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Sanders need a "Mathematical Miracle" to win California (Original Post) Doctor Jack Jun 2016 OP
All the polls were wrong. Mmm hmm. Barack_America Jun 2016 #1
Are you saying California was stolen from Bernie? Cali_Democrat Jun 2016 #6
No, not really. Election integrity is not a valued topic at DU. Barack_America Jun 2016 #9
So...by your logic Corporate666 Jun 2016 #17
Polls were "rigged" for Sanders. Glad the BS is almost over. Hoyt Jun 2016 #2
Supposedly Clinton won the early vote almost 2 to 1 and early voters might be 60% of all voters. LonePirate Jun 2016 #3
Minorities are 51% of the state. Independents had to ask for a Dem ballot to vote upaloopa Jun 2016 #4
His only hope here was right wing NPP voters trying to stop Clinton ContinentalOp Jun 2016 #5
Did they stay home because their feelings were hurt? Isn't that counterproductive down-ballot? Hekate Jun 2016 #16
I was kind of kidding ContinentalOp Jun 2016 #19
Okay, okay. It's just that this place is crawling with conspiracy theories tonight.... Hekate Jun 2016 #20
Older people like myself VOTE.... LenaBaby61 Jun 2016 #7
32% are in, and a lot of those are vote by mail. There is still a ways to go, though I would say still_one Jun 2016 #8
Only 14% are in. nt Live and Learn Jun 2016 #18
That is not accurate. 35% are in, with Hillary at 61.6% verses Bernie at 37.3% still_one Jun 2016 #21
Now they are. nt Live and Learn Jun 2016 #22
ok still_one Jun 2016 #23
This message was self-deleted by its author Ken Burch Jun 2016 #10
Nope, spelled perfectly Doctor Jack Jun 2016 #11
Well now it is. n/t. Ken Burch Jun 2016 #12
"Calinfornia"? Warren DeMontague Jun 2016 #13
Its fine Doctor Jack Jun 2016 #15
In my experience the more liberal areas of CA come in later. So early results can be misleading. Warren DeMontague Jun 2016 #14

Corporate666

(587 posts)
17. So...by your logic
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 12:58 AM
Jun 2016

Bernie stole Michigan, right?

Can't have your cake and eat it too. Either polls are reliable and deviation from polls indicates fraud.

OR

Polls are unreliable and shouldn't be used to "know" what the results will be.



Or, like everything else with the Bernie campaign, does the opinion change in a heartbeat depending on whether it's helpful or hurtful to the Sanders campaign?

LonePirate

(13,419 posts)
3. Supposedly Clinton won the early vote almost 2 to 1 and early voters might be 60% of all voters.
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 12:29 AM
Jun 2016

Strong ground games and campaign organizations win early votes where more and more contests are won (just as in FL and OH, for instance).

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
4. Minorities are 51% of the state. Independents had to ask for a Dem ballot to vote
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 12:30 AM
Jun 2016

Bernie's crowd are mostly white independents.

Hekate

(90,674 posts)
16. Did they stay home because their feelings were hurt? Isn't that counterproductive down-ballot?
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 12:54 AM
Jun 2016

How did the AP prevent anybody from voting? That is a ridiculous assertion. Just ridiculous.

ContinentalOp

(5,356 posts)
19. I was kind of kidding
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 01:05 AM
Jun 2016

But I was worried about npp republicans voting for Sanders since Trump already has the nomination. But after AP called it for Clinton last night, there would be no reason for conservatives to screw with our primary today.

Hekate

(90,674 posts)
20. Okay, okay. It's just that this place is crawling with conspiracy theories tonight....
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 01:14 AM
Jun 2016

Gaaah.
The point you make about conservatives messing with our primary is the whole reason I am in favor of closed primaries.

Cheers

LenaBaby61

(6,974 posts)
7. Older people like myself VOTE....
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 12:31 AM
Jun 2016

IE: Mail in Ballots.

Younger people, well, they vote when they "feel" like it most of them. I wish they would vote more, but oh well

still_one

(92,187 posts)
8. 32% are in, and a lot of those are vote by mail. There is still a ways to go, though I would say
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 12:33 AM
Jun 2016

with 32% counted, if Sanders did manage to pull something out, it would be close, no blowout win for sure




still_one

(92,187 posts)
21. That is not accurate. 35% are in, with Hillary at 61.6% verses Bernie at 37.3%
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 01:18 AM
Jun 2016
http://www.cnn.com/election/primaries/states/ca/Dem

and while Bernie can still pull this off, if he does, it will be close

Response to Doctor Jack (Original post)

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
14. In my experience the more liberal areas of CA come in later. So early results can be misleading.
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 12:42 AM
Jun 2016

IIRC both Bush and McCain were leading CA when only 15% or so of the results were in, in '04 and '08 respectively.

Now, Hillary may carry the more liberal areas, but I wouldn't go on the early numbers.

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