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2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumThe Hypocrisy of Sanders's Superdelegate Push
Asking Democratic party elites to support him after he garnered fewer votes, won fewer states, and earned fewer pledged delegates cuts against the core spirit of his candidacy.CONOR FRIEDERSDORF 9:20 AM
As many Sanders supporters have bitterly noted, superdelegates provide an anti-democratic mechanism for the establishment to stop voters from making a choice they dislike.
If Sanders would have won more votes, more states, and more pledged delegates, but been denied the Democratic nomination by superdelegates, his supporters would have erupted in outrage, denouncing the nomination as stolen and illegitimate.
Those same supporters cannot in good faith support a Sanders push to secure the nomination with superdelegates now that he has won fewer votes, states, and pledged delegates. It would be farcical for a man who says hes running to inspire a political revolution to ascend to power via party elites subverting the will of voters.
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/06/bernie-sanders-superdelegates/486131/
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The Hypocrisy of Sanders's Superdelegate Push (Original Post)
workinclasszero
Jun 2016
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geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)1. his superdelegate push is over, though technically it never existed
it was always nothing more than a talking point in order to keep people thinking his chances were greater than they were
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)2. Did he say that he was going to stop trying to
flip supers?
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)3. he never started.
there isn't a record of them contacting a single superdelegate trying to flip that superdelegate
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)5. Well he sure has been selling a pack of lies about it for months then
The author of the article i linked to believes it obviously.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)6. he's a politician, it's what they do nt
morningfog
(18,115 posts)7. His comments on super delegates were contemporaneous with the primaries.
Not so much for after the primary votes end.
pat_k
(9,313 posts)9. The campaign has made it clear that they...
...are in the process of determining next steps. They've also made it clear that there will be NO decision for a least a few days -- and probably not until after the primary in DC.
In the days leading up to the California primary, aides to Sanders said that the senator was planning a rally in D.C. ahead of its primary-the last on the calendar-and would spend the next few days considering what his options are and preparing for the convention. link
As far as being hypocritical, that's bullshit. We may object to the existence of superdelegates, but the fact is they were put in place to overrule the pledged delegate outcome if they deem the candidate that comes out on top to be a loser. That's their frigging job. He's been working to demonstrate that he's a stronger candidate than Clinton. If he had won California, that case would have been strengthened.
Now he is deciding next steps. The only thing he has made clear is that he is still going to work to win support from DC voters to win as many pledged delegates as possible. There is nothing hypocritical or amiss about that.
And, if he does decide to keep lobbying superdelegates for support, there is nothing amiss about that either. Instead of "releasing" his delegates, he may decide he wants to go into the convention with as many delegates -- pledged or super -- as he can muster to demonstrate the depth of support for his New, New Deal.
Whichever way he goes -- releasing his delegates or not -- it will be his call. In the meantime, the pundits, party "leaders," and DUers, need to stop with all the premature reactions to a decision that has yet to be made.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)4. It was part of
Agnosticsherbet
(11,619 posts)8. He has also constantly bashed the party elites as corrupt.
Telling a superdelegate, your a corrupt SOB, so I want you to support me instead of Clinton, even though she has a majority of pledged delegates, votes, and superdelegates