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Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 01:15 AM Jun 2016

Inside the bitter last days of Bernie's revolution

For better and for worse, Sanders made all the big decisions.




There’s no strategist pulling the strings, and no collection of burn-it-all-down aides egging him on. At the heart of the rage against Hillary Clinton and the Democratic Party, the campaign aides closest to him say, is Bernie Sanders.

It was the Vermont senator who personally rewrote his campaign manager’s shorter statement after the chaos at the Nevada state party convention and blamed the political establishment for inciting the violence.

He was the one who made the choice to go after Democratic National Committee chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz after his wife read him a transcript of her blasting him on television.

He chose the knife fight over calling Clinton unqualified, which aides blame for pulling the bottom out of any hopes they had of winning in New York and their last real chance of turning a losing primary run around.

And when Jimmy Kimmel’s producers asked Sanders’ campaign for a question to ask Donald Trump, Sanders himself wrote the one challenging the Republican nominee to a debate.
...

But more than any of them, Sanders is himself filled with resentment, on edge, feeling like he gets no respect -- all while holding on in his head to the enticing but remote chance that Clinton may be indicted before the convention.

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/06/bernie-sanders-campaign-last-days-224041

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Excellent read on backstage at Camp Sanders.

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Inside the bitter last days of Bernie's revolution (Original Post) Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 OP
It is ugly. Aides knew months ago that he was mathematically out of it. nt LexVegas Jun 2016 #1
The portrait of a nasty, bitter guy, who shot himself in the foot, is beginning to emerge. Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #2
Not quite as spicy as the last days of Clinton's campaign in 2008 Armstead Jun 2016 #44
We have no idea--he has neither acknowledged her historic accomplishment, nor conceded anything. Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #51
The last days of Clinton's 2008 campaign had just as much crap going on Armstead Jun 2016 #53
It's always tough in the last days of anything where you are losing Yupster Jun 2016 #76
The article answers the question: Why has only one US Senator endorsed Bernie? kstewart33 Jun 2016 #46
Exactly. "Does NOT play well with others"... Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #47
was thinking of the same thing....n/t ExtraGriz Jun 2016 #59
He would have made a terrible president. Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #50
Nasty, vengeful tendencies--totally inappropriate for a Commander-in-Chief. Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #54
Sort of like somebody else that won't release their tax returns? tonyt53 Jun 2016 #58
He is angry with Barney for stuff that happened over 20 years ago. Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #101
I don't see bitterness. I see a man who wants to see things through til the end. He knows that it's atomingai Jun 2016 #103
Posts hidden by Jury: 9 chascarrillo Jun 2016 #107
Feel free to peruse the evidence of your fellows' "mommy, mommy", run-to-teacher Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #110
I blame Jane Sanders too BuddhaGirl Jun 2016 #62
I actually liked those decisions Ned_Devine Jun 2016 #3
He paid a big price for them. Not very good return on investment. Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #4
The "party" wanted her as the nominee as soon as Barack was sworn in in 2009... Ned_Devine Jun 2016 #6
Millions of people wanted her as the nominee. That's how she won. nt BreakfastClub Jun 2016 #10
Some Bernie supporters have a hard time realizing that voters wanted her... all american girl Jun 2016 #15
Some Clinton supporters have a hard time realizing that large percentage wanted him Armstead Jun 2016 #45
Obviously more wanted her. Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #52
Go ahead. You're only hurting Clinton's campaign if you want to be smug and dismissive Armstead Jun 2016 #56
I am not being smug. It is a statement of fact. Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #100
Thank you. That answer may be too complex for the people that responded to me though Ned_Devine Jun 2016 #85
More people voted for her...there is no getting around that.... all american girl Jun 2016 #91
Um, nobody is trying to take your vote away Armstead Jun 2016 #92
The guy running his campaing created the SD...so there's that all american girl Jun 2016 #98
"No difference"? That is reminiscent of Nader's "not a dime's worth of difference" redstateblues Jun 2016 #31
What do you expect when the establishment overrules the people's voice? atomingai Jun 2016 #104
Why did he lie? metroins Jun 2016 #30
I hope you liked that better than winning. wildeyed Jun 2016 #37
This revolution is in its *early* days not its last. True we've lost the current battle jack_krass Jun 2016 #5
Most Americans don't want a revolution, though. -nt- Lord Magus Jun 2016 #20
Time will tell, I thimk they do. Our "revolution" is nothong radical, and based on sound principles jack_krass Jun 2016 #41
One more - -none Jun 2016 #49
"Honest elections" aren't defined by your candidate winning. Lord Magus Jun 2016 #64
It is a myth that election problems caused Bernie's defeat. LonePirate Jun 2016 #70
are you going to restart occupy wall street? I thought that was the start? snooper2 Jun 2016 #68
No, Which points in my "wishlist" above led you to that conclusion? jack_krass Jun 2016 #79
You have no clue what he meant by revolution Armstead Jun 2016 #48
K&R. I was against this type of post tonight, but since he did not conceed, and the way Hillary was lunamagica Jun 2016 #7
Not only did he NOT concede, he stood there encouraging his fanatic Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #8
Classless, completely classless lunamagica Jun 2016 #9
Well said. This article has been posted a few times Number23 Jun 2016 #11
Me, too. Every last one! Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #12
None of you here respect the process of finishing. the. primary. You disrespect the rules ancianita Jun 2016 #61
Codswallop...bullpucky...claptrap...blatherskite...hogwash...etc. Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #69
Republican namecalling. Typical of the shallow. Name ONE example of flouting, discourtesy. ancianita Jun 2016 #77
Feel free to peruse the evidence of your fellows' "mommy, mommy", run-to-teacher Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #81
I've served hundreds of juries, still with a 100% chance of serving. I know how good the system ancianita Jun 2016 #83
Thanks for the unsolicited advice. You might want to take some of it yourself. Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #84
You've made yourself special. Even the advice you've solicited is lost on you. ancianita Jun 2016 #86
Ride on... Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #87
Haha... ancianita Jun 2016 #89
Good taste. Luv Khaleesi and the Palomino pony is adorable. Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #93
Gotta mark that you said something positive about a Berner on my calendar. ancianita Jun 2016 #95
Not the first or the last time. LOL! Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #96
Great! ancianita Jun 2016 #97
With BSS stacked juries hides are given for redstateblues Jun 2016 #102
The primary is over. When the required number of delegates WhiteTara Jun 2016 #75
+1... SidDithers Jun 2016 #35
Nothing in that article surprises me. Beacool Jun 2016 #13
Sadly, it only confirmed what I instinctively intuited, just watching his antics on the stump. Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #14
Great Article and it is clear that Sanders is a bitter man Gothmog Jun 2016 #16
His vengeful nature and nasty streak are on full display. Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #17
Says you melman Jun 2016 #36
It is what was there. Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #57
Says me because I read the article which confirmed my Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #63
Vengeful, my ass. You haven't shown that you know anything about him but what ancianita Jun 2016 #65
Politico is hearsay now? Who knew? Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #71
nyahnyah rubber glue that's your republican style ancianita Jun 2016 #74
Goes with the territory when your candidate is rjsquirrel Jun 2016 #105
He makes emotional knee-jerk decisions based upon incomplete or deliberately misleading information. baldguy Jun 2016 #18
As I observed in another thread: Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #19
You know a candidate is really losing when staff start leaking how it's not their fault... brooklynite Jun 2016 #21
"Passing the hot potato" as the house and stove are falling down around them. Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #23
Casca, the social networking guy, threw him ALL the way under the bus. wildeyed Jun 2016 #40
^^^This!^^^ Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #66
I was stunned Stuckinthebush Jun 2016 #22
The sheer hubris and self-delusion on display were indeed stunning. Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #24
Yes, she's an interesting person Stuckinthebush Jun 2016 #25
She's one of those "let's you and him fight" sorts. Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #28
So much is clear now. Starry Messenger Jun 2016 #26
+1 obamanut2012 Jun 2016 #42
He's a total disgrace, MoonRiver Jun 2016 #27
As they say in the gaming world: Major Fail. Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #29
K&R...The curtain has been pulled back on the Sanders campaign. Alfresco Jun 2016 #32
It's a must-read article. I feel vindicated in my assessment of him. Metric System Jun 2016 #33
Me, too. I was practically fist-pumping the air as I read it. Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #34
As expected Surya! Negative "leader" results in failure. livetohike Jun 2016 #38
Or, as I observed somewhere else, and as the old adage goes: Character is destiny. Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #78
This part really says something... brooklynite Jun 2016 #39
Sounds like Devine squealed. Renew Deal Jun 2016 #43
That was my first thought too. I get the feeling he's sufrommich Jun 2016 #55
I saw "Weaver" more than Devine (see the debate negotiation) robbedvoter Jun 2016 #60
I'm sure Devine isn't the only one. Renew Deal Jun 2016 #72
Tad Devine's career depends on him coming away from this campaign with his rep intact. Agnosticsherbet Jun 2016 #67
Devine is very experienced at this level Renew Deal Jun 2016 #73
The part of the article that talked about Sherrod Brown did not appear in the OP. Trust Buster Jun 2016 #80
Outsider...vindictive...hates the democratic party...wants to settle scores workinclasszero Jun 2016 #82
Two peas in the proverbial pod. Brothers from a different mother... Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #88
Agreed workinclasszero Jun 2016 #90
Well, at least he and the family got a luxury trip to Rome. MoonRiver Jun 2016 #94
Fuck Ezra "sore winner" Klein! mhatrw Jun 2016 #99
Sad pressbox69 Jun 2016 #106
not bitter! pissed at the level of deception and hopemountain Jun 2016 #108
Hit piece. N/t Helga Scow Stern Jun 2016 #109
 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
51. We have no idea--he has neither acknowledged her historic accomplishment, nor conceded anything.
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 09:49 AM
Jun 2016

Who knows what stunts he may pull next week? He's proving to be a very loose cannon, much like the Repub. challenger, the Talking Yam.

Yupster

(14,308 posts)
76. It's always tough in the last days of anything where you are losing
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 10:30 AM
Jun 2016

Everyone s flailing around for a way to turn things around.

People turn on each other and start to find ways to cover their own butts from blame.

Same with a losing sports team or army.

kstewart33

(6,551 posts)
46. The article answers the question: Why has only one US Senator endorsed Bernie?
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 09:42 AM
Jun 2016

And supports CA US Senator Diane Feinstein's view: "Bernie is hard to make friends with."

Demsrule86

(68,543 posts)
50. He would have made a terrible president.
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 09:49 AM
Jun 2016

He would have used the power of the presidency to pay back those who failed to support him sufficiently.

Demsrule86

(68,543 posts)
101. He is angry with Barney for stuff that happened over 20 years ago.
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 11:47 PM
Jun 2016

I would hate to see him use presidential power to pay back people who have crossed him.

 

atomingai

(71 posts)
103. I don't see bitterness. I see a man who wants to see things through til the end. He knows that it's
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 12:02 AM
Jun 2016

a tough challenge, but right now it's about keeping his word. In victory or defeat, a man should always finish what he's started and honor his promise.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
110. Feel free to peruse the evidence of your fellows' "mommy, mommy", run-to-teacher
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 02:39 AM
Jun 2016

mentality that is on display in those bogus hides.

No profanity, no personal insults--just pertinent critiques of The Sainted One. Unbearable for the truly devoted.

BuddhaGirl

(3,602 posts)
62. I blame Jane Sanders too
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 09:56 AM
Jun 2016

I think she really hates Hillary and was really pushing Bernie to go negative against her, and to continue to press on after the math emerged showing the impossibility of a win.

 

Ned_Devine

(3,146 posts)
3. I actually liked those decisions
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 01:20 AM
Jun 2016

I've really felt like liberal leftists like myself and many others needed his voice. You may disagree, but many of us don't and are very thankful for everything he's done.

 

Ned_Devine

(3,146 posts)
6. The "party" wanted her as the nominee as soon as Barack was sworn in in 2009...
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 01:46 AM
Jun 2016

...and there was no way they were going to let Lieutenant Columbo spoil their plans. It didn't matter what he said or did. There was a concerted effort on the part of the DNC and media outlets to make him invisible. This country of ours has a real big problem with leftists and we saw it first hand with how Bernie was treated.

He wasn't talking about building walls, starting wars or sending people back to their countries or not letting people in. He talked of universal health care and college. He talked about expanding medicare and social security. He talked about getting filthy money out of our corrupt political system and bringing power back to the people. To liberals, and any sane compassionate person, these would all seem like phenomenal ideas, and even if we couldn't afford them, the conversation should have revolved around "how can we find a way to make these ideas a reality?"

Instead so many of you called him a crazy sad old man, made insinuations that he was a racist, sexist and any other nefarious -ist you can think of. And it wasn't just the candidate you attacked. Many of you and the media brought those charges against his supporters as well. Bernie supporters I met in my travels knocking on doors in several states and phone banking were of the hippie variety; vegans, vegetarians, pacifists, people that may have played frisbee golf. You know what I mean? Yet in the media and even here insinuations were made that his supporters were violent, sexist and racist. That was the gamble your side shouldn't have made.

Attack the candidate? Sure, because that's what happens in a campaign. But the constant attacks on the supporters was a bridge too far. I would guess that 99% of us would never vote for Trump even though comparisons between Bernie's supporters and Trump's were made daily. No, we'll either sit out the process entirely or vote our conscience and vote Green Party. I can live with voting Green Party, not only because in MA I don't have to worry about the outcome of the election, but because I see no difference between HRC and Trump beside the obvious differences.

So, I would say that the decision to constantly attack Bernie's supporters daily was a pretty bad decision that the HRC camp will pay a big price for. And THAT is what I would call a "not very good return on investment."

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
45. Some Clinton supporters have a hard time realizing that large percentage wanted him
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 09:42 AM
Jun 2016

I don't know what the percentages will be after the AP Fucked Primaries yesterday, but somewhere between the high 30's and 45 percent voted against Clinton and for Sanders. In some states her margin of victory was very narrow.

No not enough to "win" but a sizable percentage that you ignore and insult at your peril if you care about the upcoming election or the long range future.

Demsrule86

(68,543 posts)
52. Obviously more wanted her.
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 09:50 AM
Jun 2016

She won. Maybe it was not a good idea to hurl sexist insults at Sen Feinstein and Sen. Boxer.

Demsrule86

(68,543 posts)
100. I am not being smug. It is a statement of fact.
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 11:45 PM
Jun 2016

I have never understood how you guys think Bernie could win the GE when he can't win a primary.

 

Ned_Devine

(3,146 posts)
85. Thank you. That answer may be too complex for the people that responded to me though
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 11:02 AM
Jun 2016

I'll be back for the convention. Time for me to take a break from this place.

all american girl

(1,788 posts)
91. More people voted for her...there is no getting around that....
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 12:07 PM
Jun 2016

and sorry, he doesn't get to take my vote away from me. I have no problem staying until the end, but no, my vote mattered...she won...you will not take my vote away.

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
92. Um, nobody is trying to take your vote away
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 12:10 PM
Jun 2016

Trying to convince SD's who made their decision long before any votes were cast is what that system is set up to do. The SD system sucks, but it is what it is. Bernie didn't invent it.

He won't succeed in changing their minds -- unless something unforeseen happens. But objectively speaking, the SDs who represent states or districts that voted for Sanders are also negating their votes.

all american girl

(1,788 posts)
98. The guy running his campaing created the SD...so there's that
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 12:35 PM
Jun 2016

and you still don't get to take away the 3-4 million votes more HRC...sorry, get over it...I'm not trying to be ugly, but no, this will not happen.

redstateblues

(10,565 posts)
31. "No difference"? That is reminiscent of Nader's "not a dime's worth of difference"
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 08:56 AM
Jun 2016

Saying Hillary and Trump are the same only shows that you haven't been paying attention to politics or that you are so blinded by your devotion to Bernie that you can't see the truth. The SCOTUS difference alone would affect this country for a generation.

metroins

(2,550 posts)
30. Why did he lie?
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 08:54 AM
Jun 2016

Why did Sanders blatantly lie to supporters by telling them there was a viable path these past 2 months?

He lied so many times during his campaign.

wildeyed

(11,243 posts)
37. I hope you liked that better than winning.
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 09:22 AM
Jun 2016

Because if he dialed back the rhetoric a little bit and worked harder at the persuasion game, he might have won. It's the nature of politics. You need to make the base larger to win the big elections.

 

jack_krass

(1,009 posts)
5. This revolution is in its *early* days not its last. True we've lost the current battle
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 01:24 AM
Jun 2016

And sadly will get a 1%er corporate slop wallowing POTUS (HRC or Trump) but the genie is out of the bottle, and movement will continue to gain momentum.

 

jack_krass

(1,009 posts)
41. Time will tell, I thimk they do. Our "revolution" is nothong radical, and based on sound principles
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 09:30 AM
Jun 2016

-money out of politics
-neocon warmongers out of the state dept.
-corporations out of the lawmaking process
-placing value on education by extening K12
-basic right to health care

-none

(1,884 posts)
49. One more -
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 09:48 AM
Jun 2016

-Honest elections.

With honest elections, Hillary would have been an also ran drop out months ago.
This country has not had any real honest national elections since at least from 2000 and maybe before.

Lord Magus

(1,999 posts)
64. "Honest elections" aren't defined by your candidate winning.
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 10:00 AM
Jun 2016

Bernie lost because the majority of voters wanted Hillary, not because the elections were somehow rigged against him.

LonePirate

(13,417 posts)
70. It is a myth that election problems caused Bernie's defeat.
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 10:11 AM
Jun 2016

Yes, there were problems, some due to incompetence of officials and some due to voter ignorance. However, none of those problems had any significant impact on the race. No massive numbers of delegates would have switched from Hillary to Bernie and thus the dynamics and outcome of the race would no have changed.

Again, no one is denying that problems didn't exist. However, the extent of the problems' impact on the race is being substantially overstated by some of Bernie's supporters. The problems may make an easy excuse, especially since most people are unable to quantify their effect; but they had a negligible effect on the elections. They certainly would not have pushed Clinton from the race months ago. People need to come to grips with that reality.

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
48. You have no clue what he meant by revolution
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 09:44 AM
Jun 2016

Remember the Reagan Revolution?....That was a political revolution in which a party pressed for fundamental changes in direction and succeeded.

We need a similar revolution in the opposite direction.

lunamagica

(9,967 posts)
7. K&R. I was against this type of post tonight, but since he did not conceed, and the way Hillary was
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 02:16 AM
Jun 2016

booed by his crowd, I've changed my mind.

BRING IT ON!

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
8. Not only did he NOT concede, he stood there encouraging his fanatic
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 02:21 AM
Jun 2016

followers to boo the very name of Hillary.

He did not even congratulate her for winning the majority of PLEDGED delegates, much less mark the historic nature of her victory.

What a classless schmuck.

ancianita

(36,023 posts)
61. None of you here respect the process of finishing. the. primary. You disrespect the rules
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 09:56 AM
Jun 2016

of the voting system through your mindless gloating and snide derisions and negative hit pieces.

Celebrate without casting shade.

Shallow demands for premature respect, and mean spirited judgments about millions in your own party are not classy.

Let the man and party supporters get on with forcing your candidate to face the reality of changing party structure to represent the interests of the 99%, knowing that it's for your benefit.

Think you yourselves can show that kind of class?

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
69. Codswallop...bullpucky...claptrap...blatherskite...hogwash...etc.
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 10:07 AM
Jun 2016
You disrespect the rules of the voting system through your mindless gloating and snide derisions and negative hit pieces.


How about the basic rules of courtesy and comity in the political arena? Completely flouted by your fearless leader.

ancianita

(36,023 posts)
77. Republican namecalling. Typical of the shallow. Name ONE example of flouting, discourtesy.
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 10:32 AM
Jun 2016

It's not a fucking tea party. It's a presidential PRIMARY.

9 hides in 90 days.

That tells everyone here a lot about how you support fellow Democrats.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
81. Feel free to peruse the evidence of your fellows' "mommy, mommy", run-to-teacher
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 10:48 AM
Jun 2016

mentality that is on display in those bogus hides.

No profanity, no personal insults--just pertinent critiques of The Sainted One. Unbearable for the truly devoted.

As for fellow Democrats, I support them fully.

Libertarians, anarchists, revolutionary socialists, opportunistic independents?? Not so much.

ancianita

(36,023 posts)
83. I've served hundreds of juries, still with a 100% chance of serving. I know how good the system
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 10:58 AM
Jun 2016

is, and how 'hide' people flip from bully to victim over their hides.

You display all the worst behaviors of a party that needs to unite.

Back off with the cheap mean girl act and let the process unfold until November.

Get over yourself. Try to be informative and helpful rather than snarky.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
84. Thanks for the unsolicited advice. You might want to take some of it yourself.
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 11:02 AM
Jun 2016

Do you always butt in with unnecessary hecktoring, or is today special?

redstateblues

(10,565 posts)
102. With BSS stacked juries hides are given for
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 12:00 AM
Jun 2016

Daring to say anything negative about old what's his name.

WhiteTara

(29,703 posts)
75. The primary is over. When the required number of delegates
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 10:29 AM
Jun 2016

is reached, the primary is over. You need to learn the rules. I'm not "casting shade" but the primary is over. We need to focus on the real opponent.

Beacool

(30,247 posts)
13. Nothing in that article surprises me.
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 02:58 AM
Jun 2016

He's always been an ideologue, his way or the highway. The talking heads are mentioning the difference between both speeches tonight. Hillary made history, yet she was classy enough to devote a few minutes of her speech to Sanders. Both she and her supporters were gracious. What a difference when it came to his speech and the response it got from his supporters when Hillary's name was mentioned.

How relevant he remains going forth will depend on what he'll do in the general election to help the party, the nominee and the down ticket candidates.

Demsrule86

(68,543 posts)
57. It is what was there.
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 09:54 AM
Jun 2016

What case can he make to the Supers? He lost California by double digits...and cherry picked polls won't work. I doubt he can deliver his voters and I would give him what he already has and nothing more. If he thinks he will be VP or pick a VP...it won't happen...he berned his bridges.

ancianita

(36,023 posts)
65. Vengeful, my ass. You haven't shown that you know anything about him but what
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 10:00 AM
Jun 2016

confirms your own shallow judgment about what this party should become.

Your posts are cheap hits full of hearsay.

You're so classless.

The worst kind of winner.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
71. Politico is hearsay now? Who knew?
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 10:13 AM
Jun 2016

Winner, shwinner...the Bern's character flaws are there on full display, win, lose or draw.

As for "classnessless", you would know about that.

 

rjsquirrel

(4,762 posts)
105. Goes with the territory when your candidate is
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 12:22 AM
Jun 2016

the worst kind of loser: a sore one.

I agree, he is a bitter man making threats he can't cash anyway. Cut his committee assignments.

 

baldguy

(36,649 posts)
18. He makes emotional knee-jerk decisions based upon incomplete or deliberately misleading information.
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 07:58 AM
Jun 2016

How is he different from Trump?

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
19. As I observed in another thread:
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 08:01 AM
Jun 2016
Although of opposite political persuasions, he and the Talking Yam have disturbingly similar characters.
 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
23. "Passing the hot potato" as the house and stove are falling down around them.
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 08:32 AM
Jun 2016

Tad Devine may never live this debacle down.

I think he can pack up his "campaign play books" and head for forced retirement.

wildeyed

(11,243 posts)
40. Casca, the social networking guy, threw him ALL the way under the bus.
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 09:30 AM
Jun 2016


They are attempting to exit the sinking ship with reputations intact, hoping to get jobs with another campaign. If Sanders goes to the convention after the losses last night, it makes them all look so bad. There is losing and there is losing ugly. Clinton was not pretty herself in 2008, but she dialed it back at the last moment. Not sure if Sanders has the self-discipline for that.
 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
66. ^^^This!^^^
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 10:02 AM
Jun 2016
Clinton was not pretty herself in 2008, but she dialed it back at the last moment. Not sure if Sanders has the self-discipline for that.


Nor, the intelligence, I might add.

Stuckinthebush

(10,844 posts)
22. I was stunned
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 08:30 AM
Jun 2016

Political fights are normal. At the end usually all candidates come together for the greater good. I really thought he would do that last night. I have no words but...stunned.

As Salon points out, his belligerence is an "act of political narcissism".

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
24. The sheer hubris and self-delusion on display were indeed stunning.
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 08:40 AM
Jun 2016

And, his wife very irresponsibly goaded him on in his lunacy. "They're still with you..."

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
28. She's one of those "let's you and him fight" sorts.
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 08:52 AM
Jun 2016

It gives her a sense of power to be able to influence him, especially to "stick it to the man".

I'm convinced that she's the real "power behind the throne", and is the truly ambitious one in the partnership.

He was pretty much a wanna-be until she helped him launch his state-wide political career.

Nasty in-fighter and back-stabber, from observing her in her surrogate role.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
34. Me, too. I was practically fist-pumping the air as I read it.
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 09:04 AM
Jun 2016

As Hillary would say: "He is tempermentally UNFIT to be the Commander-in-Chief."

brooklynite

(94,501 posts)
39. This part really says something...
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 09:27 AM
Jun 2016

Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid’s call was part advice, part asking a favor, urging Sanders to use his now massive email list to help Democratic Senate candidates. Russ Feingold in Wisconsin was the most obvious prospect, and Reid wanted to make introductions to Iowa’s Patty Judge and North Carolina’s Deborah Ross—to help Democrats win the majority, but also to give Sanders allies in making himself the leader of the Senate progressives come next year.

Reid, according to people familiar with the conversation, ended the discussion thinking Sanders was on board. He backed Feingold. But that’s the last anyone heard.

Word got back to Reid’s team that Weaver had nixed the idea, ruling out backing anyone who hadn’t endorsed Sanders. Weaver says it’s because the Senate hopefuls had to get in line for Sanders’ support behind top backers like Gabbard and Rep. Raúl Grijalva (D-Ariz.)—though neither has a competitive race this year.

Sanders never followed up himself.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/06/bernie-sanders-campaign-last-days-224041#ixzz4AzhTdnfv

robbedvoter

(28,290 posts)
60. I saw "Weaver" more than Devine (see the debate negotiation)
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 09:55 AM
Jun 2016

They both love the attention, so, a collaborative work

Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
67. Tad Devine's career depends on him coming away from this campaign with his rep intact.
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 10:03 AM
Jun 2016

It may have been his way to get out a message that those bad decisions that hurt Sanders were Sanders own idea.

Renew Deal

(81,855 posts)
73. Devine is very experienced at this level
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 10:26 AM
Jun 2016

So he knew what to do. Devine has still never had a high profile role on a winning presidential campaign.

 

Trust Buster

(7,299 posts)
80. The part of the article that talked about Sherrod Brown did not appear in the OP.
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 10:40 AM
Jun 2016

That was the part that raised my eyebrows. Specifically, when Brown endorsed Hillary, Sanders decided to do all that he could do to prevent his fellow progressive and close ally in the Senate from being offered the V.P spot on a Clinton ticket.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
82. Outsider...vindictive...hates the democratic party...wants to settle scores
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 10:52 AM
Jun 2016

Sounds just like the creep Hillary will defeat in the general huh?

hopemountain

(3,919 posts)
108. not bitter! pissed at the level of deception and
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 01:34 AM
Jun 2016

deceit. but other than that (!) most of us are fired up & ready to go to the contested convention to support bernie. see you there!

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