2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumAnd the smears against Bernie continue.
This article is pure bullshit. Bernie is the one person who really stands for bringing everyone together. Have the Democratic Establishment figured out that their mistreatment of Bernie ONLY magnifies their weaknesses?
Giordano has become so disenchanted with Sanders that he's contemplating a challenge to the democratic socialist's Vermont Senate seat in 2018. If Sanders doesn't enthusiastically support Clinton as the nominee by the convention, Giordano says, he'll establish residency in Vermont and start working on a Senate campaign.
This seems like a dizzying shift. But Giordano explains that he's not so much committed to Clinton as a candidate as he's committed to "the Obama coalition." "The future of progressive politics is in the multi-racial coalition," Giordano told me by Skype from his home in Mexico City.
Giordano thinks Sanders has disrupted that critical progressive coalition. The Vermont senator "has a blind spot on racial justice issues," Giordano argues. He is "exploiting racial and gender divisions... in a way that harms the movement." For instance, Sanders' comments about the illegitimacy of the primary process, and dismissal of Clinton's victories in Southern states, which were fueled by black voters, have "poisoned the well," Giordano says, and made unity against the Republicans difficult. That divisiveness, he believes, "also harms the people of Vermont. He's going to be a pariah in Congress. He's not going to be able to get anything done for Vermont."
Giordano's impetus for challenging Sanders in 2018, then, is explicitly about party coalitions, cohesion, and pragmatic efforts at change. He is threatening to oppose Sanders because Sanders is, in his view, threatening the unity of the Democratic Party coalition.
http://theweek.com/articles/627770/could-political-gadfly-steal-bernie-sanders-senate-seat
djean111
(14,255 posts)The Party moved to the right, and not everybody is going with it.
Giordano is just an opportunist.
GoneFishin
(5,217 posts)thing the Party leaders give a shit about. Expectations that the Party will deliver more than an occasional token bone to the underprivileged is naïve.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)Why should Sanders or his supporters be afraid of a challenge? It's good for democracy, right? It keeps candidates on their toes, right? Make them WORK for the nomination and the office instead of running unopposed and being "coronated", right?
HERVEPA
(6,107 posts)Tarc
(10,472 posts)My my, doesn't that sound a bit...establishment-esque.
HERVEPA
(6,107 posts)brooklynite
(94,302 posts)I don't personally care, but I note that most of the folks who gripe about the DNC and the DSCC complain that it insists on "protecting incumbents"...
Tarc
(10,472 posts)HERVEPA
(6,107 posts)HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)Some gas-bag living in Mexico says he's going to move to Vermont and challange Sanders? I'm pretty sure of Vermonters response....
HERVEPA
(6,107 posts)GoneFishin
(5,217 posts)YouDig
(2,280 posts)Bringing everyone together would mean, not that he's lost, endorsing Hillary and unifying the party to defeat Trump. Bernie is doing the opposite of that, he's dividing the party.
Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)yardwork
(61,533 posts)JimDandy
(7,318 posts)ratings and abysmal genuiness ratings; lack enthusiastic supporters and need the DNC and media to prop them up full-time, from start to finish.
That sounds like some other candidate. It's certainly not Bernie. But, hey VT, like every other state in this economy, could use the infusion of money from Giordano's doomed run.
CrowCityDem
(2,348 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)Bernie has long served Vermont and he won the Vermont primary by over 86%, so they must be okay with him. If Giordano wins it as a carpetbagger, that will really be something.
But this signals something else. The Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee has never supported a Democrat who wants to challenge Sanders and Sanders has been the candidate of the Vermont Democratic Party, even though he doesn't accept that nomination.
Are the DSCC and the VDP going to punish Sanders for running for President as a Democrat? If so, why?
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)It seems TPTB don't like the curtain being pulled back.
eastwestdem
(1,220 posts)anymore. Please don't drop Bernie!!
CobaltBlue
(1,122 posts)GoldenSF
(27 posts)I'm not understanding why Hillary supporters continue to spike the football. Why can't you be a gracious winner?
It doesn't win friends. Please understand that the side that doesn't win needs time and space. What they don't need is continued attacks. You won, ok? Time to be conciliatory.
Lizzie Poppet
(10,164 posts)I expect no better of them.
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)Alex4Martinez
(2,191 posts)It's sad to watch.
It's easy to see how many on the right, low information voters and bigots, vote down public works projects and the like in their rejection of any form of government program.
But now, with crystal clear evidence that Clinton is not very progressive we see endless Bernie bashing and support for the oligarchy all in the name of I don't know what.
SidDithers
(44,228 posts)I mean, Bernie's a a Democrat now, right? Surely he'll be running as a Dem in 2018.
Right?
Sid
itsrobert
(14,157 posts)DU Rules come into play.
Lizzie Poppet
(10,164 posts)...a fuckwit of the highest order.
But if this dipshit wants to try and carpetbag his way into the Senate in Vermont, (and if Bernie decides to seek reelection, which I suspect he won't), then at least he'll provide some unintentional comedy.
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)He won't get any traction in Vermont. It will be good comedy, and a deserved big embarrassment to the third Way.
Exilednight
(9,359 posts)Response to Skwmom (Original post)
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RufusTFirefly
(8,812 posts)... the help of SuperPACs and Establishment endorsements.
Imagine how this must terrify the Powers That Be.
They need to nip this insurrection in the bud before others are tempted to follow his lead.
Personally, I would recommend against flying to Eveleth, Minnesota.
MariaThinks
(2,495 posts)GreatGazoo
(3,937 posts)Snotcicles
(9,089 posts)"Truth has very few friends and those few are suicides"
MineralMan
(146,248 posts)We should stop doing that, I think, and join forces.
I'm game. How about you?
amborin
(16,631 posts)the clinton campaign has resorted to constant racial and ethnic divisiveness