2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumNPR: Bitter Rivals To Allies: How President Obama Evolved On Hillary Clinton
Interesting read.
Back in 2008, Barack Obama helped keep Hillary Clinton out of the White House.
Now he's endorsing her bid for president.
And he is likely to be one of her best campaign weapons.
"I've gotten to know Hillary really well," the president told Glenn Thrush on a Politico podcast. "She is a good, smart, tough person who cares deeply about this country."
http://www.npr.org/2016/06/09/480645291/bitter-rivals-to-allies-how-president-obama-evolved-on-hillary-clinton
grasswire
(50,130 posts)Brave new world.
Bye bye sovereignty.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)Florencenj2point0
(435 posts)not good performance art though, don't quit your day job.
Lizzie Poppet
(10,164 posts)I may vomit.
grasswire
(50,130 posts)That any efforts toward change, toward hope, toward a better world free of oligarchs and wars and debt and mass incarceration and lies and corruption is all hype? All for nothing???
If I were 20 years old right now, I think I might feel betrayed, and dismal, and alienated from the whole damned process.
The only thing holding young Americans on right now is Bernie. The future is theirs, not belonging to Boomers or Seniors. We know their allegiance. We see what gives them hope.
And Obama has just joined with Hillary to betray them.
Lord Magus
(1,999 posts)Bernie Sanders is not a messiah. He is not some prophesied chosen one, the only person who can save America.
grasswire
(50,130 posts)Lord Magus
(1,999 posts)TheKentuckian
(25,023 posts)to even push toward some balance of power for the people.
djean111
(14,255 posts)They don't get caught up in the "loyalty to the party" bullshit, either. They will just go back to tuning the blather out and trying to find jobs and pay off student debt.
grasswire
(50,130 posts)Look what's happening in France.
The new generation is not going to tolerate the politics of the past. Especially when it is pushed on them by a bunch of fossils in either party.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)For one thing, "politics of the past" is just an election slogan. We are always dealing with the politics of the present. Politics is always fluid and contributed to by many tens of thousands of power bases, all intent on their current issues.
Although many bad elements have gotten into government,and we must get rid of them, there are many good people too. Extremely unfortunate for our notion of citizen lawmakers, elective office is no more a job for amateurs than medicine or law are, so we really need to identify and protect our good people from any efforts of the ignorant to toss them all out.
As for the major theme of your post, people older than 35 or so are going to be around for a very, very, very long time, while those under 35 are not. We really, really need young people to vote more; however, as it is, by the time most members of that younger group learn to paying attention and voting, they are aging out of it, a "structural" weakness if you will. Short version, don't hang your hopes on a kiddie putsch.
Lizzie Poppet
(10,164 posts)I can only imagine the disconnect between millennials and HRC.
Florencenj2point0
(435 posts)no trophies for participation.
Agnosticsherbet
(11,619 posts)Thanks for posting.
MyNameGoesHere
(7,638 posts)the #bitterbern to deal with. Pumas were tame compared. I am sure after today he will be an enemy of the Sanders supporters.
democrattotheend
(11,605 posts)They were just as nasty if not moreso.
Oddly, it seems none of the PUMA's who got banned from here in 2008 came back after the election, at least not that I have noticed. And a lot of the Hillary folks here were Obama 2008 supporters (although I would bet that almost all of the Bernie supporters here were too).
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Florencenj2point0
(435 posts)40 % said they would not vote for him. In the end most did. But now only 15 percent of berners say they won't vote for Hillary. I was PUMA. I did't vote for him but would have it my blue state had any chance of going red. For me it was one to many Caribou Barbie jokes directed at Palin. After having to take the sexism directed at Hillary, having it then turned on Palin disgusted me.
Skwmom
(12,685 posts)$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)QC
(26,371 posts)grossproffit
(5,591 posts)TSIAS
(14,689 posts)I will never forgive or forget the actions of Hillary Clinton and her cohorts during the 2008 campaign.
I understand that the greater good was done by Obama reaching out to Clinton. He needed to win the election, and having the Clintons on his side was instrumental. Now is the time to return that favor.