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SheenaR

(2,052 posts)
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 03:44 PM Jun 2016

Dismiss what Senator Sanders has Accomplished Over the Last Year if You Wish

But in the history of our Party, and since we began the Primary process, only two candidates received have ever received more votes than Bernie Sanders and they are President Obama and Secretary Clinton.

Not Carter or Kennedy, not Mondale, Not Dukakis, Not Clinton, Not Gore, Not Kerry.

The fact that a Septuagenarian Socialist Jew from Vermont achieved this demands at the very least some recognition and some respect for a battle well fought.

There are lots of pretend unity posts today. I ask that those on both sides take a minute to acknowledge a great campaign which got many off the sidelines to vote in our Primaries including me, who gave up on the process after being personally burnt by John Edwards.

It was not enough. Secretary Clinton will be the Democratic nominee. Congrats to her and her supporters, both those who are gracious and those who have so far lacked it. Congrats nonetheless.

But let us not dismiss the spirited efforts of those who worked hard for the Senator and of the Senator himself. You may still hold ill feelings toward him, you may not like him. I take this time to pay tribute to a lifelong public servant and a man I admire greatly on a worthy Primary campaign. I hope we have not heard the last from him.

Cheers

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Dismiss what Senator Sanders has Accomplished Over the Last Year if You Wish (Original Post) SheenaR Jun 2016 OP
Im not dismissing him MFM008 Jun 2016 #1
accepting and acknowledging reality are personal plusses. when the loser does that he gains strength msongs Jun 2016 #2
Sometimes holding on to one's beliefs and intergity despite the reality, pangaia Jun 2016 #5
Always... I'd change that to always. n/t JimDandy Jun 2016 #7
there is more than one path to the same goal nt msongs Jun 2016 #13
A thousand recs. You are too polite for me though. These fake unity posters can fuck off. dinkytron Jun 2016 #3
Berners did work hard. I'll take fake unity gestures over the snark and flog for now. ancianita Jun 2016 #4
Agreed. Bernie ran a great campaign. What's not to like about Bernie. He is going to OregonBlue Jun 2016 #6
He received votes, yes, but is that really an end in itself? randome Jun 2016 #8
No, it's not. So it's beyond stupid for people to be saying he should concede now. Schema Thing Jun 2016 #16
If it wouldn't take took long, I'd go find one of Hortensis Jun 2016 #9
The country also has significantly more people than when Carter, Mondale, etc were running. CrowCityDem Jun 2016 #10
Yes and no SheenaR Jun 2016 #11
He's achieved a lot Txbluedog Jun 2016 #12
Why would you dismiss them as "pretend" unity posts? auntpurl Jun 2016 #14
My mother would always say SheenaR Jun 2016 #17
over ten million votes for a 'protest' candidate is indeed a spectacular accomplishment. geek tragedy Jun 2016 #15
I'm only seeing about 1/3 of the posts in this thread so I'm guessing that many want to dismiss? GreatGazoo Jun 2016 #18

msongs

(67,394 posts)
2. accepting and acknowledging reality are personal plusses. when the loser does that he gains strength
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 03:47 PM
Jun 2016

to promote his agenda in the real world

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
5. Sometimes holding on to one's beliefs and intergity despite the reality,
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 03:53 PM
Jun 2016

or the seeming reality, is the more noble path.

OregonBlue

(7,754 posts)
6. Agreed. Bernie ran a great campaign. What's not to like about Bernie. He is going to
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 03:56 PM
Jun 2016

have a lot of influence on the party because he proved that there is a huge percentage of the Democratic Party who wants to move away from the DNC and on to a true Progressive agenda.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
8. He received votes, yes, but is that really an end in itself?
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 04:00 PM
Jun 2016

It reminds me of a friend who once said he admired Tom Petty because he was still out on stage and rockin' and rollin', and I said, "Dude, you admire him because he's old?"

Same thing with Sanders. Thus far, his campaign has borne little fruit. He may have helped push Clinton further left -and more power to that objective- but he's going to squander what remaining opportunity he has if he doesn't start working with others better.

I wonder if he's learned anything from this time. And I'd like to hear what others might say he learned. Positive things.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Stop looking for heroes. BE one.[/center][/font][hr]

Schema Thing

(10,283 posts)
16. No, it's not. So it's beyond stupid for people to be saying he should concede now.
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 06:14 PM
Jun 2016


That would be saying "winning the presidency is all this was ever about". Fuck that noise... fight for every progressive concession you can extract, Bernie.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
9. If it wouldn't take took long, I'd go find one of
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 04:07 PM
Jun 2016

the many posts I've made about how Sanders has energized the party and made everyone aware that there is great support for leftward movement and pushes for greater change than was previously thought supported.

The unity posts aren't pretend, in any case. That's a great difference between people.

Some of the more passionate Bernie progressive regard regular Democratic progressives who don't agree with them as corrupt enemies who must be defeated. Like Bernie himself, apparently. Of course many of those don't believe messages of unity.

Whereas most mainstream progressive Democrats tend to regard Bernie's progressives who don't agree with them as anything from normal Democrats who just prefer the other candidate, to people carried away by passion now but probably fine later, to irredeemable fools. So for them, fine. Here's a clue: SBSers presumably all have the vote, and that's what matters. Unity at the polls.

SheenaR

(2,052 posts)
11. Yes and no
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 04:26 PM
Jun 2016

There were more people in 2016 than 2008, yet more people voted in 08

There were more people in 2000 than 1992, yet more people voted in 92

There were more people in 1992 than 1988, yet more people voted in 88

There were more people in 1984 than 1980, yet more people voted in 80


The achievement is noteworthy, regardless of the time it took place. If we had 2008 turnout, you are likely looking at over 14 million for Sanders.

 

Txbluedog

(1,128 posts)
12. He's achieved a lot
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 04:54 PM
Jun 2016

And now is the time for him to focus on how he can use that achievement to advance his progressive agenda, not squander it on the dem nomination, which is truly lost to him

auntpurl

(4,311 posts)
14. Why would you dismiss them as "pretend" unity posts?
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 05:16 PM
Jun 2016

I can only speak for my OP, but I assure you it was totally sincere. I also challenge you to find a post of mine that was ever uncivil or rude or cruel.

Dismissing people who are trying to extend an olive branch by accusing them of being insincere is counterproductive.

Congratulations to Senator Sanders for a hard-fought campaign.

SheenaR

(2,052 posts)
17. My mother would always say
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 07:22 PM
Jun 2016

If you have nothing to worry about, why the guilty conscience.

I wasn't addressing "auntpurl".

I was addressing those who have been literally verbally abusive during the process who now want to shake hands and be pals.

I apologize if you felt lumped in and it wasn't my intention

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
15. over ten million votes for a 'protest' candidate is indeed a spectacular accomplishment.
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 05:25 PM
Jun 2016

it certainly does not all have to be for nothing, but that depends on him now.

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