Why are Hillary supporters in attack mode?

[ThinkCritically]

This discussion thread was locked as off-topic by one_voice (a host of the 2016 Postmortem forum).

Makes no sense. Are you trying to push people away from voting for her? Many Bernie supporters already jumped on board and are willing to work with Hillary and vote for her in November but you people just keep on pushing buttons. If I hear another uncalled nasty thing about Bernie supporters on this website, I'm out of here. It's past ridiculous now. Take your win and be happy and be an adult about it and we will do whats right and vote for her.

[Tarc]

1. There are no Hillary supporters in "attack mode"

There are a few Sanders ppl that seem hellbent on antagonizing everyone here with continued snark, though...Emailgate, "Hillary and Donald once had a picture together!", and so on, though.

These users seem to be FFR'ing themselves one by one between last night and tonight though.

[rock]

12. +1

Correct.

[notadmblnd]

22. It's the only way to get your membership disappeared.

Otherwise one remains a member for-ev-er. So yes, people may be trying to get themselves tomb stoned. In my opinion, it's perfectly understandable.

[democrattotheend]

31. There are several Clinton supporters in "attack mode"

Here are a few examples:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=2153700
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=2156122
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=2145257
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12512149023
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12512155119
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12512154844
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12512153870
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=2142556
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=2155195
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12512154362#post9

To their credit, many Hillary supporters have criticized these posts.

[Ned_Devine]

50. Thanks for posting this

[Tarc]

60. All look fine to me. Bit of a karmic return for 6 solid months of

"EMAILGATE!"
"TRANSCRIPTS!"
"BIG BANKS ARE YUUUGE!


See also: comeuppance.

[democrattotheend]

71. None of those are personal attacks

All of them are legit issues. Petty gloating, not so much.

[Loudestlib]

74. Immature.

[Chasstev365]

42. BS. Would you like me to provide personal examples?

[LaydeeBug]

2. we are in the same mode we've been in since the end of April

Reality is just starting to set in, but we must remain vigilant.

And we will.

Welcome to DU, btw.

[hrmjustin]

3. .

[riversedge]

81. Love your new sig line pics.

[hrmjustin]

83. Thanks!

[LostOne4Ever]

4. I think Some people took this primary too personally nt

[nadinbrzezinski]

36. And some of us were attacked in such a personal way that we will never forget

or forgive those people



I mean that, but trying to tell me I am not who I am was vile. (not you, just pointing an example)

[LostOne4Ever]

39. Completely understand & agree~! Nt

[PeaceNikki]

44. Telling people you don't care if they die is pretty vile, too.

[nadinbrzezinski]

46. Well I expalained it to you once

not gonna waste my time with you again on this issue. But to be quite honest, I really do not care at all about you. I already told you this I don't know how many times If I die please don't care for me either, I mean it. I should be a non person to you. I am not going to waste my time worrying about you. Have an excellent day.

PS, to be more accurate, when I die. please do not make that a matter of concern

[PeaceNikki]

53. I absolutely do care about you as a person, nadin.

I've never said anything to you that nasty or worthy of that kind of nastiness.

[nadinbrzezinski]

56. You have been a class A bully

And that is why I try to just put you and the rest of the crew out of my life. Won't ignore you. But that does not mean I am going to waste an iota of energy anymore. Is that clear now? Or do you need me to explain this another thousand times?

Look on the bright side, you are not in this particular group that will never be forgiven by me.

[PeaceNikki]

65. I just think you should self reflect a great deal.

They were hateful words. You don't say "I could not care less if you live or die" and not be hateful.

You think a virtual raspberry blow is bullying and then you replied to me with the hidden post basically wishing for harm or death upon me?

That was morbidly nasty, nadin. I may rib you about your grammar and spelling because I think if you worked on those things it would literally help you as a reporter. I realize now that my other reply of "I am not now, nor will I ever be, worried about you." may have come across as a general statement about you as a person. And for that, I am sorry. It was specifically in context of the Clinton scandal. I deleted it because of the fact I did not mean it like that. And I apologize if it came off viciously. I give you shit sometimes, but i have never been intentionally vicious to you in the manner you have to me.

I have never said anything even close to as hurtful or hateful to you as you did to me. That was a completely over-the-top response and several since.

I suggest that you reflect deeply on whether that is really the person you aspire to be. Especially while accusing others of being nasty.

So, while you're busy making lists of people who you'll never forgive, maybe make a second list of those to whom you should apologize.

[nadinbrzezinski]

69. 10 plus years of bullying, gaslighting et al.

Let me tell you a story. I was bullied relentlessly by a kid from kindergarten to junior high. It did not stop until I left that school. The administration knew. They did the same as the administrators of this site. I met her five years ago, at temple...after my dad died. She tried to tell me how she was a great BFF. You are trying something similar.

Just stop telling me what I need to do, and take your own fucking advise. You are the one who needs to do a lot of that reflection. Now do me a favor...just leave me the fuck alone. What you are doing is gaslighting. It is a form of psychological abuse. Don't even dare to tell me how to feel about this.

Have a good evening.

[PeaceNikki]

72. Nope, I'm not trying to tell you I'm your bff,

I'm trying to make peace. It's clear you don't want that and want to continue to paint yourself as a victim while hurling stones from your glass house.

Carry on.

[nadinbrzezinski]

73. Have the last word

[PeaceNikki]

76. Peace.

[aikoaiko]

86. If you mean that you should just stop poking her with your "kindness and love"

[LonePirate]

5. I'm guessing it is because of all the Sanders supporters remaining in attack mode.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12512160858

A majority of people responding to this poll indicates they will never give up the fight.

[GoneFishin]

6. Because they are trying to alienate Bernie and his supporters as quickly as possible before some

other snag hits the fan. They want Bernie out of the picture now.

[larkrake]

10. I think you are right. E-mails are now withheld, more investigations are being requested

if he quits, she wins by remote. This fanatic push is beyond all reason. Feels like damage control before the damage.

[larkrake]

7. I dont get it either

[TeacherB87]

8. What are you talking about?

I'm still seeing plenty of this from Sanders and Clinton supporters. Your post, ironically, does something similar to what you're complaining about: pushing people's buttons with unsubstantiated posts that bear no resemblance to the reality the rest of us see at DU.

[AgadorSparticus]

28. +1!!

[TheCowsCameHome]

9. It's as natural as breathing.

They pushed me away from supporting her early-on.

[RobertEarl]

11. Are there any nasty Hillary supporters still on DU?

I haven't seen any......

Oh, wait, they're all on my ignore list. No wonder DU is looking so fine.

One place to gather you're own Ig list is to go to their forum and pick names from the OPers there.

[kayakjohnny]

79. I'm pushing a hundred.

Are you that far along?

I wonder how i'm doing vs. other Bernie supporters.

Not that it matters at this point.

Just curious.

Let's have a competition before we all bail!

[QC]

13. This is a day that ends in y. n/t

[JoePhilly]

14. Build strawman, knock it over, declare victory.

[kstewart33]

15. For months, Hillary supporters have been a small minority on this forum.

Outnumbered by a large degree and Bernie supporters have reigned supreme and, as large majorities often do, generally treated the minority in less than a respectful way.

Now the minority has won the nomination. They are blowing off steam and it's been a very long time coming.

Give both sides some time. There is going to be a major reorientation of this website in a week, and civility will be the new reality for every member. It will happen because members will have no choice but to behave.

Couldn't come at a better time.

[Bluenorthwest]

47. That's very self serving. I'm a lifelong Democrat and the Clinton campaign is the fist to make

me ashamed to be one. Endless and often bigotry motivated attacks on Sanders went on nonstop. Hillary claimed Reagan was the fist AIDS activist and her supporters nodded along. There were the lies about those photos that were 'not Bernie' but of course were Bernie. The list goes on and on like this.

This affectation that her supporters were not here on DU posting all of thatas they wished on a website owned by Hillary supporters who changed the rules to allow the surly nature of their cohort to continue is laughable. Laughable.

[kayakjohnny]

84. I'd love to share your delusion.

But it's only good for those with short memories.

Your bubble must be a comfy little place.

Bless your heart.

[MFM008]

16. Let's be pals

[DCBob]

17. You been here a couple of months.

You have no idea... this is nothing compared to what the Berners did to us Hillary supporters over the past 15 months.

[notadmblnd]

26. You're doing it.

[DCBob]

37. Doing what?

[Armstead]

45. You're doing what you are complaining about

No one side has been all civil and polite. The snark has been spread around fairly equally. (And yeah, mne too sometimes)

[DCBob]

48. Good lord.. without snark this is no fun.

Lighten up Francis!

[Armstead]

51. I agree....But

this is nothing compared to what the Berners did to us Hillary supporters over the past 15 months.

If that was meant in pure spirit of fun and jest I apologize.

If you were serious, then lighten up yoself.

[DCBob]

61. Noted.

Peace.

[AzDar]

18. These are intelligent, thoughtful people...Deep down, they KNOW something ain't right.

[seabeyond]

21. Oh Bullshit. See Op poster, this crap, lol. This kinda stuff is going to be called out.

[AzDar]

24. Was this some sort of stream-of-consciousness exercise? Or just a another weird outburst?

Rhetorical questions, btw... YIKES.

[seabeyond]

34. The Op asked why Clinton supporters were in attack mode. Say crap like what you did, and it is gonna

be called out.

[Buddyblazon]

82. It's a good question...

I'm seeing a lot of Hillary supporters just attack today when it's not really necessary. She won. Take the trophy and be happy. Ya know?

[seabeyond]

85. No. This is a discussion board. When something is said, like what the poster I replied to said,

I am going to call it out.

[Buddyblazon]

87. Of course you will...

I'm liking the thread that lumps all Bernie supporters in with the nutballs that threatened the AP reporter.

Apparently I am a violent miscreant because I support the Senator.

[Hydra]

19. Honest answer? Party realignment

This is not the people's party anymore. The GOP is dead, and the DNC would like to claim their money and voters. We're only welcome now if we silently support whatever comes up.

[seabeyond]

20. Here is the thing. When I read a post that is all about attacking CLinton, ya. I am going to say

something. I just am. I am so tired of the constant attacks and lies about Clinton.

Yes, there are an incredibly lot of Sanders supporters on Du processing and putting this experience in their place, that they can face the GE and either enjoy, or at least participate and support. I think a lot of Clinton supporters are equally appreciative, and thank those that are able.

Clinton supporters are going to celebrate her win and accomplishments and success. To have Sanders people get on the thread and accuse Clinton supporters of doing wrong, for being excited about a win, is wrong.

Time. A lot of this is going to heal with time.

Right now, Sanders has not put it to the side. He is still open game, while he is playing.

[msanthrope]

23. I've been in laugh mode, myself. nt

[notadmblnd]

29. Yes, you've been a regular court jester through all of this.

[msanthrope]

37. Someone has to be Puck. nt

[villager]

41. Someone is definitely all Pucked up.

[msanthrope]

43. Puck you!

To the jury......it's all in good fun.

[villager]

49. Oh don't worry -- we'll all be left plenty Pucked over by this election

nt

[notadmblnd]

52. Robin Goodfellow you're not.

[msanthrope]

55. A rose is a rose is a rose. nt

[Bluenorthwest]

58. Someone needs to at least quote the Moliere that sort of shares your name:

“I have the defect of being more
sincere than persons wish.”
― Molière, The Misanthrope

[msanthrope]

67. You've always struck me as a perfect Oronte....nt

[Smarmie Doofus]

25. Basically they know at some level that the Sanders critique of Clinton...

... and the party is valid and correct.

That bugs them.

I also think there's an anti-semitism thing going on related to Sanders among certain sectors of the Clinton coalition.

That bugs them too. As does my pointing it out.

[seabeyond]

35. Wrong. Lol. I love all the people speaking for others. I personally chose to speak for myself.

[840high]

70. Keep pointing.

[melman]

27. It's what they do

[vi5]

30. Because they need to keep the whole thing alive....

..otherwise it will be harder to effectively use the "Bernie cost Hillary The Election!!!!" excuse when she loses to Trump.

Don't expect it to die down. Anything bad that happens between now and November will still be the fault of Bernie Bros not clapping loudly enough.

[alittlelark]

32. A touch of "Be Careful What You Wish For....

They appear to have gotten it, and now have to actually look at THE RECORD - not just HER.

Schadenfreude

[geek tragedy]

33. those feelings can't get turned off like a power switch.

people need to cool off, same dynamic on both sides

[SusanCalvin]

59. Yeah, I'm taking it that way for a while at least.

I'm just starting to calm down myself.

[villager]

40. When have they ever not been? What else do they know?

[Bluenorthwest]

54. Her actual supporters are not, but some simply used her as a device of attack which is why

they can't stop attacking Bernie, Hillary's victory was not their objective nor their motivation. Many of those posters are on record on DU saying they don't care for Hillary. But they hate Bernie.
So many or some of them were just in it for the attack not the election of a candidate. It will be hard for that lot to stop.

[blackspade]

64. You're on to something there...

I think that the attacks are a thinly veiled way of driving away or silencing progressive and left leaning Democrats.
The 'purity' they have used as a beat stick against the left of the party was classic projection.

[TheKentuckian]

57. See the scorpion and the frog parable, it is their nature.

[corkhead]

77. Funny, I was about to post the same thing

[Tortmaster]

62. I can't speak for other supporters ...

... of Secretary Clinton, but I am in love mode. I love you and know you will do everything in your power to defeat racist Trump.

[Sheepshank]

63. Perhaps you are skimming the thread headings for a different site.

[Dem2]

66. Why are _______ supporters in attack mode.

Let's be fair here.

[TDale313]

68. Beats the hell outta me.

Some have just gotten so used to seeing us as "the enemy" that even when it's totally counterproductive it seems worth it to dig the knife in a little deeper.

[Buzz cook]

75. I've been in full reconciliation mode nt

But there are still reactions going dowb the chain and it takes time for those to end.

[dubyadiprecession]

78. We are now in attack mode against train wreck trump...

There is now no need to fight bernie.

[Joe the Revelator]

80. It's not all of them, but the ones who are, were obviously only here for the game.

[one_voice]

88. Locking..

disruptive meta is not allowed.