Does Bernie check in here on DU? Disturbing article on his mindset these days.

[Fast Walker 52]

http://www.salon.com/2016/06/09/bernies_road_ahead_three_options_for_the_sunset_of_his_campaign/

Apparently he is still waiting for Clinton to be indicted, among other things.

I supported him from early on, but I do feel like he's been losing it lately, and he's been turning me off in the past few days. I can understand where his head is at, but he needs to come down from his ego trip. He's not going to be elected president.

[tonyt53]

1. Read up on a few articles out now about him. The Politico article is particularly damning.

Yeah, his followers have turned against Politico in the past few weeks. They will start attacking Move-On shortly.

[democrattotheend]

24. I agree with MoveOn's position

The Politico article, on the other hand, was shoddy journalism, based on conversations with anonymous staffers at the end of a campaign trying to cover their own ass. Even MSNBC said to take that article with a grain of salt.

[MFM008]

28. No

Now I take MSNBC with a grain of salt.

[JSup]

46. I take it...

...with a grain of salt and a smatter of offense at people shit-talking their employer.

Hillary didn't get her grain of salt after her 2008 'zomg last days of Clinton campaign', but Bernie will (at least from me).

[yourpaljoey]

2. There are rumblings from the Sanders camp about running Independent

The ground swell support for an Independent run is strong.

[justiceischeap]

3. Unless Bernie has turned into a huge narcissist

He won't run Independent because he knows that gives Trump the win.

[yourpaljoey]

5. His supporters do not agree

[justiceischeap]

8. His supporters aren't Bernie

and Bernie knows what's at stake.

[Hortensis]

56. Exactly. Ralph Nader destroyed his standing

as a national figure with his third-party candidacy. Yes, he still has a constituency, but most people wrote him off. How often do you see him actually getting air time? Almost never, and even Bernie Sanders won't return his phone calls.

[sufrommich]

9. I'd be willing to bet that the vast majority of Sanders supporters

have accepted that he lost and moved on. What we're seeing now is a new version of the PUMAs of 2008 and it will fizzle out just like it did in 2008.

[LiberalFighter]

16. I don't trust the remaining ones to actually be Bernie supporters.

[TwilightZone]

14. His supporters aren't the ones making the decisions.

[WhiteTara]

31. Even though more of them rally

rather than vote.

[Fast Walker 52]

22. I sure hope so

But it sounds like this election has gone to his head.

[justiceischeap]

25. If I were a betting woman, I'd say Bernie is using this time

to get a bunch of concessions. Basically extorting the Dem Party to get some of his issues on the platform. Once he gets what he wants or the most he can get, he'll back down.

That's what I'd do if I were in his position.

[Fast Walker 52]

26. Right, I agree

But a lot of people are saying Bernie should run as a Green Party candidate. I hope he's not tempted.

[justiceischeap]

27. I don't think he will. I think a lot of that is mere wishful thinking.

Fingers crossed.

[yodermon]

45. yeah maybe he'll demand to be secretary of state n/t

[aikoaiko]

43. Do you know of any polling numbers on a three way? Does anyone?

im really curious.

[justiceischeap]

44. Yes, I've seen some and according to which polls you're looking at

Trump wins handily or Clinton eeks out a win. 3rd party runs almost always hurt the Dem party more because GOP supporters are usually pretty good about sticking with their party.

[tonyt53]

4. A few less of Bernie's followers voting for Trump then.

[jzodda]

7. Wow really?

I hope not. Sure anything can happen but at its most basic level it represents a split of the center to left leaning votes.

This should (in a usual cycle) help Trump.

[OKNancy]

10. if so, it shows that some in his camp don't know that it's too late

to run as an Independent. Not only that, he said he wouldn't and I believe he would never do anything to make things easier for Trump.

[yourpaljoey]

12. It is not too late. Look into it before starting a bun fight.

In fact, the wheels are in motion.

[OKNancy]

13. There will be no Independent run by Sanders

Count on it.

[WhiteTara]

34. He has to get on the ballot

in all 50 states. Here are the rules.

An individual can run as an independent. Independent presidential candidates typically must petition each state to have their names printed on the general election ballot. For the 2016 presidential contest, it was estimated that an independent candidate would need to collect in excess of 900,000 signatures in order to appear on the general election ballot in every state.[1]

At the link, you will see the filing date in 6 states has past or is too close to be able to set up the petition for votes.

It is conceivable that he would take the Green Party offer to run as a VP, but I don't think his ego would allow him to do that.
https://ballotpedia.org/Ballot_access_for_presidential_candidates

[okasha]

52. Furthermore,

many if not all states, have sore-loser laws. If you lose your own party's mom, you don't get to run indie or hop onto someone else's ticket.

[peace13]

19. Either way it doesn't matter.

If hill has the votes she will win. Looks all good for you.

[bunnies]

11. link? nt

[WhiteTara]

35. ...

also see post #12
https://ballotpedia.org/Ballot_access_for_presidential_candidates

[bunnies]

37. Nothing there from the Sanders Camp.

[WhiteTara]

38. What does that mean?

Are we talking about the same thing?

I just linked to the rules one must play by to be an independent on a presidential ballot.
Were you looking for where Bernie is on the ballot as an independent?

[bunnies]

40. No.

I was asking the poster for a link to his claim that there were rumblings in the Sanders camp about running indie.

[WhiteTara]

42. Okay!

[corkhead]

15. Not.Gunna.Happen. nt

[RichGirl]

41. There is always danger when people make it about the candidate rather than party.

NOBODY is perfect. Treating Bernie like the second coming of Christ would lead to huge disappointment. It's mostly the younger crowd who turns someone into a hero. They believe him. They don't know that everything he promises has to go through congress and will be watered down...just like Obamacare. If they expect $15 minimum wage...anything less will be a disappointment.

Ordinarily...a candidate who supports the NRA as he does(even after Sandy Hook) would receive huge criticism from democrats. The silence regarding this is....unhealthy.

He is not our savior!

[TacoD]

49. I doubt very much that "The ground swell support for an Independent run is strong." nt

[peace13]

18. This is very rude.

You may want to rethink it. Sanders is doing nothing to you or Hill. She is in GE mode and you should be happy!

[Squinch]

53. Still, it is an opinion, it doesn't violate the TOS and it shouldn't have been hidden.

[PADemD]

17. The FBI has not released its report yet.

Bernie is not the only person who thinks Hillary could be indicted. She stored classified documents on an unsecured off-site private server.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12512160313

[KingFlorez]

20. We know, we know, we know. The indictment is coming any day now!!!!!!!!

Even though experts have said there won't be an indictment, internet prosecutors insist on pushing that there will be one.

[WhiteTara]

30. Especially diGenova and Toensing

they have been saying "any day now" for several months.

[Fast Walker 52]

23. Yes but hoping for it is something else entirely

[djean111]

21. Hillary is the one on an ego trip.

Her entire campaign is just about her being president, not the issues.

Kinda amusing how many feel they can read Bernie's mind and tell him what to do. You being turned off by him is irrelevant, really.
So, don't vote for him.

[Agnosticsherbet]

29. Interesting article. A good assessment of the choiceses.

I would rather he play kingmaker and become a power in the party than suck us down to the ninth level of Trump hell. I hope he chooses route 1. It will be better for the American People.

[Orsino]

32. Salon secondhand bullshit, with a lot of editorializing and not much else.

Author doesn't understand campaigning or conventions.

Until Sanders concedes, suspends or is voted down in Philly, he has to be in it to win it. There are no in-between options. As to what he hopes to achieve at the convention, one need only glance through his stated policies.

He's playing for influence, and that means bringing a lot of drlegates to where the cameras will be.

[WhiteTara]

36. At most it would be 10 delegates.

Seems petty to me.

[Orsino]

39. He's a politician, and wants to be where the cameras are...

...but with an agenda that is the opposite of petty.

[Renew Deal]

33. The problem for Bernie is "not-Bernie" has 900 more delegates than Bernie

So it's never going to be him either way.

[Eric J in MN]

47. Instead of mind reading Bernie Sanders

...let's go by what Bernie Sanders did today:

Had a smiling meeting with Obama.

Publicly thanked Obama and Biden for their "impartiality" during the process.

Said he congratulated Hillary Clinton on the phone Tuesday night and that he looks forward to meeting with her soon.

Said Donald Trump would be a "disaster" and he'll do everything he can to stop Trump from becoming president.

Met with Harry Reid. Afterwards, Reid said Sanders will campaign for Democratic Senators.

[TacoD]

48. +1 nt

[emulatorloo]

51. +1

[bigwillq]

50. Bernie seems to be fine to me.

Seems like he's going to take it through DC and then probably concede, endorse Hillary and do what he can to prevent Donald Trump from winning the White House.

[floriduck]

54. Go search for Bob Cesca articles and you'll see he was never a fan of Bernie. He's a liar.

This is just Cesca appealing to the Clinton supporters now that he knows Hillary is the presumptive pick. It's his way of selling himself like a cheap whore.

[senz]

55. Bernie has never been on an ego trip.

With Hillary, it's all about "me." With Bernie, it's all about "us."