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GoldenThunder

(300 posts)
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 08:42 AM Jun 2016

Hillary will need my vote in November to win Minnesota

I took a quick glace over at 270toWin to find much to my surprise Minnesota is now a swing state.



You're telling me my sky Blue Minnesota, the state with the longest active D streak in the country, is potentially only a handful of votes away from falling into the hands of The Marmalade Mussolini.

No democratic nominee worth their salt should ever be in a situation like this. Especially against such a buffoon as Trump.

This 'presumptive' nominee of ours has a helluva lot of work to do.

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Hillary will need my vote in November to win Minnesota (Original Post) GoldenThunder Jun 2016 OP
NC is in play, too - because of Hillary. yardwork Jun 2016 #1
That's right! GO OLD NORTH STATE! obamanut2012 Jun 2016 #13
I just got an email survey asking me what I thought should be on the platform. djean111 Jun 2016 #2
So they actually want your input. NCTraveler Jun 2016 #3
Some folks just want to stomp their feet Blue_Adept Jun 2016 #8
Have you read Hillary's positions? yardwork Jun 2016 #6
I am waiting for her divesture in KXL and making a formal statement that it will not be approved. nt TheBlackAdder Jun 2016 #10
Ok, but my question was to the other poster. yardwork Jun 2016 #11
And that's why the platform isn't further to the left gollygee Jun 2016 #12
No, you cannot blame the left. djean111 Jun 2016 #14
You just said you had an opportunity gollygee Jun 2016 #16
No, I am complaining that the platform is just some words. djean111 Jun 2016 #18
She needs to stop supporting fracking. I'm a Clinton supporter who will vote for her but the kerry-is-my-prez Jun 2016 #20
HRC has her own swing voters in mind Skink Jun 2016 #4
That map has my Oregon listed as a swing state! Lizzie Poppet Jun 2016 #5
Some Bernie or Busters have taken this map into consideration. Bernie will get write in votes from WhaTHellsgoingonhere Jun 2016 #7
Actually 270towin lists Minnesota being a competitive state in 2012 so no difference there. WhollyHeretic Jun 2016 #9
that website is the authority on what counts as a swing state? nt geek tragedy Jun 2016 #15
Vote for who you want to KingFlorez Jun 2016 #17
Um, who's model is this? MISISSIPPI and ALASKA are considered tossups? brooklynite Jun 2016 #19
I am in a Gray State. Ugh. Hiraeth Jun 2016 #21
Well good luck in making your choice rock Jun 2016 #22

yardwork

(61,408 posts)
1. NC is in play, too - because of Hillary.
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 08:48 AM
Jun 2016

If Bernie were our nominee, then NC would definitely go for Trump. Instead, because of Hillary, we have a chance to give 15 electoral college votes to the Democrat - and help flip the Senate blue!

Go Hillary!

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
2. I just got an email survey asking me what I thought should be on the platform.
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 09:04 AM
Jun 2016

My response was, why bother. Hillary is pretty much for war and fracking and Third Way slashing of social programs, etc., so why bother with a platform that is not worth a bucket of spit? Maybe use it as a dance floor.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
3. So they actually want your input.
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 09:08 AM
Jun 2016

And you make a complete mockery of it.

Why in the world would you not put something about economics in your response. Or voting. Or climate change.

Now yours will go in the garbage can while my survey will be entered. Well done.

Take part in our fight for a more just society.

It's a shame you think West is CURRENTLY working on something not worth a bucket of spit. West himself disagrees with you and is optimistic about the start of the process.

Blue_Adept

(6,384 posts)
8. Some folks just want to stomp their feet
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 09:20 AM
Jun 2016

It's one way to deal with the feeling of impotence in the process - a self created impotence more often than not.

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
12. And that's why the platform isn't further to the left
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 09:49 AM
Jun 2016

Because the people who are further to the left don't bother participating. They just complain.

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
14. No, you cannot blame the left.
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 10:13 AM
Jun 2016

The politicians at the top just ignore the thing.

https://www.democrats.org/party-platform

Read the platform. How does the last twenty years of fracking, trade deals, and bloody wars fit into this platform?

It is all feel-good rhetoric, no different than a campaign speech.

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
16. You just said you had an opportunity
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 11:01 AM
Jun 2016

To influence the platform but chose not to. And you ate,at the same time,complaining that the platform isn't where you want it.

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
18. No, I am complaining that the platform is just some words.
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 11:09 AM
Jun 2016

What Hillary stands for right now is against the current platform.

I am saying I doubt I really have any influence, and that someone is just looking for pandering points, and that, for example, corporate trade deals will torpedo those middle class families that are supposed to be "saved and strengthened" no matter what the platform says. Fracking will ruin their land and their water. The ACA will continue to have rising premiums and bigger co-pays. That is reality, the platform has not been reality for quite a while.

kerry-is-my-prez

(8,133 posts)
20. She needs to stop supporting fracking. I'm a Clinton supporter who will vote for her but the
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 11:30 AM
Jun 2016

environment is very important to me.

 

Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)
5. That map has my Oregon listed as a swing state!
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 09:14 AM
Jun 2016

I don't buy it (although Oregon outside the Willamette Valley and a couple of other enclaves is deeply red...just not heavily populated). I'll keep an eye on the polling, since we were strongly in Bernie's camp, but I'd be very surprised indeed id the Republicans get our seven Electors.

 

WhaTHellsgoingonhere

(5,252 posts)
7. Some Bernie or Busters have taken this map into consideration. Bernie will get write in votes from
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 09:16 AM
Jun 2016

knowledgable voters in the "blue wall" states. Those in "red wall" states might do the same. But those in swing states need to recognize that their vote for Bernie is superfluous as he's already getting votes from the "wall states." It would be a huge lapse in judgment for them to vote for Bernie. I'm sure most of the Bernie or Busters know all of this already. There's just a lot of trolling going on because what's more fun than keeping a Hillary supporter up at night

brooklynite

(93,834 posts)
19. Um, who's model is this? MISISSIPPI and ALASKA are considered tossups?
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 11:28 AM
Jun 2016

You realize that ANYONE can create a 270TOWIN scenario, right?

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