2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumHillary will need my vote in November to win Minnesota
I took a quick glace over at 270toWin to find much to my surprise Minnesota is now a swing state.
You're telling me my sky Blue Minnesota, the state with the longest active D streak in the country, is potentially only a handful of votes away from falling into the hands of The Marmalade Mussolini.
No democratic nominee worth their salt should ever be in a situation like this. Especially against such a buffoon as Trump.
This 'presumptive' nominee of ours has a helluva lot of work to do.
yardwork
(61,408 posts)If Bernie were our nominee, then NC would definitely go for Trump. Instead, because of Hillary, we have a chance to give 15 electoral college votes to the Democrat - and help flip the Senate blue!
Go Hillary!
obamanut2012
(25,905 posts)djean111
(14,255 posts)My response was, why bother. Hillary is pretty much for war and fracking and Third Way slashing of social programs, etc., so why bother with a platform that is not worth a bucket of spit? Maybe use it as a dance floor.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)And you make a complete mockery of it.
Why in the world would you not put something about economics in your response. Or voting. Or climate change.
Now yours will go in the garbage can while my survey will be entered. Well done.
Take part in our fight for a more just society.
It's a shame you think West is CURRENTLY working on something not worth a bucket of spit. West himself disagrees with you and is optimistic about the start of the process.
Blue_Adept
(6,384 posts)It's one way to deal with the feeling of impotence in the process - a self created impotence more often than not.
yardwork
(61,408 posts)TheBlackAdder
(28,070 posts)yardwork
(61,408 posts)gollygee
(22,336 posts)Because the people who are further to the left don't bother participating. They just complain.
djean111
(14,255 posts)The politicians at the top just ignore the thing.
https://www.democrats.org/party-platform
Read the platform. How does the last twenty years of fracking, trade deals, and bloody wars fit into this platform?
It is all feel-good rhetoric, no different than a campaign speech.
gollygee
(22,336 posts)To influence the platform but chose not to. And you ate,at the same time,complaining that the platform isn't where you want it.
djean111
(14,255 posts)What Hillary stands for right now is against the current platform.
I am saying I doubt I really have any influence, and that someone is just looking for pandering points, and that, for example, corporate trade deals will torpedo those middle class families that are supposed to be "saved and strengthened" no matter what the platform says. Fracking will ruin their land and their water. The ACA will continue to have rising premiums and bigger co-pays. That is reality, the platform has not been reality for quite a while.
kerry-is-my-prez
(8,133 posts)environment is very important to me.
Skink
(10,122 posts)Lizzie Poppet
(10,164 posts)I don't buy it (although Oregon outside the Willamette Valley and a couple of other enclaves is deeply red...just not heavily populated). I'll keep an eye on the polling, since we were strongly in Bernie's camp, but I'd be very surprised indeed id the Republicans get our seven Electors.
WhaTHellsgoingonhere
(5,252 posts)knowledgable voters in the "blue wall" states. Those in "red wall" states might do the same. But those in swing states need to recognize that their vote for Bernie is superfluous as he's already getting votes from the "wall states." It would be a huge lapse in judgment for them to vote for Bernie. I'm sure most of the Bernie or Busters know all of this already. There's just a lot of trolling going on because what's more fun than keeping a Hillary supporter up at night
WhollyHeretic
(4,074 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)KingFlorez
(12,689 posts)Write in Bernie Sanders and call it a day.
brooklynite
(93,834 posts)You realize that ANYONE can create a 270TOWIN scenario, right?