I'm a Bernie supporter and I will vote HRC if Warren is VP

[masmdu]

I would feel comfortable with this ticket and if anything comes of HRCs email I'd be thrilled with President Warren.

[brooklynite]

1. ...and if she doesn't pick her?

[masmdu]

2. Will likely vote down ticket only.

[Rosco T.]

10. Trump thanks your for your support

since that would effectively be a +1 for the GOP

[Scootaloo]

19. No, only an actual vote for Trump is a +1 for Trump

A vote for neither candidate is a +0 to both of them.

[Rosco T.]

33. Lets have some basic math shall we?

Candidate R: 100 Voters
Candidate D: 125 Voters

everyone votes, Candidate D wins


Candidate R: 100 Votes
Candidate D: 95 voters vote for their party, 30 sit home and pout or protest vote for someone else

Candidate R wins.

Math. It's Science

[WolverineDG]

35. Um, nope, that's not how it works.

"Candidate R: 100 Votes
Candidate D: 95 voters vote for their party, 30 sit home and pout or protest vote for someone else

Candidate R wins."




Actually, that should be: 95 voters vote for their party. 30 others do not because neither Candidate D nor his/her supporters reached out to them & gave them real reasons to vote for him/her (other than "Candidate D is inevitable" or "If you don't vote for Candidate D, Candidate R will win.&quot like a real politician & party concerned for the country's future (as opposed to the resume of Candidate D) would.

There, fixed that for ya.

[BzaDem]

41. This is kind of basic logic. Its truth doesn't depend on one's agreement with it.

If 30 don't vote for the D candidate, R wins. If they do vote for the D candidate, than D wins.

They have every right to knowingly and willingly enable the R candidate's victory. But that just means they don't really value the R candidate losing. There are plenty of places that have plenty of people who don't want the R candidate to lose. I'm just surprised they would come here of all places.

[Scootaloo]

37. It doesn't get more basic than 1 + 0 = 1

You're hinging your argument on the fallacy that candidates "own" votes. They don't. You don't have 100 voters "owned" by one candidate and 125 "owned" by another. Rather you have a pool of 225 voters that all of the candidates are competing for.

[phleshdef]

3. I'm a Bernie supporter and I will vote HRC if Satan himself is her VP.

I'm kinda joking, but really I'm not. I live in Ohio where I don't have the luxury of voting 3rd party. Trump must not be elected. He must be crushed.

[democrattotheend]

12. "Luxury of voting third party"

I find that term amusing. I am in New York so I have the luxury of being able to vote third party, but I'd gladly trade it for the "luxury" of having my vote matter. Even though I am in NY I will still probably vote for Hillary, but if I were in OH it would be a no brainer.

[brooklynite]

17. In fairness, Satan has always had a strong civil rights platform...

[Maru Kitteh]

39. this is true

[BeyondGeography]

26. Thank you

[Maru Kitteh]

38. THANK YOU!!!!

I hope you have your flame suit on, but THANK YOU!!!!!

[Bleacher Creature]

4. Disgusting.

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[masmdu]

5. Learn to read. Your highlighted implication doesn't fit. Disgusting

[Bleacher Creature]

6. Was referring the reply in post #2

[masmdu]

8. Which still doesn't say what you claim it does.

[840high]

9. I see nothing disgusting.

[hollowdweller]

7. I want Perez as VP

Younger than either Hillary or Warren. Great at explaining.

[MinnesotaRob]

34. Is Perez Hilton old enough to run as VP?

[Buzz cook]

11. Warren doesn't seem to want the position

Sorry to have to tell you that.

[JCMach1]

13. Did you watch the same MSNBC interview I just saw?

She is ready, willing and able.

[Buzz cook]

15. No she said

She was ready and able. She said nothing about willing.

[JCMach1]

32. Hmmm, she said she would do whatever was necessary to keep Trump from getting elected

(paraphrase). She repeated that several times in the interview.

If that isn't signalling that you would accept a VP nod, I don't know what is.

[masmdu]

16. Not sure about that...

https://mobile.twitter.com/businessinsider/status/741103129345822720?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

[DianaForRussFeingold]

14. After all, she was first choice!

Just, sayin.

[Agnosticsherbet]

18. Together we will kick Trump's Rump.

[CobaltBlue]

20. masmdu—You should prefer Elizabeth Warren staying in the U.S. Senate

It really comes down to having power.

Vice president seems very appealing; but, after the election is over, v.p. is a supporting and recurring backseat role.

[Live and Learn]

22. +1000 nt

[pdsimdars]

28. ^^^^^^^^^^^ Amen! ^^^^^^^^^^^

It would be a waste of talent.

[athena]

40. Agreed.

I get the impression that many people here don't realize what the job of VP actually entails.

[bigwillq]

23. Hello

Welcome to DU!

[Florencenj2point0]

24. big of you

but you don't get to chose

[Lizzie Poppet]

25. The only way I could stomach that...

...would be if I thought it was genuinely likely that Hillary's inevitable impeachment was going to be sustained by the Senate. Otherwise, sacrificing one of the most effective genuine progressives in the Senate just to become a neutered, ceremonial mouthpiece for a venal corporatist president seems like a truly terrible idea.

[pdsimdars]

29. I appreciate the way you really think things through. Nice job.

[pdsimdars]

27. At first I thought this was a GREAT idea, but then I had another thought

how much influence did Biden's liberalism have on Obama?
How much influence will Warren really have over the Hillary machine?
Once she talked Hillary out of supporting that bankruptcy bill, but in the end, Hillary voted for it. Whose policies do you think will prevail? Seriously.

[Lizzie Poppet]

31. You hit the nail on the head.

[Faux pas]

30. It will be a total coup

if Warren hooks up with hrc. Warren would lose a whole bunch of credibility with me if she totally sells out for that.

[That Guy 888]

36. I hope Warren isn't her VP

Clinton has a habit of using people as political meat shields and that would hurt Warren's Presidential run.

We need Warren in the Senate. I think that was one of President Obama's big political mistakes, pulling elected Democrats out of office to work in his administration who were replaced by republicans.