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He's going to Philly to fight for justice but he didn't say he's fighting for the nomination (Original Post) hill2016 Jun 2016 OP
I think it FINALLY sunk in tonight ... NanceGreggs Jun 2016 #1
He is trying lancer78 Jun 2016 #2
I think you're right and it's good in some ways and shitty in others bettyellen Jun 2016 #3
I think you're right. nt DesertRat Jun 2016 #4
He Said He Was Fight for Votes and Delegates... TomCADem Jun 2016 #5
yeah hill2016 Jun 2016 #6
No, he is going to Philly just to fight. nt Jitter65 Jun 2016 #7
That's not what he said in tonight's speech. HarmonyRockets Jun 2016 #8
Whatever he wants to do PepperHarlan Jun 2016 #9
He should have been more clear. Seems many of hos supporters too it as him saying lunamagica Jun 2016 #10
He is doing the right thing. mylye2222 Jun 2016 #11
That's my interpretation Ken Burch Jun 2016 #12
I agree. herding cats Jun 2016 #13
Anyone really paying attention knows BS has been realmirage Jun 2016 #14
thats right, lobbyist SGs should be banned larkrake Jun 2016 #15
I did notice that as well. Maru Kitteh Jun 2016 #16


(27,813 posts)
1. I think it FINALLY sunk in tonight ...
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 01:17 AM
Jun 2016

... that the nomination is lost - by whatever means he thought he still had a chance to win it.

His only path left (in his mind) was flipping the SDs based on a BIG California win - and it's not happening.



(1,495 posts)
2. He is trying
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 01:22 AM
Jun 2016

to get HRC more committed to progressive values his supporters want. It would be a good move for her.

Instead of promising third-way values that will probably never happen with the current congressional makeup, tell people you will fight like hell for progressive values that even though they won't happen either, at least people will see your honesty and passion.

Its late, I know I am not making much sense in what I am trying to say.


(17,342 posts)
5. He Said He Was Fight for Votes and Delegates...
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 01:25 AM
Jun 2016

...and a little justice would not hurt, but he definitely said he would be fighting for votes and delegates through DC.



(1,772 posts)
6. yeah
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 01:30 AM
Jun 2016

but that could be for greater influence on the platform/convention. As much leverage as possible



(124 posts)
9. Whatever he wants to do
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 01:33 AM
Jun 2016

But Cornel West having anything to do with the platform or a speaking role at the convention is a non starter. Lest we forget who is still running the show and I'm sure he has not forgotten or forgiven West's slurs.

Outside of that I hope Bernie and his supporters are made to feel welcomed and a part of the process. Outside of West, whatever they want.


(9,967 posts)
10. He should have been more clear. Seems many of hos supporters too it as him saying
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 01:34 AM
Jun 2016

he has a path to the nomination

herding cats

(19,407 posts)
13. I agree.
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 02:07 AM
Jun 2016

Seriously, what's wrong with people here? No one expected him to concede tonight. Really, not a single person in the know did. That's not how you do things. Ever!

It's bad form to crap on your supporters like that. Not to mention really stupid if you expect them to respect you and get behind your guidance in the future.

Let's give Bernie some room to work things out, and see how things shake out, ok?

His supporters are hurting tonight, it's all fresh and raw to a lot of them. Not everyone fully understood the dynamics before tonight. A little respect would go a long way.

i realize respect has zero to do the couple of handfuls of people here on both sides, who seem to want to make it personal and be mean to each other. Frankly, all of you make DU suck when you act like that. You folks need to stop your crap. You're just making yourselves look either petty or foolish at this point.

It's done. My congratulations or condolences, depending on your candidate. If you're a decent person, I can respect your joy, or sorrow with empathy. I've been in both of your shoes before. I get it. Really, I do.

If your one of those couple of handfuls on both sides who want to keep fighting, it's time for you to stop being jerks and focus on November. Most of the rest of us are ready to move on and work on defeating Trump.



(2,117 posts)
14. Anyone really paying attention knows BS has been
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 02:54 AM
Jun 2016

fighting only to influence the platform, not win with SDs. How can anyone think Sanders is dumb enough to think he could use SDs to override the people? This is old style politics and negotiation. You say all kinds of wild shit to increase your leverage in the negotiations, then you make nice when it's finally all over and you've gotten as much as you can. He just wants to leave his mark on the Party. The speech he gave tonight reflects that strategy. He didn't attack Hillary. He focused on what he wants for the country and the party. The fight at the convention he mentioned is over the platform. Not the nomination. Anyone who would think Sanders really wants to use SDs to override the will of the people must think Sanders is insane. He isn't. He's just trying to get leverage.

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