I'll be the one that says it: If Bernie doesn't pull off CA, he should go ahead and suspend after DC

[Joe the Revelator]

There's no path or argument to make at that point, aside from the indictment,which will happen with or without the Bernie campaign in full campaign mode.

Now if he wins CA, I still think he should stay in until the convention and see how the cards shake out.

[Hiraeth]

1. trash thread.

[Joe the Revelator]

2. Strategically, to make his moon shot work, he has to have California.

Sorry, I know its not going to be popular but it is reality. It doesn't mean anything changes as far as the issues go or what you do with your vote.

[Joe the Revelator]

6. I'm apologizing to you, high speed.

I'm not going to avoid facts just to stay on the team. Like I said, the FBI gives two shits about campaigns. What they do would be all that matters without a win in CA. Bernie can hold his delegates, but he doesn't need to campaign everyday. Unless he wins CA.

[Hiraeth]

7. Joe, I respect you but, I am not in the mood for this Right Now. I trashed the thread

Please respect that. Good luck with this thread.

[Joe the Revelator]

8. Understood.

Make no mistake, the fight goes on, we'll figure out the how. I'll see you on the other side.

[still_one]

3. He may pull off California, but it won't be by much.

[Joe the Revelator]

5. If he wins it, he can use it for his moon shot

It's an interesting state for Hillary to lose, if she loses it. Obviously, my opinion is much more liberal (no pun intended) than yours. But CA keeps him in the game, even if just barely.

[redstateblues]

10. CA doesn't look good for Bernie. Why was he so confident?

[Joe the Revelator]

11. I don't know if he was confident, or that it was a huge state, with a huge pool of delegates

that he could barnstorm. The fact that its a huge progressive stronghold doesn't hurt either. He could have either put all resources into NJ or CA. I'd agree that CA would give him the best chance to say this thing ain't over.

[still_one]

13. The results will tighten up here, but fact will remain at the end of the day Clinton will have the

most pledged delegates, regardless of how California ends up, and that will be a tough argument to fight.

It is his choice if he wants to stay in until the convention, but objectively speaking, he doesn't have the votes.

What he does have is some leverage. In my view the peak of that leverage is right now. If he or his campaign decide to continue on to the convention, publicly attacking Hillary, and the DNC, I believe that leverage disappear.

My personal view is that regardless of how California finishes, in the next two weeks both campaigns will work to build bridges, and Bernie will use his leverage to influence the Hillary campaign, and the DNC with issues that are important to him.

We will see how it plays out

[Corporate666]

9. Why should he wait until DC?

Seriously, all other issues aside, what does Bernie hope or stand to gain by staying in to DC?

His path was nonviable after NY, but even if he is living in a dream world himself, he can't possibly think he has any shot after tonight. So what is to be gained?

It hurts HRC if he stays in.
After taking such a whipping tonight, it's not like he has a strong voice within the party that must be listened to.

Other than just clinging to a glamorous lifestyle of being on TV every day and going on stages and listening to the adulation of fans, what else is there for him in staying in?

[Joe the Revelator]

12. Because at this point, the narrative from his campaign has been 'everyone should get to vote'

What's the harm in doing a few campaign stops in DC and letting them vote. i think we all know how thats going to turn out, but it lets him go out on his terms and fulfill his promise to campaign everywhere.

[democrattotheend]

14. I agree about DC

He has an event scheduled at RFK Stadium on Thursday that I hope he goes ahead with. People in that part of town don't get much attention from politicians despite being so close to the center of it all.