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TomCADem

(17,387 posts)
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 12:11 AM Jun 2016

Salon - "Why can’t Sanders admit defeat? He’s looking more and more foolish"

Even though she was in a stronger position back in 2008, Hillary ultimately conceded and congratulated Barack Obama. But for Hillary, she has to meet a much higher threshold. Well, I guess this happens often enough in the workplace, so why not politics?

http://www.salon.com/2016/06/06/why_cant_sanders_admit_defeat_hes_looking_more_and_more_foolish_as_he_denies_hillarys_victory/

In colloquial terms, a woman has to be twice as good to be taken half as seriously. Which is why Sanders’sbehavior in recent weeks is so troubling. Clinton has won, fair and square. She has more votes. She has more pledged delegates. She has more superdelegates. She has more voters. Even if you tweaked the rules, she is the winner. Every “what if” scenario — what if we got rid of the superdelegates? what if the Democrats used Republican rules? what if there were more open primaries? — Clinton still wins. There is no rational reason for Sanders and his supporters to act like he is somehow more deserving of this than Clinton.

And yet, Sanders is carrying on as if it’s obvious that he deserves to win, and just a little more pressure will cause everyone to finally see it and give him what he clearly believes is his due. Thus all the chatter about how the system is “rigged.”

Whatever is in his heart, Sanders is coasting on male privilege right now, namely the male privilege of being assumed to be more competent and more worthy than a female competitor, even if she has demonstrated her value by all objective measures.

This problem isn’t unique to Sanders. On the contrary, it’s common as dirt. When a woman or person of color has shown great success, people in the dominant group often argue that they can’t have done this on their own, but had to have gotten there by cheating. You see that every time conservatives gripe about “affirmative action,” assuming that people of color who get into college somehow are edging out more deserving white people by doing so. You see it with Donald Trump arguing that Clinton is only winning by playing the “woman card,” a blatant expression of the belief that women can only win by cheating.
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Salon - "Why can’t Sanders admit defeat? He’s looking more and more foolish" (Original Post) TomCADem Jun 2016 OP
We can give this kind of piece a rest for a while. geek tragedy Jun 2016 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author artislife Jun 2016 #4
Geez, give the guy a little space. Where's your humanity tonight ? Trust Buster Jun 2016 #2
Bernie brought this on himself Corporate666 Jun 2016 #5
Sorry, as a Hillary supporter myself, I disagree. Senator Sanders felt that he had a responsibility Trust Buster Jun 2016 #7
foolsih pride. puffy socks Jun 2016 #3
Please give them a break? tandot Jun 2016 #6
Why? He Made Clear... TomCADem Jun 2016 #11
trash thread Hiraeth Jun 2016 #8
Pointlessly divisive. Please consider self-deleting. emulatorloo Jun 2016 #9
He Said He Is Continuing His Campaign Through Philadelphia TomCADem Jun 2016 #10
Divisive post, you should self delete! B Calm Jun 2016 #12
Wise men have been known to play the fool when necessary. dinkytron Jun 2016 #13
 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
1. We can give this kind of piece a rest for a while.
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 12:13 AM
Jun 2016

Help Sanders and his folks see past the current situation rather than rubbing salt in the wound.

Response to geek tragedy (Reply #1)

Corporate666

(587 posts)
5. Bernie brought this on himself
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 12:18 AM
Jun 2016

The magnanimous course of action would have been to get in touch with HRC after New York and work out a plan where he concedes and supports here.

It's obvious it was over after NY. His only point in continuing was ego, narcissism and being perfectly willing to be a spoiler if it furthered his own cause.

So it's not surprising he is reaping what he sowed.

 

Trust Buster

(7,299 posts)
7. Sorry, as a Hillary supporter myself, I disagree. Senator Sanders felt that he had a responsibility
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 12:26 AM
Jun 2016

to see this through given the effort his supporters put forth. That is an admirable quality. We have succeeded in attaining our goal tonight. Trump and his supporters are officially now our foe. Continued attacks on Senator Sanders serves no legitimate purpose at this point. I remember how I felt 8 years ago. I will not attack my fellow Democrats tonight. I will show compassion for the year long effort that Senator Sanders and his supporters have invested.

 

puffy socks

(1,473 posts)
3. foolsih pride.
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 12:14 AM
Jun 2016

that and the fact his worshipers will crucify him if he drops out before the convention.

tandot

(6,671 posts)
6. Please give them a break?
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 12:20 AM
Jun 2016

We need all the support we can get and the gloating doesn't help.

Sanders has energized a lot of voters and we have to get them on our side. They can really help working on a future thT is good for all of us

TomCADem

(17,387 posts)
11. Why? He Made Clear...
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 03:29 PM
Jun 2016

...he is still pursuing his plan to steal the nomination with Superdelegates. That is the antithesis of what he claimed he was for.

TomCADem

(17,387 posts)
10. He Said He Is Continuing His Campaign Through Philadelphia
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 02:07 AM
Jun 2016

If he wants a contest convention and continue to tag team with Trump against the presumptive Democratic nominee, then he is the reason why Trump will win.

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