2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumIt only took 240 years or so and 31 Million little tiny cracks to break the glass ceiling.
But we have done it!
It will be shattered into millions of more pieces in November!
Go Hillary!
LexVegas
(6,041 posts)stonecutter357
(12,694 posts)marions ghost
(19,841 posts)I have wanted a woman to be president for a very long time, but Hillary Clinton's presidency would be a pyrrhic victory. A sad day because of what she represents.
"A Pyrrhic victory is a victory that inflicts such a devastating toll on the victor that it is tantamount to defeat. Someone who wins a Pyrrhic victory has been victorious in some way. However, the heavy toll negates any sense of achievement or profit. Another term for this would be "hollow victory".
Brickbat
(19,339 posts)As a woman, I'm celebrating the hell out of this day. But there's obviously more work to be done. You can shit on the accomplishment, but it doesn't change the symbolism for millions of women and girls.
marions ghost
(19,841 posts)and as a lifelong feminist it makes me sad. Because it is based on the wrong assumption that the first woman president can only do as bad or worse than her male predecessors (ie. "safe" .
I am very worried about the future for all the young women and girls of today. And I'm worried for the young men and boys as well. Symbolic victories are not all that matter. We all will have to live with the consequences of a sadly symbolic victory. That doesn't even help Hillary Clinton in the end.
stonecutter357
(12,694 posts)niyad
(113,205 posts)we are so far behind the rest of the civilized world when it comes to women in political office.
imagine2015
(2,054 posts)Yippee!
We might have a enormously rich white privileged women running for President against Trump!
niyad
(113,205 posts)who does amazing things for women's and children's rights around the world (and who is far more popular around the world than the vitriol on this board indicates)
but, do keep trying.
glowing
(12,233 posts)Higher when she starts more intervention wars or shoot, just hits Iran. Woman loves war! Loves manipulating the scenes. I think she's a sociopath; certainly a narcissist. As a woman, she makes me absolutely sick to my stomach. Women and men do normally think and act differently. Having a woman should make an easy sell for less war, more access to great education for free, making work pay since many women are having to work for their family's survival and a raise is needed, reall affordable access or single payer health care... When she acts/ runs/ speaks all tough like "male" politicians and pushes for a "male" society agenda by taking the political donations of the establishment (which are all old white men), then she does nothing for me. In this case, shocking I know, Bernie is the feminist better for women and their families!
I'm also not stupid. I know Hillary has "won" the nomination. Great, good for her. I'll be damned if I work or even speak in favor of voting (and at this point may not vote for her). Does anyone now know anyone who admits to voting for Bush? Nope, I don't. I have a very strange feeling many won't admit to it either if her talk about more military intervention is her idea for saving face on the economy that is about to hit another recession.
niyad
(113,205 posts)glowing
(12,233 posts)I'll keep on working on progressive issues like I always have. So yes, I will keep trying to make things better. I suppose if I got an amazing job offer for work in Europe somewhere, I'd jump at a minutes notice. I have very fond memories.
bigtree
(85,984 posts)Lucinda
(31,170 posts)MinnesotaRob
(53 posts)Surely it's a victory, even a milestone, but the war is far from won.
Avalux
(35,015 posts)She'll do whatever she's told to do. No real accomplishment for women.
hamsterjill
(15,220 posts)Go, Hillary. I have waited a long time for this moment!
I am woman. Hear me roar!!!!
BreakfastClub
(765 posts)of what happened last night and there's much more to come. I can't wait to see all the shattered glass in November!