TDBeast: Sanders risks looking like one of those holdout Japanese.. unaware the war ended ages ago.

[DCBob]

In California, as results came in with tantalizing slowness and pollsters hesitated to make a call despite what ultimately became a decisive victory for Clinton, Sanders appeared before supporters in Santa Monica late Tuesday night to declare “the struggle continues.”

Fresh off the phone with President Barack Obama, who’d called both candidates to congratulate them on “inspiring campaigns that have energized Democrats,” Sanders sought to reassure his folks and the rest of the country that, “We will not allow right-wing Republicans to control our government and that is especially true with Donald Trump as a candidate.” And in case anyone missed the point: “We will not allow Donald Trump to become president of the United States.”

But Sanders, as ever, presented himself as a man with a mission, a man leading a movement: “We understand that our mission is not just beating Trump, it is transforming our country.” Which led him to his boilerplate attack on billionaires and inequality, and, well, nary a kind word for his rival. When he allowed that he’d received a “gracious” call from Clinton, her name triggered nasty boos.

“Next Tuesday we continue the fight, in the last primary, in Washington, D.C.,” Sanders concluded to hearty applause from the enraptured young supporters holding up signs reading, “A Future to Believe In.”

For almost anyone not part of the rapture, Sanders still risks looking like one of those holdout Japanese on some godforsaken island, unaware that their war ended ages ago.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/06/08/torturous-primaries-crown-hillary-clinton-at-last-so-why-won-t-bernie-concede.html

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There doesnt appear to be any rational reason for Bernie to continue his "lost war". It almost appears he is doing it for spite.

[geek tragedy]

1. give Bernie his space.

he's climbing down, just gonna take him some time.

he's stopped attacking, that's the huge first step.

[DCBob]

3. Did he stop attacking?

I didnt hear his speech last night. All I heard was that the fight would go on and he didnt congratulate Hillary.

[geek tragedy]

4. he said one mildly positive thing--that he congratulated her and

they had a gracious conversation. the crowd booed, but wevs.

[DCBob]

5. I dont entirely trust him.

He seems awfully angry and bitter like he doesnt really care what negative impact he is having.

[bigwillq]

10. I don't entirely trust Hillary

But I think, at the end of the day, she's trying to do the right thing.

Same for Bernie.

You don't have to trust or like Bernie, and I don't have to trust or like Hillary, but I feel both are trying to make this country better in their own way.

[DCBob]

14. There are few indications Bernie is "trying to do the right thing".

In fact he isnt doing the right thing at this very moment... unless he is preparing his speech to drop out.

[bigwillq]

16. He may be preparing that speech.

DU is giving folks on a message board until June 16 to "concede". The least we can do is let the runner-up take that some time to bow out.

[DCBob]

18. I hope so.

[democrattotheend]

8. He did congratulate her

And I don't believe he criticized her at all. It wasn't the glowing words Hillary gave Obama in her last primary night speech in 2008, but Hillary's speech sounded more like a victory speech than a concession.

I kind of agree with this article though. I salute Bernie for seeing it through to the end and not giving voters in DC the short shrift, but I don't see the point of taking it to the convention.

[DCBob]

9. Well at least he did that.

Thanks.

[charlespercydemocrat]

2. Right

He has the right to stay in,

[merrily]

6. Oooo. Risk! As if Bernie cares what The Daily Beast thinks he looks like?

These article get sillier by the day. Maybe the hour.

[DCBob]

7. That whats concerns me.. Bernie doesnt care what negative impact he is having.

[merrily]

12. Moved the goalpost there a bit, didncha, DC?

Right into the bull puckie zone.

[DCBob]

15. That's an odd comment.

I think you are confused.

[merrily]

19. Nope. Not odd. I posted that he did not care how he looked to the Daily Beast.

You pretended to agree to agree with me, but your post was that he didn't care how much damage he did. That was (a) moving the goal post from what I posted and (b) false, aka bull puckies.

That should not have been impossible, or even hard, for you to follow. I'm not the one who seems confused.

[DCBob]

20. This is a discussion forum... the discussion sometimes changes a bit during the discussion.

Does that surprise you?

[merrily]

21. Um, We were not having a long discussion. I made one post. Your one reply moved the goalpost while

pretending to agree. My very next reply commented that you moved the goalpost. Rather than own it, you claimed I seemed confused.

This is not rocket science. Not even close.

If you can't own something, you'd look better if you just drop it. Trying to make yourself right about it only makes it sillier.

[DCBob]

22. Never mind... not worth the effort.

[merrily]

24. Yet worth another reply.

[AntiBank]

39. wooot

[wyldwolf]

11. that was one of my favorite episodes of Gilligan's Island!

[aikoaiko]

13. Lots of candidates say they are in it until the end and won't give up.

Bernie is showing us what it looks like to fight to the end even if he can to win.

Yes it is terribly inconvenient for the presumptive nominee.

And it reveals the problems of super delegates and other party rules and conventions.

But ultimately it is a good thing for Bernie to challenge convention and show that a hippy liberal can fight a behemoth like the HRC machine. This is for others who will do battle against against mainstream presumed candidates.

His CA speech was a prelude to conceding.

[DCBob]

17. I understand he is trying to make a statement and fight against the "establishment" but..

its over.. he did that.. he proved he could be a tough candidate but its time to focus on the bigger issue of keeping Trump out of the White House.

[ILikeTurtles2]

23. Hiroo Onoda, a WW2 Japanese soldier, held out until 1974. 30 years.

Hirō Onoda (小野田 寛郎 Onoda Hirō?, March 19, 1922 – January 16, 2014) was an Imperial Japanese Army intelligence officer who fought in World War II and was a Japanese holdout who did not surrender in 1945. After Onoda spent nearly 30 years holding out in the Philippines, his former commander traveled from Japan to personally issue orders relieving him from duty in 1974.[1][2] He held the rank of second lieutenant in the Imperial Japanese Army.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hiroo_Onoda

[DCBob]

25. We need to find someone to issue orders to Sanders "relieving him from duty".

[Eric J in MN]

26. On Tuesday, there is one last primary.

The Daily Beast constantly smears Bernie Sanders. Chelsea Clinton is on the Board of Directors.

[tonyt53]

27. Bernie's chances of winning DC? He will be lucky to get 25%.

[Eric J in MN]

29. If he can get one more delegate while losing DC

...then he wants that delegate in case a Democratic Platform issue has a floor vote.

[DCBob]

28. Bernie is going to get slaughtered on Tuesday. DC is Clinton territory.

Huge AA population.. plus folks here think very highly of the Clintons.

Not sure what point Bernie is going to make by losing something like 80-20 here.

[Eric J in MN]

32. I still want Sanders to spread his message in DC. NT

NT

[Bluenorthwest]

30. It took Clinton four days after Obama clenched the nomination to concede. But Bernie is already

a crazed enemy soldier the next morning? It's that two sets of rules thing that is astonishing to me. No candidate or group of supporters should be more prepared for or understanding of the ending stages of a primary contest than Hillary and her supporters. They have been in the shoes of their rival but lack empathy nonetheless. I find that to be very strange.

[DCBob]

31. I was an Obama supporter and I was furious with her for dragging it to the convention.

But I forgave it all when she gave a wonderful endorsement.

[Bluenorthwest]

35. And yet Bernie gets 18 hours and he's called an enemy combatant. To me that's odd stuff.

I have to tell you, I admired Clinton for sticking to it in 08. That's what you are supposed to do in politics for your own interests and for mine. Holding on prior to concession is far better than phoning GW Bush up an hour in to concede Al Gore style. There is no clock to beat save for the convention. I see no reason not to let it shake itself out. The pushing creates the look of impropriety and it's not worth it. It's not.

If Hillary got four days, Bernie should get four days. Personally I think giving up too late is better than folding too early. Way, way better.

[DCBob]

37. Not an enemy combatant.. just clueless and confused and excessively committed.

[Demsrule86]

41. She conceded and endorsed way before the convention

And nominated him by acclamation.

[Eric J in MN]

33. +1 (NT)

NT

[Orsino]

34. Another writer who doesn't understand what goes on a a convention.

Or who pretends not to understand.

[jcgoldie]

36. Awesome analogy! nt

[enid602]

38. bern

I think after a month he'll more resemble the 'Maytag Repaiman.'

[DCBob]

40. LOL..

[Number23]

42. A painfully mocking and true analogy. Damn.