2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumNew York Times: Hillary Clinton Made History, but Bernie Sanders Stubbornly Ignored It*
*Note to jury: this is an op-ed in the New York Times.
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By MICHAEL BARBARO and YAMICHE ALCINDORJUNE 8, 2016
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In a speech of striking stubbornness, he ignored the history-making achievement of his Democratic rival, Hillary Clinton, who became the first woman in American history to clinch the presidential nomination of a major political party.
Mr. Sanders waited until 15 minutes into his speech to utter Mrs. Clintons name. He referred, almost in passing, to a telephone conversation in which he had congratulated her on her victories. At that, the crowd of more than 3,000 inside an aging airport hangar booed loudly. Mr. Sanders did little to discourage them.
Tuesday was, undeniably, Mrs. Clintons night, a milestone for women in politics and civic life 95 years after the 19th Amendment guaranteed their right to vote.
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At almost every turn, he was grudging toward Mrs. Clinton, passing up a chance to issue the kind of lengthy salute that many, in and out of the Democratic Party, had expected and craved.
Its a blown opportunity to build bridges that are going to be extremely important in the fall, said David Gergen, an adviser to four presidents, both Democratic and Republican. He worried that Mr. Sanders was becoming a grumpy old man.
Read more: http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/09/us/politics/bernie-sanders-campaign.html?_r=0
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)I would love to see a woman in office, he added. But I do not want to see Hillary Clinton in office, because she has no honor.
Should Mr. Sanders drop out, he said, he was prepared to vote for Mr. Trump.
Station to Station
(53 posts)A bigoted, hateful racist. I'll remember that name, in the unlikely event his filmmaking career goes anywhere.
niyad
(113,232 posts)CrowCityDem
(2,348 posts)uponit7771
(90,335 posts)... was at the beginning of the primary
Orsino
(37,428 posts)Paying attention to history is why Sanders decided so late in his career to run for president. The movement is several years old, and has its first successful candidate on the national stage. Instead, the party is nominating a candidate whose agenda is pretty much the same as our current president's, with extra doses of Wall Street and hawkishness.
Politics as usual would be ignoring history. Let's see what our presumptive nominee manages to achieve with the delegates Sanders is bringing to Philly. Will our platform look any different this years, or will she turn her back on change?
Amimnoch
(4,558 posts)Of the last century he's been:
One of the most popular.
One of the greatest achievers.
Was the first of just about any minority group to make it to the highest office we have.
all of this AND minimized and marginalized a Republican Majority that held both chambers of congress for most of his 2 terms.
Hillary Clinton embraced this highly popular president, Sanders and his surrogates.. not so much. Perhaps.. just perhaps.. the attacks on him and his character is what really kept Bernie from making the win?
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(107,881 posts)Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)boston bean
(36,220 posts)floppyboo
(2,461 posts)this 'moment' was ruined as a special event months ago by all the supporters and MSM saying it was over. Make your bed and lie in it, as my elders said.
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)I would love to see a woman in office, he added. But I do not want to see Hillary Clinton in office, because she has no honor.
Should Mr. Sanders drop out, he said, he was prepared to vote for Mr. Trump.
Amid chants of Bernie or Bust and loud boos as election results rolled in, Alison Bacon, an actress living in Los Angeles, assailed Mrs. Clinton for having proclaimed victory before the Democratic Party had formally bestowed it on her at the convention.
I think its absolutely unjust, undemocratic, un-American, she said. What kind of example is that setting?
TwilightZone
(25,456 posts)That's nearly word-for-word the nonsense posted around here.
Station to Station
(53 posts)The notion that it's "undemocratic" to declare victory before the convention as though it doesn't happen in every single election is just absurd. It is unsettling that people who pay no attention whatsoever have the ability to shape a country; the ignorance equals the most backward Republican stalwart, just in a different way.
That doesn't apply to all or even a large percentage of Bernie supporters, by the way; even the best candidates will attract a small fringe of idiots, and there is indeed something strikingly idiotic about those comments.
TwilightZone
(25,456 posts)But there's a difference between not knowing how the process works due to lack of experience and pleading ignorance or intentionally refusing to learn anything about it that might interrupt the narrative. Unfortunately, we seem to get a lot of the latter. Some seem to almost revel in not understanding how any of this works.
mcar
(42,298 posts)Raastan
(266 posts)Dean said it well, Sanders needs to be a leader and suck it up....
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)His historical reputation will be forever besmirched.
sperk49
(2 posts)Presumptive Democratic Nominee is under FBI investigation and her supporters stubbornly ignore it.
snooper2
(30,151 posts)NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)... history books in the future will not overlook that small detail.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)audience.
I had no problem with him not endorsing tonight, or whatever. His people need to be let down slowly.
larkrake
(1,674 posts)of coarse they booed, so did Hills audience when Bernie was mentioned. What tripe this article is.
The problems in this country are from both Clinton's policies- you expect any of us to cheerlead someone like that? Not going to happen. only the "women" voters are going to be happy to push that button in the voting booth, the rest feel they have no choice.
TwilightZone
(25,456 posts)Actually, no. Watch it again.
Or for the first time, for that matter.
auntpurl
(4,311 posts)Hillary's joyous supporters CHEERED when she mentioned Bernie.
lunamagica
(9,967 posts)and so was Hillary. They cheered and applauded when she talked about him.
Sanders and his crowd? Petty and classless
anigbrowl
(13,889 posts)LexVegas
(6,050 posts)MineralMan
(146,284 posts)Hillary's audience cheered when she thanked Bernie. I saw it live. I heard it clearly.
I also saw Bernie's speech this morning. I heard the boos.
It's all very clear and audible.
Beacool
(30,247 posts)Hillary had just achieved what no other woman had achieved in this country, she became the first woman to be the presumptive nominee of a major political party. Yet, she found time to be gracious and speak of Sanders in glowing terms. She set the example and those in attendance cheered at the mention of his name.
Sanders, by contrast, never spoke of the historical significance of Hillary's win and promised to take it all the way to the convention. His supporters followed his sour lead and booed Hillary.
Poor form and no class, let alone the grace and common courtesy that a true leader needed to exhibit.
tonyt53
(5,737 posts)ancianita
(36,017 posts)tonyt53
(5,737 posts)Those things he talks about? They are issues that Democrats have been work for a lot longer than Bernie has been talking about them.
RoccoR5955
(12,471 posts)Since the time when she was a Goldwater Girl!
jcgoldie
(11,627 posts)I'm a basketball fan and I keep envisioning a postgame press conference in which the losing coach vows to "fight on." Uhm coach Bernie, the games over... you lost. Not until I say so it isn't!