"I don’t think there’s ever been someone so qualified to hold this office" -PBO

[lunamagica]

What an AWESOME, SPOT-ON, DESERVED ENDORSEMENT!!!

[bonemachine]

1. I prefer the Carter one

[farleftlib]

2. Word

When Jimmy Carter says that, you know it's gone past the point of no return. I surely do miss him,
and the US of A.

[bonemachine]

44. as someone who was born under ronnie raygun

It still seems like a pipe dream that Carter never fought a war....

[Number23]

3. Why don't you provide a bit of context? Like when that quote was made and to whom it was referring?

Hint: It wasn't an "endorsement" of Hillary, it had nothing to do with her. It was in response to Citizens United, if I remember correctly.

But thanks for trying your absolute damndest to try to make this a Democrat vs Democrat thing. And you guys wonder why so many want all of this garbage from your side to stop.

[hamsterjill]

4. +1

The facts DO tend to get in the way sometimes, don't they???!!!

[Surya Gayatri]

5. They will soon be officially "persona non grata". Only 7 days and counting.

[Number23]

8. Carter's quote also refers to Congresspeople, including SENATORS

But I know the "oligarchy!!1 oligarchEEEEEE!!!1one" crowd doesn't want to go there.

[bonemachine]

9. Yup!

"And the same thing applies to governors and U.S. senators and congress members. So now we’ve just seen a complete subversion of our political system as a payoff to major contributors, who want and expect and sometimes get favors for themselves after the election’s over. … The incumbents, Democrats and Republicans, look upon this unlimited money as a great benefit to themselves. Somebody’s who’s already in Congress has a lot more to sell to an avid contributor than somebody who’s just a challenger."

Gee, who does that sound like...

[Number23]

11. That sounds like Carter is talking about the problems with the system and EVERYONE in it. But

certain individuals are trying to act as though he's only condemning one person, and even going so far as to superimpose his quote onto a picture of that one person in order to bolster their lies.

Gee, who does THAT sound like??

[bonemachine]

13. ...the one person

who is most relevant to his quote currently? You know, the presumptive nominee for president of the Democratic party...

[Number23]

16. That quote had NOTHING to do with Hillary Clinton. It's clear you have no understanding of when or

why the quote was made. Probably happens when you do a search on "image to slam Clinton with" and just go with the first thing that comes up.

The quote was a condemnation of everyone in Congress and the entire political system. Truth to be told and if you want to get seriously pedantic about it, that quote is more representative of Sanders -- who was a member of the Senate when that quote was made -- than Clinton who was not in any office when Carter made his statement.

Here is more info on the quote. http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/videos/jimmy-carter-u-s-is-an-oligarchy-with-unlimited-political-bribery-20150731

[OregonBlue]

22. Agreed. Just went to the internets and looked "how to slame Clinton". Ridiculous.

[gollygee]

37. She is not by a long shot the person who is most relevant to that quote currently

And the quote has absolutely nothing to do with her and never has.

[bonemachine]

45. obviously I am totally wrong

And a recent quote about the state of the nomination process for the president has ABSOLUTELY no relevance to any current major party nominee for president. It's just absolutely insane that I would make that connection at all.

[rusty quoin]

53. +1

It's the system. Back in the 70s and before it was a better system. We are trying to change the present system. It will be a hard fought battle. Even Nixon was more liberal than today's Republicans.

[seabeyond]

10. Right, a Democtaic issue, not a Sanders issue. An issue Obama and Clinton have been addressing long

before Sanders ever stuck his toe in.

[bonemachine]

14. Well, Obama made some efforts to get big money out...

and the DNC shot that right the fuck down. So, sorta?

[bonemachine]

51. do you remember

Or did this already get jammed down the memory hole?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/dnc-allowing-donations-from-federal-lobbyists-and-pacs/2016/02/12/22b1c38c-d196-11e5-88cd-753e80cd29ad_story.html

By Tom Hamburger and Paul Kane PoliticsFebruary 12
The Democratic National Committee has rolled back restrictions introduced by presidential candidate Barack Obama in 2008 that banned donations from federal lobbyists and political action committees.

The decision was viewed with disappointment Friday morning by good government activists who saw it as a step backward in the effort to limit special interest influence in Washington. Some suggested it could provide an advantage to Hillary Clinton’s fundraising efforts.

[bvf]

26. And you're looking at the poster child for

Citizens United, right there.

That should be context enough for anyone.

[Number23]

39. Pretty sure that Glenn Greenwald still holds that title. But thanks for chiming in

[bvf]

40. Not anymore.

https://www.publicintegrity.org/2016/04/07/19521/how-citizens-united-helping-hillary-clinton-win-white-house

Call it leapfrog, or whatever suits you.

[Number23]

55. Her own words sing a completely different tune

http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2015/05/19/today-in-politics-clinton-says-citizens-united-would-guide-her-supreme-court-picks/

and that's the one I'll be listening to.

[bvf]

57. Her own words?

LOL!

Think "Bosnian sniper fire."

You positively kill me, you do!

[Number23]

58. Giggling while high fiving somebody's trumped up image of Carter's quote as if it was about Hillary

You're the real arbiter of honesty, aren't ya??

But I'm sure you swooned over Sanders' 4 am "meeting" with the Pope too.

[bvf]

60. Three words:

Bosnian.

Sniper.

Fire.


And kindly find me any instance of me "swooning" over anyone who conceals child abusers from justice.

Take your time. I'll wait here.

On edit:

Fuck the pope.

[Number23]

61. I have never seen anyone try to change a subject and jump over the truth as much as you do.

In a thread that started out with someone posting a blatant distortion about what Jimmy Carter said re: Citizens United, you have tried -- TWICE now -- to change the subject to sniper fire and are now trying to pivot to child abusers.

And what's mildly terrifying is that I genuinely think that YOU think your posts make sense. There are far more interesting, less disturbed people to talk to here so I'll let you get back to arguing with yourself. I have a feeling you've had tons of practice at it.

[bvf]

62. *You* brought up the pope, not me.

You also brought up the question of Clinton's own words, not me.

Project away. It's fun to watch.

Still waiting for that example of "swooning" you seem to think exists. Quite a delusion you have there. No doubt it's just one of a complete set.

[lunamagica]

19. He didn't mention her name. But he will mention it soon, when he endorses her

[bonemachine]

35. I'm sure he will be a good Democrat and support her...

But I don't feel like he has a particularly high opinion of her from the few direct quotes I can find. For example, his opinion of her as a SoS as regards the Middle East:

“In this occasion, when Secretary Clinton was Secretary of State, she took very little action to bring about peace. It was only John Kerry’s coming into office that reinitiated all these very important and crucial issues,”


When asked directly, in front of the House of Lords, if he supported Sanders or Clinton, he gave a very political answer, and spoke for several minutes without actually answering the question. The closest he got was:

"So I don't know what the final result will be. I think my own personal opinion is that it's very likely that Hillary Clinton will still prevail in the Democratic Party, and of course I'm a Democrat and I'll be supporting the Democratic nominee. Bernie Sanders, though, has had a remarkable showing, particularly among young people. In public opinion polls in Iowa he had about 85 percent of support among
young people, and Hillary only had about 13 percent among young people. That's just reverse of what Obama did. Bernie Sanders had the same advantage in the young people as did Obama in 2008."


The most positive quote I've found so far extolls her political skills, which is rather damning with faint praise, if you ask me:

"I think she and Bill together have made probably the most acutely aware and knowledgeable and competent of political team that we’ve ever seen. And I think they maintained their close ties with the Democratic Party."

[gollygee]

38. I think he's right where I am

Which is, "I like Bernie better but Hillary is ok." That isn't damning. People often don't get their first choice on the ticket, and we've always been OK with that in the past. Why is this year different?

[bonemachine]

42. why?

Because the difference between the Democratic candidates was real, stark and obvious, that's why. Even if you can't stand Sanders, you have to admit he did an amazing job of differentiating himself and of engaging voters that have been historically disengaged.

[Loudestlib]

29. I like his original one.

"Hillary Clinton. She’ll say anything, and change nothing. It’s time to turn the page." Obama 2008

[bonemachine]

43. Obama in 2008 was something else...

He seemed like such a breath of fresh air. Hell, that motherfucker got him a Nobel Prize for not being Bush. I was skeptical then, but at least when he got elected I could watch the state of the union without feeling like I should put a brick through my teevee...

[Stinky The Clown]

47. Why Bonemachine, how quaint. A liar.

Implying that Jimmy Carter said that about Clinton is . . . . . wait for it . . . . . a LIE.

Shame on you.

[bonemachine]

48. waittaminnit

Is Clinton not a presidential nominee? Because I could swear..

[Stinky The Clown]

50. Ohstoppit. You know what you were implying.

Have a swell stay here at the DU.

Buh bye.

[bonemachine]

52. yes

I was implying that Carters comments are relevant and accurate. Also, I've got seniority on you

[sheshe2]

6. K&R!

[qdouble]

7. Attributing quotes to the wrong people and taking them out of context is an age old traditon

[bonemachine]

12. Right!

Because Jimmy Carter didn't say that, and it's absolutely out of context to talk about his comments about the presidential nomination process during the presidential nomination process...

[qdouble]

18. I didn't say he didn't say that, I just named two traditions. As far as the taking it out of

context part, he absolutely didn't use those words to refer to Hillary... nor do you know that he thinks she represents the oligarchy... therefore, it's out of context.

[lunamagica]

24. What? Is this a joke? The quote is from a video where he is endorsing her. He is talking about her

[qdouble]

27. oh shit, my bad, I intended it to be reply to the poster who posted a pic of Hillary with the Jimmy

Carter quote, not a reply to the main thread, lol

[lunamagica]

28. Is this context enough for you?

"I know how hard this job can be, that’s why I know Hillary will be so good at it,” Obama says in the video. “In fact I don’t think there’s ever been someone so qualified to hold this office. She’s got the courage, the compassion and the heart to get this job done.”

PBO

[qdouble]

31. It was a mistake, I intended to reply to the pic of Hillary with the Jimmy Carter quote

[lunamagica]

33. Oh, OK, I thought this was about the endorsement...I was really scratching

my head when you said he wasn't talking about her

[lunamagica]

17. Huh? That's what he said, word for word. Watch the video

[qdouble]

20. I didn't say he didn't say that, I name two things that are internet traditions.

The second was applicable. He wasn't referring to Clinton and you have no idea if he considers her that way.

[qdouble]

30. My bad, just realize I replied to the main thread instead of under of the Pic of Hillary with the

Jimmy Carter quote.... ooops, lol

[boston bean]

15. He is 100% correctomundo!

[eastwestdem]

21. I agree with our president!! nt

[OregonBlue]

23. I also agree with the president.

[Martin Eden]

25. I always thought good judgment in matters of War & Peace was a key qualification

Oh well, perhaps it's not all that important.

[texstad79]

32. Yay for PBO and HRC! n/t

[Thinkingabout]

34. Thank you, President Obama, a good endorsement.

[Maru Kitteh]

36. That video was VERY INSPIRING. just tugged the heart strings.

So damn proud of both of them and this country.

I had lost faith during the Bush II years that I would see a President of color or a woman in the Oval Office in my lifetime.

I remember being very, very young when Shirley Chisolm ran and hearing racist relatives in absolute apoplexy "Why is she even being allowed to say she's running?" They were certain that, first of all, the constitution said only MEN could run for president and second of all - "She's black!!! Who on Earth does she think she is??!!"

I am thrilled to the marrow that I have seen the successful 2-term Presidency of Barack Obama, and I look forward to watching Hillary Clinton sworn in as the President of the United States.

[jg10003]

41. I wonder what Al Gore thought when he heard that.

[840high]

54. I wonder what FDR is thinking?

[avaistheone1]

46. I can sincerely say I don't agree at all with the President's statement.

[Skwmom]

49. I am still waiting for a list of her ACCOMPLISHMENTS.

[peace13]

56. Kicking in hopes that someone will answer! : )

inquiring minds want to know!

[LoverOfLiberty]

63. She beat Bernie Sanders

for one.

[Live and Learn]

59. He must have been talking about Bernie. Such an apt description of him. nt