun 2016

...against the commies.

Response to workinclasszero (Reply #52)

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
96. Lol. Seems he took your suggestion.
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 08:57 AM
Jun 2016

Politics is hard enough on most of us, but obviously particularly hard on some.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
148. And it actually started with the warning
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 05:27 PM
Jun 2016

from Skinner a couple of weeks ago. And indulging in free expression of anger and resentment tends to increase it, especially in crowds. Oh, well. We're all safe behind our screens.

onecaliberal

(32,812 posts)
38. It's sad that vote stealing is no problems for her supporter just wait until the people
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 12:15 AM
Jun 2016

Who invented it use it on her. They'll be crying about it. Hell I don't even think they need to steal it to beat her.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
83. Maybe you can tell it to a judge?
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 08:18 AM
Jun 2016
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1280210073

Also, you should really consider changing to a different rude comment. You've about worn out this one. Besides, fixating on insanity and mental institutions is probably not healthy.

mac56

(17,566 posts)
41. You all are excellent representatives of the Clinton movement.
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 12:18 AM
Jun 2016

I'm proud of each and every one of you. You encapsulate the essence of Madame Secretary, the world's premier diplomat.

Don't ever change.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
45. You have discounted Latinos, African Americans and women and their votes.
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 12:24 AM
Jun 2016

Trump is in big trouble with all three demographics and that is much more than is needed to be fatal.

CAG

(1,820 posts)
51. Oh, but you see, all of those people aren't "true"
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 12:29 AM
Jun 2016

Democrats by some Bernie supporter standards...

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
97. Good post. If there was one thing I could get
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 08:59 AM
Jun 2016

across to those currently in despair it would be that, in this era anyway, as long as it is a Democrat who wins, we are doing okay.

okasha

(11,573 posts)
160. And LGBT's.
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 06:40 PM
Jun 2016

And people with disabilities and their families.

Hell, the Republicans themselves are trying to find some way right now to abandon him on a desert island.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
63. They aren't worth half a keystroke, Golden Thunder.
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 03:55 AM
Jun 2016

If it seems like there's something wrong, there is. They'll be doing the same thing for the rest of their lives.

Leave them behind.

Response to senz (Reply #63)

 

pinebox

(5,761 posts)
85. Dude wtf is with you
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 08:19 AM
Jun 2016

That's 3x now telling people to seek mental help. Knock it off. Not cool. No call for that crap.

nolabels

(13,133 posts)
124. They feel as if some capitulation is needed
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 02:19 PM
Jun 2016

My remedy is going to be to back off and let them work out their own problems.

My plan is to come back from time to time, but mostly read,

and then just wait for the reality to set in sometime next February

Response to GoldenThunder (Original post)

pampango

(24,692 posts)
73. "You have your nominee. And she won't beat Trump." And IF she does beat Trump?
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 07:07 AM
Jun 2016

(Which seems pretty likely.) Will she still have "destroyed my party"?

If so then whether Hillary wins or loses is not really the issue, is it? She 'destroys' the party either way.

 

Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)
102. Then buy stock in military suppliers.
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 09:07 AM
Jun 2016

And yes, the Third Way takeover has destroyed the party, at least for progressives.

wildeyed

(11,243 posts)
75. Salty much?
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 07:45 AM
Jun 2016

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It's democracy. Your guy lost. Next time pick a candidate who knows how to run a better campaign. #math

 

pinebox

(5,761 posts)
81. The wayward wind
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 08:15 AM
Jun 2016

is a western wind..........

Despite all of Hillary's dents, dings and fracture in her armor, some Dems (and only Dems) think she is the best candidate.
You are right, Dems just committed political suicide by just about nominating someone the majority of America not only hates but sees as a sell out, corrupt, paid for, propped up by big money puppet.

Congrats Dems for basically nominating a candidate who is under an FBI investigation. That's a first too.

Draw your swords and prepare for president Trump. He's going to crush her. Dems just committed harikari.

 

pdsimdars

(6,007 posts)
89. ^^^^^^^^^^^ Amen! ^^^^^^^^^^^
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 08:36 AM
Jun 2016

they aren't thinking, just reacting in some kind of group think, lemming thing.

VulgarPoet

(2,872 posts)
84. Don't waste electrons on the supplicants.
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 08:18 AM
Jun 2016

This is all kabuki theater... Training you to keep your eye on the open palm, while moving everything in the closed fist. There's no reason for surprise anymore, they will cheat, connive, lambast, shame, and use everything in their toolbox to bring forth the Neo-Colonial American Century. Better get your kids out of the military, because those types only see us as pawns to shed blood in foreign lands...

betsuni

(25,447 posts)
94. The wind has been sown with cows and the reaping whirlwind of cows will destroy Trump.
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 08:49 AM
Jun 2016

The party is not destroyed, God told me. We got cows.

Maru Kitteh

(28,333 posts)
152. Ok I had NO desire whatsoever to kick this thread but that is one of the funniest
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 06:09 PM
Jun 2016

goddamn posts I have read on DU in a LONG TIME.

Hekate

(90,623 posts)
190. Oh so that's what it is. I'd forgotten all about the door buzzard. Now that I see it in that light
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 06:41 AM
Jun 2016

...I can relax and enjoy the nuttiness.

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
119. Oh the drama.
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 02:06 PM
Jun 2016

Another self-proclaimed high priest of liberalism looking down from their pulpit passing judgement on all the sinners destined for hell.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
138. Or, an example of the trolling that we can expect ...
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 03:07 PM
Jun 2016

now that Democrats and the Left will be coalescing around a single candidate.

wendylaroux

(2,925 posts)
127. in the general,she has not a prayer.you think people
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 02:28 PM
Jun 2016

didn't like her or trust her before .lol! oh my,she will be beat like a rented mule.

emulatorloo

(44,106 posts)
131. May God forgive you for using her as a political prop.
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 02:36 PM
Jun 2016

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Your Moses imitation isn't very good either.

(P.S. Just kidding you about "God's forgiveness." Doubt God cares about hyperbolic nonsense posted on DU. Or we all would have struck dead years ago.)

Demsrule86

(68,539 posts)
143. Bernie would never have won a general not in a million years
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 04:17 PM
Jun 2016

Way too much stuff...he would be swiftboated out of the race...Being a socialist...and yes I know what he says, but the GOP would point out he hung with hard cores socialist over and over...he would never win Ohio, Florida or even Pennsylvania.

VOX

(22,976 posts)
149. "destroying my party": *WE* are the party.
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 05:54 PM
Jun 2016

Not just you, it's we. And doing what's right for the greater good means NOT turning the keys over to a psychotic fascist like Trump.

Your help in defeating this clear and present danger would be deeply appreciated.

 

rjsquirrel

(4,762 posts)
170. Ooh a threat!!!
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 07:26 PM
Jun 2016

you tried to warn us poor stupid voters and yet you lost.

If only we could just have a coronation for the guy who lost right?


Lol.

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