2016 Postmortem
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Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)justiceischeap
(14,040 posts)They have no leverage over him.
Lizzie Poppet
(10,164 posts)Like the OP says, he's not Bernie's boss.
Renew Deal
(81,950 posts)Bernie has undeserved seniority in the Democratic caucus. Those committee heads get extra money. Bernie could get an 11AM Wednesday speaking slot at the convention. Obama could use his considerable fundraising ability for a VT challenger for Bernie. The party can punish all of Bernies super-delegates. There's plenty of leverage.
Bernie is starting to embarrass himself. Have you noticed the jokes about Bernie not knowing he lost? There was one on the Tonight show last night. He's starting to turn into a punch line.
Silver_Witch
(1,820 posts)And that people are threatened, bribed and manipulated to let the big dogs make the rules. Fuck the voters eh!!!
Renew Deal
(81,950 posts)Do you work? Does your boss have motivating leverage? Do you have kids? Do you have leverage?
Silver_Witch
(1,820 posts)Or your children? My leverage is my paycheck. And my boss assists though they maybe simply asks me to do my jobi. Exchange for money. And amazingly I do it!
HRC did not bow out until after the last primary. Bernie will do the same. Deal with it!
Renew Deal
(81,950 posts)alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)A teevee show about a corrupt President using his power to overturn the will of the People!
Silver_Witch
(1,820 posts)I amnot the one that posted how President Obama and the DNC could threatened and punish Bernie. The posterr I responded did! I actually believe President Obama is a nice man and actually cares. Imagine that.
justiceischeap
(14,040 posts)Lizzie Poppet
(10,164 posts)Despite his alignment with the Democratic Party for this election (and caucusing with them for years), Bernie is an independent. Party pressures aren't going to work on him - and I suspect he'll retire when this term is up. No leverage...
So ask yourself that question (only maybe try and not do it in a condescending, douchey manner, m'kay?).
justiceischeap
(14,040 posts)and even though Bernie is an Independent, he is currently trying to influence the Democratic Party. And implying that the President or the Democratic Party has no leverage with him is naive.
Committees? Well, they can disappear. Any influence he hopes to have within a party he's only a member of so he could use their resources can strip those resources away just as quickly when all is said and done. The President actually has the power in this situation, not Bernie because I'm sure by now polls have been done to see just how "needed" Sanders is.
Lizzie Poppet
(10,164 posts)As I said, I very much doubt Sanders will seek re-election to the Senate...and the optics of stripping committee memberships from him for the remainder of his term would be absolutely dreadful. Not happening.
As far as influencing the platform, the president has no ability to reduce whatever power Bernie has in that area (which I personally consider to be of minimal import, anyway...the platform is window dressing, and everyone knows it). That power resides solely in Bernie's large block of voters...not on anything the Executive branch has any power over.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)For a man who likes his committee assignments and sitting in the senate? Surely you jest.
PepperHarlan
(124 posts)It's all bumper stickers and rallies.
yourpaljoey
(2,166 posts)Lizzie Poppet
(10,164 posts)I wanted someone much more progressive. Of course, he's been stymied at every turn by the GOP...but I still don't see a genuine progressive when I look at Obama. There have been too many pro-corporate decisions that haven't been positive for the people.
Plenty of positive accomplishments, though...
onenote
(43,252 posts)And thus has every right to offer his suggestions to Sanders as to how he can best serve his adopted party.
alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)Talk about going to somebody's house and shitting on the rug.
boston bean
(36,246 posts)yardwork
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Skink
(10,122 posts)Bernie has said he would ask Obama to withdraw Merrick Garland.
Lord Magus
(1,999 posts)Only Republicans think that Obama is a lame duck. His lame duck period begins November 9.
Skink
(10,122 posts)I mean who really needs the Tpp. And Merrick might as well pass.
SidDithers
(44,228 posts)I think some Sanders supporters think it was the other way around.
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DemocratSinceBirth
(99,729 posts)http://www.politico.com/story/2016/06/bernie-sanders-supporters-obama-224105#ixzz4B5VSENHJ
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Please support me. I lost by nearly 4,000,000 votes and 400 earned delegates. I lost African Americans 4-1, Latinos 3-1, women over 40 4-1 and lost nine of the most populous states including blowouts in the three most populous ones. Oh, did I tell you I lost five of the last seven contests and the only place I shined were in sparsely populated and homogeneous states. But please support me.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)uponit7771
(90,436 posts)CrowCityDem
(2,348 posts)Renew Deal
(81,950 posts)And Obama is one of the most respected people on the planet. He's also one of the toughest politicians and can flatten Bernie if he chose.
Bernie has to realize he lost. Have you noticed that Bernie is starting to be mocked for "not realizing" he lost? The jokes are getting funnier.
LexVegas
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yardwork
(62,045 posts)handmade34
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MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)And I'm sure Obama is shaking in his boots about Sanders' supporters.
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Txbluedog
(1,128 posts)Nina Effing Turner thinks she's in a position to tell POTUS what he should or shouldn't say? She more delusional than a lot of the BoB
Silver_Witch
(1,820 posts)I think it is called a sentence. And I think it means Sanders will make his decision based on how he feels. No warning of shit!!!
Get over it! Your candidate won. Never sae such sore winners in my life EVER! And I work with attorney. Worse winners EVER!
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)OregonBlue
(7,768 posts)Bernie is the one that asked to meet with the president.
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Capt. Obvious
(9,002 posts)He left his stilts at home.
onecaliberal
(33,412 posts)More stupid than a bag and of hammers.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)Or they will fail even harder!
PepperHarlan
(124 posts)Good luck with that.
alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)These people, jeez.
KingFlorez
(12,689 posts)The disregard that the Sanders campaign has for the voters is stunning. Attack President Obama is not going to help the situation any, it will just further ostracize Sanders.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)... think they can use the same tactics on President Obama as they've used elsewhere.