California's record registration fails to result in record turnout

[J_J_]

http://www.dailynews.com/government-and-politics/20160608/why-californias-record-voter-registration-failed-to-result-in-record-turnout

Votes for Hillary are down from 2006

Hillary Clinton’s base of support appears to have hit its high watermark eight years ago.

Hillary Clinton Eau Claire yawnThe election results from the California and New Jersey primaries are just the latest examples of the contraction of enthusiasm her campaign seems to be experiencing.

With 94.4% of precincts reporting, Clinton won 1,841,285 votes in California on Tuesday, compared to Bernie Sanders’s 1,416,742, Politico reports.

That’s nearly a 30% drop in total support from 2008, when she received 2,608,184 votes, or 51.47%. (Barack Obama got 2,186,662 votes or 43.16%.)

The results weren’t much better in New Jersey. While Clinton won the state — as she did in 2008 — she saw a decline in support there, too.

On Tuesday, Clinton received 542,656 votes, or 63.35% of the ballots cast compared to Sanders’s 315,194 votes, according to the Politico totals.

That’s a 13% decline in support from her 2008 turnout, when she received 613,500 votes — or 53.76% of the total votes, compared to 501,374 ballots cast for Obama.

http://www.theamericanmirror.com/hillarys-ca-support-falls-30-2008/


I find this to be very suspicious and do not buy the regular excuses we have all already heard.

Isn't it possible that someone used the fractional voting software feature which allowed them to set Bernie's votes to say 65% of the actual total?

"fractional vote feature is embedded in each GEMS application which can be used to invisibly, yet radically, alter election outcomes by pre-setting desired vote percentages to redistribute votes."

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12512017617

I am sure I will be called a conspiracy theorist but I would ask those people to kindly explain why the fractional voting feature is included in the voting software at all?

[CrowCityDem]

1. Or it could just be that Clinton/Obama was the race of a lifetime, revolution be damned.

[eastwestdem]

13. Exactly, the 2008 race was much closer. Remeber that Hillary won the popular vote. nt

[NurseJackie]

17. Hatred of GWB and eagerness to participate in ushering in someone new ...

... played a big role in that too, I'll bet.

[tonyt53]

3. Conspiracy theorist? Nah. But gullible, yes. Even with those total, she still hammered Bernie.

Ever think for a minute that those people that newly registered would actually voted have or Hillary if they had voted?

[geek tragedy]

4. they're registering to vote against Trump. nt

[itsrobert]

8. Exactly, huge drive by hispanics to register to vote and Trump is the reason

They will vote in November.

[grossproffit]

5. The 2008 primary was in early February NOT June.

[Starry Messenger]

6. Young people didn't turn out.

http://ww2.kqed.org/news/2016/06/08/analyst-surge-in-younger-voters-failed-to-materialize-in-california-primary

Turnout for the California primary, which some expected to be pumped up by a surge in registrations among younger voters, fell short of analysts’ expectations. One major factor in that lower-than-anticipated turnout: For the most part, an analysis of vote-by-mail ballots suggests, those younger voters simply didn’t participate.

Paul Mitchell, vice president of Sacramento-based Political Data Inc., noted Wednesday that people under 35 made up more than half of 2.3 million new voters who registered before the primary, indicating an enthusiasm for the contest. And he says those younger voters told pollsters they would cast ballots.

“But then when they got the ballot with the 34 candidates for Senate, and who’s my congressman, and what’s this ballot proposition, and where do I keep a stamp and all these things … they kind of fell off and they didn’t participate in the same numbers,” Mitchell said.

[procon]

14. That's the hard truth that Sanders & company haven't been able to swallow.

The youth vote is all about group enthusiasm, fun, friends, and exciting moments that make the heart swell with spontaneous emotion. Unfortunately that's a fleeting passion that doesn't always translate into getting those cheering, boisterous young people off to do the actual boring chore of doing their civic duty in voting without the accompaniment of a cheering crowd.

A lot of it has to do with having a good ground team who are making repeated follow up calls and social networking contacts to keep the newest voters engaged. It means having a plan for actually getting those voters out to the polling place. Hillary had a large and experienced team coordination the get out the vote effort in Calif, and she simply outlasted and outplayed Sanders best efforts.

[Xithras]

7. I think the answer is much simpler than that.

I've already met three Bernie supporters who have admitted that they didn't vote, because the election was essentially called the day before the California primary and they didn't see the point. To them, voting wasn't about "making a statement" but about actually getting him elected. Once that was taken off the table, their reason for voting fizzled.

I believe that the announcement, the day before the California primary, did exactly what it was intended to do.

[lunamagica]

11. Then support for him was really soft. I was afraid Hillary voters would stay home thinking

"she won, so why bother", but they went ahead and voted.

That's the difference between Clinton and Sanders voters. Sanders voters are always complaining about how hard it is to register, the system being too complicated...every little obstacle prevents them from voting. So while his supporters spent time in those so cool, exciting rallies, Clinton supporters found out what they need to do in order to vote. Yes, voting can be tedious and complicated, but you do what you have to do in order to vote.

Clinton Supporters are committed to vote, and things like media announcements don't stop therm. That's what we need in the GE

[Lizzie Poppet]

9. Thanks, Associated Press.

And by "thanks," I mean "die in a fire."

[Lodestar]

10. So our votes didn't count when placed for Bernie

but if we will only vote for Hillary we can be sure they will
ALL count. Suddenly the irregularities will all go away.
I think we can end this charade right now. If
we all choose not to vote we can still be assured Hillary will
will be selected. Just stay home and take a nap or protest
in the streets. But our purportedly "Democratic E-lection"
is rigged

[Ace Rothstein]

15. Please loosen the tinfoil.

[Demsrule86]

12. The race was competititive in O8 and earlier too.

This time it really did not matter.

[Octafish]

16. I know! It's like the AP announced the winner beforehand or something.

Who knew?