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The Far Left

(59 posts)
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 07:48 AM Jun 2016

Did Google Manipulate Search Results to Help Hillary Clinton? (VIDEO)

And, if so, did Google report this service as a contribution to Hillary's campaign?

Is this legal?


http://usuncut.com/politics/google-may-alter-clinton-searches/




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Did Google Manipulate Search Results to Help Hillary Clinton? (VIDEO) (Original Post) The Far Left Jun 2016 OP
Ancient Alien Theorists will be along shortly to confirm that "if so" part ... JoePhilly Jun 2016 #1
Try watching the video. They use the search engine in real time. Ash_F Jun 2016 #4
Bing and Google never act the same way ... the algorithms ... JoePhilly Jun 2016 #7
Did you watch the video? nt The Far Left Jun 2016 #9
Funny how this "story" only appears in 1-2 far left sites but a whole bunch of far-right ones Tarc Jun 2016 #2
Watch the whole thing. Ash_F Jun 2016 #6
Is there something in the following that you are confused by? Tarc Jun 2016 #11
I wonder if this also includes a user's previous pattern of search terms and results links clicked. NurseJackie Jun 2016 #14
You didn't watch the whole thing... Ash_F Jun 2016 #15
Yes, in fact, I did Tarc Jun 2016 #16
I replicated all the Google and Bing searches yesterday in the video and got the same widely PufPuf23 Jun 2016 #17
As more people search for a term with associated words Tarc Jun 2016 #18
I understand. PufPuf23 Jun 2016 #19
Well, SOMETHING has to account for Sanders not winning! randome Jun 2016 #3
Welcome to DU! stonecutter357 Jun 2016 #5
This is about as on par as this... Blue_Adept Jun 2016 #8
That is awesome and supports what I said yesterday about the Democratic Party ditching labor for WhaTHellsgoingonhere Jun 2016 #10
"We assume the results and recommendations offered by that autocomplete are things people have Brickbat Jun 2016 #12
+1 JoePhilly Jun 2016 #13

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
1. Ancient Alien Theorists will be along shortly to confirm that "if so" part ...
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 07:49 AM
Jun 2016

...with some more nonsense.

Ash_F

(5,861 posts)
4. Try watching the video. They use the search engine in real time.
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 07:53 AM
Jun 2016

Surprising stuff. They also show that bing does not behave in the same way.

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
7. Bing and Google never act the same way ... the algorithms ...
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 07:56 AM
Jun 2016

... are different ... the data they track about your search behavior and web usage is different.

And so they provide different results.

If they worked exactly the same, there would be no need for both to exist.

Tarc

(10,595 posts)
2. Funny how this "story" only appears in 1-2 far left sites but a whole bunch of far-right ones
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 07:51 AM
Jun 2016

Google's autocomplete functions by popularity of the search; if more -people look for a thing, it will bubble to the top.

The irony here is that now thousands of Bernie and Trump people are going to google to replicate it, which just pushes Hillary to the top even further.

Tarc

(10,595 posts)
11. Is there something in the following that you are confused by?
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 08:11 AM
Jun 2016
“Autocomplete predictions are produced based on a number of factors including the popularity of search terms. Our systems are periodically updated to improve search, and our users’ search activity varies, so the terms that appear in autocomplete may change over time,” she said in an email. “Additionally, our systems automatically filter a small set of offensive or inappropriate content from autocomplete predictions.”


- http://searchengineland.com/google-crooked-hillary-251152

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
14. I wonder if this also includes a user's previous pattern of search terms and results links clicked.
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 08:48 AM
Jun 2016

A friend of mine who has a little Etsy shop was telling me how pleased she was that her shop's name was at the "top" of Google's predictive search ... but she was unable to duplicate her results on my computer when she wanted to demonstrate it to me.

Possibly this could be because, unlike her, I'm not constantly visiting her Etsy shop, or continually typing in her shop name to check the Google search results.

Tarc

(10,595 posts)
16. Yes, in fact, I did
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 01:36 PM
Jun 2016

The premise is absurd, the evidence looks as if it was compiled by a lazy 6th-grader, the conclusion laughable.

You have no case here, move along.

PufPuf23

(9,675 posts)
17. I replicated all the Google and Bing searches yesterday in the video and got the same widely
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 02:07 PM
Jun 2016

differing results of the auto-type feature.

One can do other searches not starting "Hillary Clinton" and the auto-type feature gives same or very close results with google and bing.

This suggests that the algorithms used are similar but that searches specifically starting Hillary Clinton have been tweaked at Google.

edit to fix grammar in title.

Tarc

(10,595 posts)
18. As more people search for a term with associated words
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 02:09 PM
Jun 2016

The more it floats to the top as the #1 suggestion.

This is not a hard concept to master.

PufPuf23

(9,675 posts)
19. I understand.
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 02:29 PM
Jun 2016

The video compases searches on google and bing and another search engine.

When one starts a search "Hillary Clinton" and the beginning of a word or phrase, the auto features have identical results of bing and the third search engine are alike and the google result differs for the examples given (which were searches for negative items about HRC).

I went one step farther in the comparison of bing and google. I chose phrases that were neutral and specifically not about anything political or recent "news".

The results for bing and google were identical or very similar.

But this is only four samples.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
3. Well, SOMETHING has to account for Sanders not winning!
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 07:51 AM
Jun 2016

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WhaTHellsgoingonhere

(5,252 posts)
10. That is awesome and supports what I said yesterday about the Democratic Party ditching labor for
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 08:10 AM
Jun 2016

Sillicon Valley, and what I've been saying about the Dems for months about ditching ethics and democratic principles for Sillicon Valley's, Libertarian, and Obama administration juggernaut Uber.

Brickbat

(19,339 posts)
12. "We assume the results and recommendations offered by that autocomplete are things people have
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 08:25 AM
Jun 2016

actually been searching for and might actually solve our problem."

"...there's an inherent trust that when you Google something, you're seeing the actual, factual answer to your query or question, based in part on what other people are actually searching for."

Good lord. There's his problem right there.

"We're not accusing anyone of any crimes." OH WHEW.

Nice gish gallop of names and connections there at the end. Very convincing.

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