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Florencenj2point0

(435 posts)
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 08:38 PM Jun 2016

Do not hamstring EW as VP

What a waste of talent. There is no doubt in my mind that Hillary would give her VP a ton of power just as Bill did Al Gore, but still, the senate is the place for Senator Warren. Let us imagine a great partnership between her and Hillary after Hillary is elected president. Oh the legislation they could dream up and pass! Get Bernie in on the deal, WOW!

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Do not hamstring EW as VP (Original Post) Florencenj2point0 Jun 2016 OP
Senate majority leader would be perfect. Nightmares for the GOP tonyt53 Jun 2016 #1
YES Florencenj2point0 Jun 2016 #9
Chair of the Banking committee puts her in charge of that karynnj Jun 2016 #19
Reid wants her out of the way. TheCowsCameHome Jun 2016 #2
What are you talking about? Reid is retiring. joshcryer Jun 2016 #3
So he's pushing for her as VP. TheCowsCameHome Jun 2016 #5
This is nuts. If anything it is Schumer who should be afraid. JonLeibowitz Jun 2016 #7
It's her decision MFM008 Jun 2016 #4
Exactly. It is really up to her. FSogol Jun 2016 #17
Maybe we should trust a grown woman to make her own decision. sufrommich Jun 2016 #6
I don't think she wants it Florencenj2point0 Jun 2016 #10
As VP Liz would be neutralized, her seat would go to a Republican. immoderate Jun 2016 #8
go eat a bug Florencenj2point0 Jun 2016 #12
. immoderate Jun 2016 #13
Her seat will very likely revert to the Democrats early in 2017 karynnj Jun 2016 #20
A Warren VP is just to get her out of the way so she won't keep their feet to the fire. pdsimdars Jun 2016 #21
Both Sanders and Warren are far more valuable in the Senate. George Eliot Jun 2016 #11
I love Al Franken Florencenj2point0 Jun 2016 #15
Plus Hillary could never stand for her VP to be more popular than she is..n/t monmouth4 Jun 2016 #14
yeah, you can go eat a bug to. Florencenj2point0 Jun 2016 #16
Too... monmouth4 Jun 2016 #18
Completely agree. reflection Jun 2016 #22

Florencenj2point0

(435 posts)
9. YES
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 09:00 PM
Jun 2016

Unfortunately Schumer is next but he won't be there forever. What seat would put her in charge of banking?

karynnj

(59,498 posts)
19. Chair of the Banking committee puts her in charge of that
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 09:19 AM
Jun 2016

To have her there, means the Democrats need the majority and that many people in line with more seniority pass. Currently, if the Democrats regained control, Senator Sherrod Brown will chair the committee. He is a strong progressive. Here is the list in order - http://www.banking.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/membership As to her other committees, Maria Cantwell is the ranking member on energy and will chair that. Patty Murray is the ranking member and will chair HELP. Her other assignment is a special committee on aging - where McCaskill is ranking member.

Many people listed below Reed have actually waived chairing that committee, but have more service. Reed is chair of Armed Services, Schumer is in the leadership and is the likely successor to Reid, Menendez headed SFRC until he had to step down from the chair due to legal problems.

The Senate very much runs on seniority, which Warren has little of giving her less official power than her relative prominence would dictate. (This was the situation of HRC in late 2008 as well - she did not chair a committee.) However, unlike in 2008, when there were many many Democrats into their 4th plus terms, many have left or are leaving, but as can be seen there were many Democrats elected in 2006 and 2008 - all ahead of her. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seniority_in_the_United_States_Senate


As VP, what she works on will be determined by the President and she would have very little independent power. However, there are many things that HRC has backed that Warren has led on and could advocate more powerfully for as President.

TheCowsCameHome

(40,167 posts)
2. Reid wants her out of the way.
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 08:41 PM
Jun 2016

She is rocking his boat, and I'm all for that.

She is far more valuable in the Senate.

TheCowsCameHome

(40,167 posts)
5. So he's pushing for her as VP.
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 08:46 PM
Jun 2016

A back bench "You die, I fly" job?

She's making too many waves in the hall of Congress. Which, BTW, is beautiful.

Florencenj2point0

(435 posts)
10. I don't think she wants it
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 09:02 PM
Jun 2016

I could be wrong. Plus after 8 years she will to old to run for President. IMO we really need to pass on the Oval office to the GenXers.

 

immoderate

(20,885 posts)
8. As VP Liz would be neutralized, her seat would go to a Republican.
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 08:56 PM
Jun 2016

We need to maintain checks on the presidency. Warren cannot monitor executive corruption from the Naval Observatory.

--imm

karynnj

(59,498 posts)
20. Her seat will very likely revert to the Democrats early in 2017
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 09:23 AM
Jun 2016

The law in MA is now that the GOV appoints an interim Senator and a special election is called. Yes, I know that is how Scott Brown won in 2010, but it is also how Senator Markey won. There are many potential Democrats ... and Scott Brown would have to move back from NH and hope people don't remember that they decided they didn't like him.

George Eliot

(701 posts)
11. Both Sanders and Warren are far more valuable in the Senate.
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 09:06 PM
Jun 2016

Isn't Schumer, a fellow Democrat from NY a shoo in? He and Hillary are already strongly allied. The only member of the senate's progressive caucus is Bernie. No others, not even Sherrod Brown or Jeff Merkley The few House names that stood out were Ellison, Conyers, Lewis and McDermott who retired. That's why Bernie was so careful to advocate for particular Democrats. He wants real progressives. Chuck Todd today said that Americans are not progressive but center left. IMO, FDR was not center left. He was a real progressive. And the country loved him.

I personally like Franken because he's younger and has a passion for net neutrality.. Not sure that's possible but that's my pick.

Florencenj2point0

(435 posts)
15. I love Al Franken
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 08:51 AM
Jun 2016

Years ago he gave the address at his daughters graduation from Harvard, it was one of the best I have ever seen. I would be good with him!
Here is the text:

http://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2002/06/class-day-address-june-5th-2002-al-franken-73/

reflection

(6,286 posts)
22. Completely agree.
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 09:41 AM
Jun 2016

She has proven to be an extremely effective Senator. I would hate to see her relegated to the veep slot. But I suppose it doesn't matter what we think. Que sera sera.

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