Hillary supporters, you won so maybe you stop any insults at this point.....

[Logical]

It will heal this place quicker and then the Bernie fans who want to cause issues will be banned anyway.

You won, trump is the goal now, insulting Bernie fans or insulting Bernie does nothing to help.

#NEVERTRUMP

[vercetti2021]

1. Too late for most

I refuse to vote for her.

[Dem2]

4. Cuz anonymous posters on the internet hurt your feelings?

Why do I have trouble believing that?

[vercetti2021]

9. Hurt my feelings?

Lol you mean by labeling us? Unity my ass. Believe what you want. I'll stay independent until the Democratic party returns to its progressive roots.

[Dem2]

13. I was right

You're not believable.

[Loudestlib]

14. Maybe Hillary is a crappy candidate?

Maybe people don't want to vote for someone with no platform? Maybe people don't think that being the "not the other guy" is good enough?

[Dem2]

19. Perhaps you missed the point of this thread and the meaning of the reply

Your opinion is noted, but not relevant IMO.

[Loudestlib]

21. Your note is worthless but thanks?

[Logical]

12. Hope your gone soon. Nt

[vercetti2021]

17. Gone?

No I just believe in my progressive mindset. Which she is not. But I'll stick around for the enjoyment. Been for 6 years.

[chwaliszewski]

33. I think you mean 'you're', not 'your'. Just saying.

Which is kind of funny coming from someone with the name 'Logical'. Sorry, misspelling and improper grammar is one of my pet peeves.

[Logical]

40. Wow, really? Bet you are annoying as hell.

[chwaliszewski]

46. Yes, really.

It depends on who you ask. But, what would you like to bet? I've got $27 and a can of spam.

[MFM008]

2. I agree.

[Electric Monk]

3. I think for some it's just about their enjoying the 'hippie punching' too much

Obvious trolls are, indeed, obvious.

[Tarc]

5. We're trying, but some ppl here seem insistent on going out in an blaze of FFR glory

[Logical]

11. I know, but many here will support Hillary. Don't impact them. Nt

[Loudestlib]

6. Why stop now?

I've vote straight dem for almost 3 decades. I live in a swing state, so, I felt obligated. This election, I'm going to sit this one out. Hopefully someone will run in the next four years that I can support. Have fun!

[AllTooEasy]

29. Please vote in the Senate and House races!

Those votes are just as important.

[bravenak]

7. I think I can

[Logical]

8. I believe you! :-)

[JI7]

35. thank you, some Clinton people are coming off as bullies

i don't have a problem with responses to attacks on her. but i'm seeing some things and thinking "what is the point of that" other than to just be mean.

[msongs]

10. the purpose of DU is to support the democratic party nominee. that's up to the bernie crowd nt

[Logical]

15. Or you could be the classy winner. But be rude if you think it helps. Nt

[Ken Burch]

26. Why do you think being all "I won't ease up on the Sanders people at all tonight" helps HRC?

People like me are going to be fighting like hell to keep Sanders voters from voting for Stein. Your attitude makes it incredibly difficult for us to do so.

You do WANT HRC to win in November, don't you?

[Silver_Witch]

36. This does appeal

It's time to build a people's movement to end unemployment and poverty; avert climate catastrophe; build a sustainable, just economy; and recognize the dignity and human rights of every person. The power to create this new world is not in our hopes; it’s not in our dreams — it's in our hands.

[HooptieWagon]

38. Stein is up to 5% now in a recent poll.

That's double what Nader got in 2000. Number is 7% among the Independants so hated by conservadems. Her numbers are growing, as BoB picks up momentum... So you have a tough chore ahead. Hillarians not helping their candidate at all, but I'm sure Jill appreciates all they're doing to send voters her way.

[Ken Burch]

44. It's as if they're secretly running her campaign.

The worst way to get young people to vote HRC instead of Stein is to treat young activists like dirt and sneer at them for daring to work for what they believe in.

HRC deserves better supporters than that.

[HooptieWagon]

61. I beg to differ.

She's got the supporters she deserves. Anyone who pals around with Henry Kissinger, Robert Kagan, and David Brock, is going to attract supporters of authoritarian conservative leanings, no ethics, and nasty temperaments.

[Ken Burch]

62. I meant it's as if the HRC's strategists WANT Stein to do well.

Their actions have often seemed to be designed to inflate Stein's vote.

Hopefully they will stop acting like that soon.

[TwilightZone]

57. She polled at 2-3% in 2012 and ended up with 450k votes total.

Don't believe the 5%. She got 0.35% in 2012, a small fraction of what she was polling. She won't top 1% in November.

[HooptieWagon]

60. I think both she and Johnson will do fairly well.

Both major parties running candidates very disliked by majority of voters. That indicates a low voter turnout, and minor parties doing well as a percentage.
Also, Stein has been reaching out effectively via FB to the BoBers. Many who were going to write in Sanders are now talking about going Green.

[HooptieWagon]

28. DU will see the same drop in participation as the Democratic Party.

Heckuva job, Debbie!

[TwilightZone]

56. Democrats are now the largest voting bloc in the country.

Have been since December.

http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/party-identification

[HooptieWagon]

58. Yep. Registered to vote or Bernie.

Watch 'em leave now, along with some long time Democrats who are very disgusted.

[aikoaiko]

16. They need to get it out of their systems.

[radical noodle]

18. No insults from me

Most of the Hillary supporters have always said they'd vote for Bernie if he won, unlike the Bernie supporters who swore they'd never vote for Hillary.

I understand that it's really tough to lose and that it's best to give everyone some time and space to adjust. It has taken me some time in the past. I think Hillary will be a gracious winner and will reach out to Bernie in a way that will make him understand that he has done a lot in this campaign to make people more aware of the issues we face.

I am sure Bernie will continue to be an important part of the party if he wishes to be.

[JI7]

20. I agree, they should just celebrate and try to ignore the hate

She WILL be the nominee. nothing is going to change that . at the very least think of the sanders fans who will vote for clinton but are feeling down right now.

just focus on going after trump now .

[Logical]

22. +1000 nt

[Corporate666]

23. As soon as Bernie concedes, sure!

Bernie is the one that is keeping this going.

He needs to go on TV and thank America and all voters for the opportunity, acknowledge he lost fair and square (end the conspirary theory BS), endorse her and only then will it start to close the fracture that's developed.

[HooptieWagon]

24. Let them go on.

It just shows their true colors....makes the divorce that much easier.

[PufPuf23]

25. The constant meanness and gas lighting by many Clinton supporters here at DU for months

is less than positive in impact.

No more comment.

[upaloopa]

37. Back at you

[PufPuf23]

47. Personally I have seldom been mean near snarky to other posters

albeit not perfect.

You just proved my point. Count your posts or proportion of your posts that are nothing been hostile to others and zero content.

I have tried to stick to issues but to me Clinton has severe character issues (and won't be the first POTUS like that).

Some folks (on both sides) seem to exist to mock and demean.

I have my reasons to not favor Hillary Clinton that pre-date Sander's quest and that have nothing to do with Sanders.

I have been a loyal and voting Democrat party member for about 45 years and don't intend to change.

[lunamagica]

27. I agree, Logical

[creeksneakers2]

30. Much to admire about Sanders and his supporters

I don't remember any politician ever getting that much emotional investment from his followers. The fundraising success with only small donations is mind boggling. I can understand why his followers would take this hard. They did way better than predicted.

I hope those who have left will come back. They would be a terrific asset and have much to contribute to the conversation too.

[chillfactor]

31. and how about...

Bernie fans laying off Hillary insults....she is our presumptive nominee....the first woman in our country's history to hold that position...how about showing her some respect.

[Silver_Witch]

45. Respect is earned.

Being the Presumptive Nominee or the Nominee does not automate respect. Sorry...it doesn't. You just have to see the posts about Trump on this site to see that being a Nominee means nothings. If we can make fun of him then I guess they can make fun of our nominee.

It is sad that we can't be grown-ups and just use his crazy policies or words to show he is not fit.

I don't respect Trump and I am sure you don't either. So there is no automatic respect.

Hell I didn't respect Bush when he was President I did recognize he was the president and didn't call him names...but man it was tough.

[RobertEarl]

32. Nah

They need to ramp it up

This is their moment to shine on, show us what they got, let it all out.

[upaloopa]

34. How about telling your side the same thing?

I can't accept the idea that we are responsible for your voting decisions.

[Logical]

43. I have told them. Nt

[yuiyoshida]

39. are you kidding?

We will have to wait till GD: P is shut down.

[TwilightZone]

41. It works both ways.

Both candidates have supporters who are jackasses. All candidates do. Expecting one side to play nice when the other is still posting crap from the Gateway Pundit and the Blaze, claiming them to be legit sources, might be a bit unrealistic.

Also realize that some "supporters" on both sides aren't supporters at all. The most obnoxious ones are also some of the more obvious, on both sides. For them, calls for unity are going to fall on deaf ears, because unity is the last thing they want.

[lancer78]

42. Nothing more vengefull

Than a woman scorned.

[ucrdem]

48. Logical you and Morningfog posted very decent OPs and I applaud you

BUT . . . anyone who has ever bumped one of those f#cking Lord of the Flies threads that the hosts refuse to lock or bumped them twice or thrice has no business complaining for the next few days. If it were up to me it would stop yesterday but it isn't and turnabout is fair play.

[Logical]

49. If you think it helps please continue. Nt

[ucrdem]

52. I think an apology to those involved would help. nt

[Algernon Moncrieff]

50. To the Bernie Sanders supporters

1) My support of Hillary Clinton does not mean I or most of us bear you ill will. I agree with the OP - it's time to tone it down.

2) Bernie Sanders fought well, and I think the impact of his campaign, like Howard Dean in '04, will last well into the future.

3) If you are one of the Bernie supporters who is angry with the DU community right now - I get it. I've been there. If you feel you must leave, my advice is take a break and stop back by around the holidays. Even those of you I've had battles with, I will be sorry to see go.

4) In the DU community sense, some of my longtime friendships have been damaged over this campaign, and I hope that can change in the coming years.

5) I want to say this about yesterday's AP announcement: if I were in your shoes, the day before a make-or-break primary, I'd be pissed too. That said, I don't think Hillary Clinton controls the media -- as much as I sometimes wish she did. I have three other possible explanations that I think are valid:
a) AP simply wanted to scoop everyone and declare a winner, so they canvassed the SDs
b) Conservatives that do control media outlets like NBC released the story to advance Hillary's cause while simultaneously sowing discord among Sanders supporters. The reasoning being that angry Sanders supporters are less likely to support Hillary if so angered.
c) Conservatives that do control the media outlets like NBC released the story to advance Hillary's cause because many of them are quietly concluding that four years of Hillary may be preferable to four years of Trump.

6) #NeverTrump

[Logical]

51. Nice post! Nt

[sheshe2]

53. I am just posting positive things about Hill in our group.

Posted this today as well.



Eric Haywood ?@EricHaywood


Me, when the lady at the #PrimaryDay polling place told me I wasn't allowed to write in Michelle Obama:

2:22 PM - 7 Jun 2016

https://theobamadiary.com/

Lol~ She is adorable!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/118753367

I am trying, yet the hurtful "praying for an indictment" comments don't help, Logical. Both sides need to try here. Both sides.

I truly appreciated your thread today, yet both need to come together.

[Agnosticsherbet]

54. Bernie ran a great campaign and moved the party left

Now, I am going to work on kicking Trump's rump.

[DisgustipatedinCA]

55. It would be unwise to ever forget some of the things that have been said here recently.

I won't be forgetting.

[DesertRat]

59. We're not all posting insults

Sorry for the vocal minority who are. You are right---> #NEVERTRUMP