Clinton's choice for chief of Consumer Finance Protection Bureau

[Kang Colby]

Ok, I'm joking. But I do have a lot of respect for DWS. Her leadership was a tremendous asset to the DNC during the primary season. Her unwavering leadership held both the primary and party together. She still has work to do, but I'm certain she will get it done.

I respect DWS and admire her leadership skills...that is no joke.

[kpola12]

1. We are in trouble.

[BootinUp]

2. POTUS has her back. nt

[Kang Colby]

3. Damn right.

Even so, I give her credit. What she did impressed me. She has amazing leadership skills. You'd think she served as a four star general in WWII. I'd love to serve on her staff.

[Scuba]

60. You must be easily impressed ...

Debbie's record ...

Lost a bunch of House seats, the Senate 12 Governorships and over 900 state seats while Chair of the DNC
Supported Republicans over Democrats in two Florida districts
Conceded entire districts to the Louis Gohmerts and Joni Ernsts of this world by abandoning the 50-state strategy
Supported a Republican retread for the Florida Democratic Party Gubernatorial candidate (he lost to Rick Scott, again)
Undermined President Obama's treaty with Iran
Shilled for the private prison industry
Shilled for the booze industry
Shilled for the payday loan industry
Blamed the voters for her failures


If she'd been a WWII General we'd all be speaking German right now.

[morningfog]

4. She's been awful. I hope she does get a new job so someone

with more tact and ability can take her job.

[Kang Colby]

8. Why? Just curious.

I don't agree with *all* of her positions either...but you have to admit that she has tremendous leadership skills. She is a very strong leader.

[morningfog]

12. I disagree. She fumbles in interviews, the message is muddled,

she's always on the defense and doesn't frame the issues well. She didn't adhere to the 50 state strategy, which is a long term strategy. But even short term, she's not been effective.

We need a DNC head who knows how to control the message and keep the GOP on the defense. And who knows how to expand the base and work in every state. The one thing I give her credit for is allowing Bernie to run as a dem even though she wasn't impartial after that initial decision. That brought in a lo of new voters and a new generation of Democratic voters.

[Kang Colby]

23. I politely disagree.

I didn't suggest she was an eloquent public speaker.

Her ability to lead during a challenging time was impressive. The primary could have easily spun out of control given the complex circumstances, but she held it together.

[larkrake]

29. challanging time. I didnt see any challanges until Bernies sails unfurled

in fact, Hillarys path was cleared long before announcing

[larkrake]

25. no, she allows her opinions to rule her decisions, she isn't neutral in any respect

a leader to the guillotine perhaps,

[Loudestlib]

52. She lost how many seats?

She has supported republicans over democrats. Hell, she back a republican bill that was written by shady payday lenders.

[scscholar]

45. Things may have been worse without her

You can't prove that one way or the other.

[KingFlorez]

5. I'll admit that I'm not the biggest fan of DWS

But I think much of the flack that she received in this primary was totally unwarranted.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

7. Her nemeses have made her a sympathetic figure. Nobody likes a bully!!!

[notadmblnd]

14. Hillary, Debbie and all of her supporters are poor poor victims.

It must be exhausting for them all.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

15. Uncovering the pusillanimity at the heart of bullying is exhausting

Such is the cost of virtue.

[notadmblnd]

16. virtue isn't the word I would ever use when opining about Hillary and her supporters

[DemocratSinceBirth]

19. "None so deaf as those that will not hear. None so blind as those that will not see." -

[notadmblnd]

24. Tired cliches. Really?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

28. He or she who patronizes others is compensating for something.

I would say what that something is but this is the not the appropriate forum. Iwill just have to leave it up to the imagination of you and others that are party to our exchange.

[notadmblnd]

31. well it's not a small penis cause I don't have one.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

32. What an odd inference.

[notadmblnd]

34. Riiiiight. Again you're totally innocent. Just a poor victim constantly bullied

by mean Bernie supporters for no reason at all

Cause it's not like those poor innocent victims ever make personal attacks on others. Pure as the driven snot they are.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

35. No need to be so snippy. We are all on the same side.

Democratic Underground is an online community for politically liberal people who understand the importance of working within the system to elect more Democrats and fewer Republicans to all levels of political office.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=termsofservice

[notadmblnd]

36. The donut is round.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

37. An internet conversation with a wise man is worth reading one thousand books.

You're welcome.

[notadmblnd]

38. I wouldn't know. I haven't come across any on the internet

Do you know any?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

40. And the circle is complete. Please see Post 19.

Thank you in advance.

[notadmblnd]

41. As I said before, the donut is round

[DemocratSinceBirth]

59. Hi

[elehhhhna]

39. And people don't vote for victims

[Kang Colby]

9. I agree that it was unwarranted. eom

[DemocratSinceBirth]

6. Eight more days

[DJ13]

10. I might agree with you

if I dont run out of alcohol before then.

[Kang Colby]

13. Politics aside for a moment..

Think about it. Her leadership ability is almost unmatched. When she was selected to run the DNC, we got a talented leader. I feel very comfortable going into November with her at the helm.

[DJ13]

17. She can manage, that I agree with

But the results she has achieved are terrible from a party standpoint.

We lost far too many seats in Congress, and too many Governor races with her in charge.

[Kang Colby]

42. Have a few more brews and get back to me.

You accidentally missed several key considerations.

In 2012, under DWS' leadership, we picked up several seats in the House, Senate, and of course the presidency. This was despite congressional gerrymandering and the 2010 tea party response to Obama. Despite it all, her leadership came through.

In 2014, you had people running around wanting to abandon the fifty state strategy in an effort to counterpunch and draw contrasts with the far right. This was a failed strategy, anyone who could see state legislatures turning red knew it was going to be a failed approach. But, individual politicans don't "report" to the DNC per se. A lot of folks decided to leave the fifty state boat and were washed out to sea.

In 2016, we are going to get back to the fifty state strategy with deep roots in old school DLC pragmatism. We are going to elect Dems coast to coast. Mark my words.

[merrily]

57. Kindly identify her strategy in 2012. In 2014, her strategy was "Obama who?" And your reasons for

excusing her 2014 historic failure are bogus and seem pulled out of nowhere but your desire to praise.

As far as old school DLC, fsck it. It's ruined our party.

[larkrake]

20. Christ, blind mice

[immoderate]

21. She gentrified the congress!

--imm

[notadmblnd]

11. Ms. Payday Loan herself. How apropo.

I'm sure she'll work hard for those she represents.

[QC]

33. That makes her the perfect representative of the new party,

sadly.

[larkrake]

18. thanks, I just spewed pepsi on my keyboard!

[Ash_F]

22. DWS enables predatory payday lenders.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/debbie-wasserman-schultz-payday-lenders_us_56e1a9d6e4b065e2e3d50764

[Ned_Devine]

26. "Her unwavering leadership held both the primary and party together."

This has to be a joke

[Kang Colby]

44. See post 42. It's not a joke.

We are going to elect a lot of Dems this year.

[Ned_Devine]

46. How about we elect a lot of progressives and not a bunch of charlatans like we usually do

I want to see more Donna Edwards and Tulsi Gabbard types. Otherwise it's just the same old bamboozling hiding behind the name of a political party.

[dflprincess]

47. You'll notice post 42 says we'll get "back to DLC pragmatism"

in other words, the goal is to elect more Vichy Dems - the kind that used to be called Republicans.

Count me out.

[Ned_Devine]

48. Yeah, no thanks

I remember being so excited in '06 when we took the house back while Bush was in office. Then, once the new session started in '07, Nancy Pelosi said impeachment was off the table. They then patted themselves on the back for saving social security.

[Kang Colby]

49. I agree

on Donna Edwards. It sucks she lost to CVH.

Overall though, some of my favorite Dems wouldn't pass a progressive purity test.

[Ned_Devine]

50. "Purity test" implies something untoward

As liberals, I don't think it's too much to ask that our candidates not be pro-war, pro MIC, pro fracking, pro Wall St., etc...

[larkrake]

27. I hope you are joking. I do expect Hill to put corp in all her appointments and court

she has thousands of creeps to repay

[One Black Sheep]

30. DWS has been a disaster for Dems, the GOP should send her a thank you note

Big losses in both House and Senate for Dems under her leadership.

Maybe Hillary should put her in the cabinet, because she does seem to be a superb lackey type, she has done a good job in helping Hillary railroad the primaries, for sure..

On the other hand, DWS legacy may very well turn out to be not only major losses in Congress, but a big loss to Trump as well. Since she greatly helped Hillary to get the nomination, that would certainly be a capper for her political career, for Debbie to go out on...

[Kang Colby]

43. See post 42. eom

[YOHABLO]

51. She needs to go.

[JonLeibowitz]

53. Under DWS' strong leadership we are sure to keep the U.S. Senate seat from California as (D)

Clearly she is a valuable asset. Go Debbie!!

[merrily]

54. You say no joke, I'm having trouble accepting that you can be both serious and sincere about that

statement.

She blew 2014 horrifically. Same for the primaries.

[Kang Colby]

56. I explained my reasoning in post 42. n/t

[merrily]

58. Post 42 is a fairy tale, but I responded to it anyway.

[coyote]

55. Wow! Can I have some of whatever you are smoking?

[Scuba]

61. More likely someone now working on Wall Street, or for Wall Street in Washington.