Chris Hedges: The announcement by AP of Clinton as the nominee is "part of a pattern..."

[RoccoR5955]

to ridicule and marginalize the Sanders campaign, by corporate media. There is an inbuilt hostility toward Sanders because he is not the approved corporate candidate.
Much more in the interview below.

[Ferd Berfel]

1. The Corporate Elite WILL protect themselves and Their Investment

[840high]

26. Always. All ways.

[Hortensis]

90. The corporate media have been AGAINST Clinton

for many years. Blatantly. Shockingly. Long-term patterns of malice aforethought in reporting are the subjects of many studies, books, articles on the subject.

In 2008 the MSNBC talking heads gathered for the NH primary were so happy, laughing and joking as they discussed what they believed would be her campaign-killing defeat, that they looked as if they'd come to party around her death bed. Which they had. Andrea Mitchell, an employee but also a queen of the DC insiders' club, for instance can't keep neutral on her for two days running, though she seems to try now and then, even after the prospect of a President Hillary had become very real. (These guys need good relationships to power).

As for 2016, the media oligarchy's bias against her--and very definitely against any Democratic presidency--resulted in a very deliberate attempt to push Sanders ahead for all but the beginning of the election season. The Sanders phenomenon is very real, but it wouldn't have been as large as it is if the media hadn't blown it up to be in trying to take her out.

That's fine. We have her AND the anti- corporate power movement, so they lose and they lose.

[Dustlawyer]

101. Because the media spent so much more time airing Bernie

and not Hillary? How much more airtime does Hillary need, 2 to 1 over Bernie? How bout 5-1 Hillary to Bernie to even the playing field, or is that still "...the media hadn't blown it up to try and take Hillary out."

[Hortensis]

104. Because trees are really purple and pink? Bye.

[Dustlawyer]

105. Facts are pesky things, think your rose colored glasses need cleaning.

[Florencenj2point0]

106. ^^^^^^ THIS^^^^^^

thank you, but you forgot Mikka and her lemon sucking resting bitch face every time Hillary is mentioned. I have no clue what Hillary ever did to her. Maybe Mikka applied for a job in her West wing office as Hill's pres secretary?

[Hortensis]

109. Lol. Not an admirer of the token pseudoliberal here either.

She tried harder early on, and I suspect she's just another sell-out to a cushy job. Plus some people just don't have the character and convictions to stand independent of the many comforts of group-think, so she may really have shifted farther right on that show. Reminds me, she once said her dad called what she did something like "stultifyingly superficial."

Also funny, on looking the old guy up he seems to be a central demon for conspiracy theorists of various types, a nexus where self-loathers (i.e., America) on the far left and today's John Bircher-type conservatives find commonality.

[TwilightZone]

2. Sure, it's part of a pattern. The pattern is that some people can count and some people can't.

Some can do basic math and some can't.

This has been a problem this entire election cycle.

[Doctor_J]

15. sanders would not only have beaten trump by more than hillary will, but would have much better

coattails. the 1% got their dream candidate

[Dem2]

67. Proof?

And don't show me hypothetical polls 6 months prior to an election unless you have proof that they predict anything at all.

[pinebox]

73. You say you want proof then say "don't show me polls!"? lmao

[Lord Magus]

80. Because the polls are not proof.

Polls 6 months in advance of an election historically have little to no predictive value, and certainly give no indication as to which candidate would have better "coattails" for downticket candidates.

[Florencenj2point0]

108. nope

Un-vetted by the media or any of the republican candidates, once he became the nominee they would have 3/4s of the nation that he was a commie traitor for the actions he took and the words he spoke during the Reagan years.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/02/28/when-bernie-sanders-thought-castro-and-the-sandinistas-could-teach-america-a-lesson.html

MICHAEL MOYNIHAN

When Bernie Sanders Thought Castro and the Sandinistas Could Teach America a Lesson

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But despite its aversion to elections, brutal suppression of dissent, hideous mistreatment of indigenous Nicaraguans, and rejection of basic democratic norms, Sanders thought Managua’s Marxist-Leninist clique had much to teach Burlington: “Vermont could set an example to the rest of the nation similar to the type of example Nicaragua is setting for the rest of Latin America.”
The lesson Sanders saw in Nicaragua could have been plagiarized from an editorial in Barricada, the oafish Sandinista propaganda organ. “Is [the Sandinistas’] crime that they have built new health clinics, schools, and distributed land to the peasants? Is their crime that they have given equal rights to women? Or that they are moving forward to wipe out illiteracy? No, their crime in Mr. Reagan’s eyes and the eyes of the corporations and billionaires that determine American foreign policy is that they have refused to be a puppet and banana republic to American corporate interests.”

But Sanders was mistaking aspirational Sandinista propaganda for quantifiable Sandinista achievement. None of it was true, but it overlaid nicely on top of his own political views. Sanders’s almost evangelical belief in “the revolution” led him from extreme credulity to occasional fits of extreme paranoia.

For instance, in 1987 Sanders hosted Sandinista politician Nora Astorga in Burlington, a woman notorious for a Mata Hari-like guerilla operation that successfully lured Gen. Reynaldo Perez-Vega, a high-ranking figure in the Somoza dictatorship, to her apartment with promises of sex. Perez-Vega’s body was later recovered wrapped in a Sandinista flag, his throat slit by his kidnappers. When Astorga died in 1988 from cervical cancer, Sanders took the occasion to publicly praise Astorga as “a very, very beautiful woman” and a “very vital and beautiful woman,” positing that American foreign policy might have given her cancer. “I have my own feelings about what causes cancer, and the psychosomatic aspects of cancer,” he said. “One wonders if the war didn’t claim another victim; a person who couldn’t deal with the tremendous grief and suffering in her own country.” (yes men get cancer because of old bitch teachers... looking for bernie part 1 at shakesville)

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The conflict in Nicaragua exacerbated Sanders’s more extreme positions. He asked a group of University of Vermont students to consider how “we deal with Nicaragua, which is in many ways Vietnam, except it’s worse. It’s more gross.” His answer was to raise money and civilian materiel for the revolution, establish a sister city program in Nicaragua, and act as a mouthpiece for the Sandinista government.
The local Vermont journalist corps, with whom Sanders had an extraordinarily contentious relationship, occasionally questioned Sanders on Nicaragua’s increasingly dictatorial drift.

In 1985 Sanders traveled to New York City to meet with Ortega just weeks after Nicaragua imposed a “state of emergency” that resulted in mass arrests of regime critics and the shuttering of opposition newspapers and magazines. While liberal critics of Reagan’s Nicaraguan policy rounded on the Sandinistas (talk-show host Phil Donahue told Ortega that his actions looked “fascist”), Sanders refused to condemn the decision. He was “not an expert in Nicaragua” and “not a Nicaraguan,” he said during a press conference. “Am I aware enough of all the details of what is going on in Nicaragua to say ‘you have reacted too strongly?’ I don’t know…” But of course he did know, later saying that the Sandinistas’ brutal crackdown “makes sense to me.”

What “made sense” to Sanders was the Sandinistas’ war against La Prensa, a daily newspaper whose vigorous opposition to the Somoza dictatorship quickly transformed into vigorous opposition of the dictatorship that replaced it. When challenged on the Sandinistas’ incessant censorship, Sanders had a disturbing stock answer: Nicaragua was at war with counterrevolutionary forces, funded by the United States, and wartime occasionally necessitated undemocratic measures. (The Sandinista state censor Nelba Blandon offered a more succinct answer: “They [La Prensa] accused us of suppressing freedom of expression. This was a lie and we could not let them publish it.”)

To underscore his point, Sanders would usually indulge in counterfactual whataboutism: “If we look at our own history, I would ask American citizens to go back to World War II. Does anyone seriously think that President Roosevelt or the United States government [would have] allowed the American Nazi Party the right to demonstrate, or to get on radio and to say this is the way you should go about killing American citizens?” (It’s perhaps worth pointing out that La Prensa never printed tutorials on how to kill Nicaraguans. And it’s also worth pointing out that in 1991, Sanders complained of the “massive censorship of dissent, criticism, debate” by the United States government during the Gulf War.)

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[rhett o rick]

27. The problem is that some people feel more comfy siding with the Rich and then gloat when the Rich

wins. We will overcome the culture of corruption of Big Money that grips our government.

[TwilightZone]

59. That have a lot to do with being able to count to 2383?

Because that's the relevant part of this. The rest of it is nonsense.

[rhett o rick]

62. You are saying nonsense to the 2,500,000 homeless American children when you side with the

Big Corporations. I believe in karma.

[TwilightZone]

65. Just when I thought you couldn't say anything less relevant to the topic at hand...

you proved me wrong. Congrats!

[Matt_R]

99. It seems Clinton still never hit 2383 pleged delegates.#CLINTONMATH

[TwilightZone]

102. That was 400 delegates ago.

https://interactives.ap.org/2016/delegate-tracker/

[Matt_R]

103. wow so #clintonmath has her at 2783 pledged delegates?

WOW the media could have called it in April with those #clintonmath numbers.

[arcane1]

3. There is an "inbuilt hostility" toward progressive ideals in general.

Hence the constant attempts to discredit and ridicule those who cherish those ideals.

[Matt_R]

100. +1 thank you

[randome]

4. Part of the pattern of reporting results, what, a dozen times since the Primary started?

A poorly thought-out theory, Mr. Hedges.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Don't ever underestimate the long-term effects of a good night's sleep.[/center][/font][hr]

[workinclasszero]

5. OMG they called it for Obama the same way

And Senator Bernie Sanders was all in for it.

But now that its him its suddenly a massive conspiracy.

What a joke!

[Jack Bone]

6. I really noticed the "Fix" was in just prior to

NY primaries... The telegraphed Hillary position piece in CNN & WaPost..the journalistic hit piece of the NYDN.

I could tell it was "orchestrated" by the clinton camp...the rebuttal of bernie's that she's "Not Qualified" blew up after that...just like they wanted it...push..push...push until they say something that can be believed as wrong...then beat the hell out of them with it...

Donald trump's judge thing...we've seen the "play" before...

[bettyellen]

13. They made Sanders unprepared for the NyDN interview?!?!? Nope

[NWCorona]

25. No. They placed his answers out of context.

[bettyellen]

30. Read the whole interview. Not impressive.

[NWCorona]

35. I have read it. From start to finish and we will just have to disagree.

[sweetloukillbot]

66. So what was out of context? They printed the whole damn thing.

Nothing was taken "out of context". The context was right there, plain as day to anyone who could read.

[NWCorona]

68. Lol

[Jack Bone]

69. Worked on you too...LOL

My point exactly..he wasn't unprepared...the questions didn't make any sense, as to how they were asked.

Saying that the FED Chair could break up the banks...crap like that..a editorial board meeting isn't supposed to be a debate between you and the editors over what is factual...it was either that those numb nuts didn't know jack about the subject matter (which I highly doubt), or they tried to make it look like he was unaware, or unprepared...

It was a hit piece...designed to do what it did.

[Tarc]

7. Yes, it is "part of a pattern", stretching back to 1789

The announcement of the winner of an election based on who received the most votes.

[RoccoR5955]

28. Actually only since 1981

When Raygun failed to enforce the Fairness Doctrine, had it eliminated in 1987, and totally eliminate it from any of their rules in 2011.

Perhaps you did not look at the video, but it raises some good points, from one who is respected.

[CorkySt.Clair]

8. boo hoo

[Armstead]

19. I love how you totally ignore issues and engage in stupid adhominums

Nope. No media bias. Nope. Corporations all love us. Nope


It's all peaches and cream.

[RoccoR5955]

24. That's the problem today

People don't really want to engage in REAL issues. They want to believe what will keep them happy, and believe what is told to them.
They do not want to do their own research, and come up with their own opinions. They want it all handed to them on a silver platter.

[Adrahil]

32. Yes, like believing math. NT

[RoccoR5955]

34. Math is not an issue.

But you folks are continually with the ad homonym attacks, and not mentioning about issues.
Here is someone who is discussing the lack of fairness in the media, and how it influences voters, and all you say is it's math?
Shame!

[TheFarseer]

77. Yes Hillary got more delegates

Do you think this had anything to do with the media telling people that Hillary was the correct person to vote for at least two years? And telling you bernie is a crazy old coot that is selling snake oil like we shouldn't sell out American workers and get money out of politics because that would just be crazy and unamerican. Just like you remember to think outside the bun at taco bell, you remember to vote Hillary.

[CorkySt.Clair]

64. I gave them all the attention they warrant with regard to the AP ct.

[felix_numinous]

9. They want to want to censor us online and in the polls

which threaten not only a free and open democratic election, but a free and open internet.

The invasion by paid online operatives has ruined and interfered with free and open discussions in many places online--in an attempt to censor discussions about crime and corruption. This must not be allowed to continue.

[ChiciB1]

88. Don't Forget About Eric Schmidt (GOOGLE) And What Is

being said about how the algorithms are being changed to skew toward The Clintons. There's been a LOT of reporting about this, many probably aren't aware of how DEEP it goes.

Just thinking about the POWER OF GOOGLE is something that could kill REAL DEMOCRACY, the little we have left anyway!

[felix_numinous]

92. Thanks

censorship is taking new forms too.

[wyldwolf]

10. the "progressive" movement is fueled by a persecution complex

[Armstead]

18. Thank you Rush....or is it Sean?

[wyldwolf]

20. Marx? Or is it Castro?

[Armstead]

22. Just an old-fashioned liberal who now is considered a radical by the Democratic Party

[wyldwolf]

42. So you feel persecuted

[Armstead]

61. Naw, more like pissed the Democratic Party has moved away from me and millions of other

Persecuted means I'm worrying that Hillary might knock on my door and take me away with a paper bag over my head, or Debbie Wasserman Schultz is tapping my phone calls.

I'm not.

But go ahead and use your cute dismissive language rather than say anything of substance.

[ChiciB1]

95. They're Hoping We'll DIE Or At Least Go Away You Know...

I live in Florida the state of STAND YOUR GROUND! We SHALL overcome... or ACTUALLY DIE trying! LOL!

As we wade deeper into OLIGARCHY! We had better get this out of our system now because we only have a few days left here at DU!

This is the most I've posted in a very long time and I rally NEED to get some work done around my house!

Keep the fire burning, too much is at stake! I thought I might have been 6 ft. under before we saw this overwhelming transition take place. Unfortunately unless I get hit by a car or a serious disease I think I'll be around for quite some time. If I say I'm amazed at how easy it's become to fool so many I would sound naive, but I have to admit that it's happened much quicker than I thought.

I try not to let it depress me but I have kids who have kids and it's breaking my heart!

[rhett o rick]

36. What a terrible thing to say. The progressive movement is fighting for the 2.5 million homeless

American children that the Corporate Democrats seem to ignore. The Progressive Movement is fighting to keep Chevron from poisoning our drinking water for corporate profits. We are fighting to protect SS and Medicare from the Corporate vultures. And the Corporate Democrats are fighting us and fighting for more profits for revered Big Corporations.

[wyldwolf]

40. And you're fueled by a persecution complex

[rhett o rick]

44. Wow. I think that kind of sums up who you really are.

[wyldwolf]

51. That's all you can say?

[ChiciB1]

89. Isn't THAT ENOUGH??? n/t

[wyldwolf]

96. If cop outs are your thing, then yes.

[NurseJackie]

11. Ugh ... more "Russia Today" crap. :-P "Putin-Controlled Media You Can Trust"

Russia Today TV Network

RT, originally Russia Today, is a Russian government-funded television network that runs cable and satellite television channels directed to audiences outside of Russia as well as providing Internet content in various languages, including Russian.

RT International, based in Moscow, Russia, presents around-the-clock news bulletins, documentaries, talk shows, debates, sports news, and cultural programmes about Russia.[3] RT operates as a multilingual service with conventional channels in three languages: the original English language channel was launched in 2005, the Arabic language channel in 2007, and the Spanish language channel in 2009. RT America (since 2010),[5] and RT UK (since 2014) offer some locally based content for those countries.

RT has been called a propaganda outlet for the Russian government[10][11][12] and its foreign policy[10][12][13][14] by news reporters,[15] including former RT reporters.[16][17][18] RT has also been accused of spreading disinformation.[19][20][21][22] The United Kingdom media regulator, Ofcom, has repeatedly found RT to have breached rules on impartiality, and of broadcasting "materially misleading" content.[23][24][25] RT states that it offers a Russian perspective on global events.[3]

[Octafish]

16. Chris Hedges is TOPS in every way.

Maybe you should learn more about him.

[Duval]

38. LOL! I've never heard any Russian propaganda or US.

I watch Thom Hartmann and Ed Schultz on RT. So, what exactly are you saying here? Can you not see that progressive voices have been silenced on our MSM? I, along with millions, am glad they found a voice on RT.

[NurseJackie]

53. There's a reason that they are on Putin's TV network

... They're spreading the message that Putin wants you to believe. Pre approved ready for consumption. I'm not falling for it!

[bvar22]

50. I find far more propaganda on:

ABC
CBS
NBC
MSNBC
CNN
FOX


I have had to stop watching all of them.
Now, I watch FSTV (Free Speech TV), RT, and sometimes LINK.
Thom Hartmann, Ed Schultz, Amy Goodman, and others don't read from the Corporate Scripts, and have never remotely promoted anything Pro-Putin.

The Daily Show with Jon Stewart was a premier site for exposing political hypocrisy and insightful political commentary, but has cratered since Stewart left.

[NurseJackie]

52. When I want Putin's perspective on things…

... I'll be sure to tune in !

[bvar22]

55. When I want the Wall Street 1% Corporate view,

I'll ask you!



and I'll raise you one:

[Lord Magus]

81. Just because you don't recognize it as propaganda doesn't mean it isn't.

And not everything Putin wants put out in his propaganda mentions him or Russia by name.

[bvar22]

85. I will say the same about:

ABC
CBS
NBC
MSNBC
CNN
FOX
NPR
BBC
"Just because you don't recognize it as propaganda doesn't mean it isn't."
I only need to mention the drumbeat for the Invasion of Iraq to discredit ALL
of the above as legitimate sources for "news".

I will also add the drum beating for the destruction of Libya.
Where in ANY of the US Media could you find important facts like:

” For all his dictatorial megalomania, Gaddafi is a committed pan-African - a fierce defender of African unity. Libya was not in debt to international bankers. It did not borrow cash from the International Monetary Fund for any "structural adjustment". It used oil money for social services - including the Great Man Made River project, and investment/aid to sub-Saharan countries. Its independent central bank was not manipulated by the Western financial system. All in all a very bad example for the developing world.”

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/MD27Ak01.html

("Pan Africa Movement" means Africa for Africans, NOT the Western Banks and the IMF)



The only way to evaluate the problem is to watch and read All Sides, and then cross reference to several trusted Independent sites on the Net.
I neglected to include Al Jazeera and The Asia Times among my preferred news sites).

Think for Yourself!
Question Authority!
(Thanks, Tim Leary)

[ChiciB1]

91. Not Sure If You've EVER Watched RT... BUT I've Been Watching For

quite some time. I have yet to hear a PEEP about any Russian slant nor have I actually SEEN any Russian hosts! I suppose you DO SUPPORT Saudi Arabia taking over the WATER in Arizona because they have the ability to dig their wells DEEPER than the farmers there. What THIS means is that because they have MORE $$$$$$ they have actually gotten "hogging rights" and the ability to outspend regular people! They've also begun doing this in CA which has been drought stricken for a very long time.

Guess where I got THIS NEWS???? RT! The of course you might want to take a peek at FSTV. Both of these news outlets report REAL news all the time, not just INFOTAINMENT.

Yeah, Thoma Hartmann (once in high regard here) has a nightly program on RT as does Ed Schultz (also once highly regarded here) and I'm POSITIVE I've NEVER heard any Russian Propaganda!

Try it you might like it AND you may find they report on issues of real consequence!

[Lil Missy]

12. They should have announced it long before they did.

If it takes marginalizing Sanders to get rid of him then it's time well spent.

And you with the persecution complexes now would have been screaming bloody murder if the situations were reversed and it was Hillary refusing to accept reality all this time and with no path to victory.


And if Hillary planned a path whereby she would steal superdelegates that have already voted for Bernie??? OHMYGAWDTHEREWOULDBERIOTSINTHESTREETS!!!!!!!!!!!

[bvar22]

87. How ironic.

In your first sentence you advocate for the active marginalization of Sanders supporters.

In your 2nd sentence, you accuse Sanders supporters of having a "Persecution Complex".

Irony or Hypocrisy Impaired?
Can you spot the disconnect?
...Yes?

[George Eliot]

14. AP response from their blog

https://blog.ap.org/announcements/ap-statement-on-hillary-clinton

Senior Vice President and Executive Editor Kathleen Carroll:

AP concluded that Hillary Clinton had enough delegates to clinch the nomination after a painstaking but very straightforward exercise.

We counted.

By Monday evening, 571 superdelegates had told us unequivocally that they intend to vote for Clinton at the convention. Adding that number to the delegates awarded to Clinton in primary and caucus voting to date gave her the number needed to be the presumptive nominee.

That is news, and reporting the news is what we do.

Nothing in that discourages or prevents voters in six states from exercising their right to go to the polls today and cast their ballots.

A little snarky. i think they made news rather than patiently waiting to report the news. Glenn Greenwald lays out my thoughts perfectly at https://theintercept.com/2016/06/07/perfect-end-to-democratic-primary-anonymous-super-delegates-declare-winner-through-media/

And in fairness, another really good overview of the campaign she ran and the early work that made her successful by Heidi M Przybyla, USA TODAYhttp://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/06/06/hillary-clinton-democratic-nomination/85485764/ This, too, is an interesting read

[Adrahil]

93. I think the snark was perfectly justified.

When actually reporting simple facts is now considered rigging the election, we are in trouble.

[George Eliot]

98. Well, even if they want to change mind, they can't now can they?

The AP sort of locked them in. That was convenient. Once the vote is held, it becomes fact. Until then, it was tentative. That's my take.

Of course, they can still change their minds . . . that could prove embarrassing for the AP. But I agree, it is not likely to happen.

[Armstead]

17. Chris Hedges is often too depressing.....But unfortunately he often is telling the truth

[bvar22]

54. Thats the problem.

The TRUTH about our political system and "news" system in America IS depressing.
Those of us old enough can remember REAL Investigative Journalism and unbiased reporting of the news.
Now, all we get is infotainment, commercials, and corporate propaganda.

[Ace Rothstein]

21. A pattern of using math and statistics to report the news.

[RoccoR5955]

29. There's an old adage from Statistics 101.

"There are lies, real lies, and there are statistics."

[TwilightZone]

60. There's a calculation from Math 101.

2383 = 2383.

[BobbyDrake]

23. Something tells me that only the world's BIGGEST violin is going to get this job done....

Not the smallest.

[840high]

31. Something tells me you won't

get a lot of us in your corner in Nov. - keep playing your violin.

[rhett o rick]

43. Hubris and arrogance will be their downfall. It's just like the schoolyard. Some hide behind

the biggest bully (Big Corporations in this case) and stick out their tongues pretending to be tough. They are nothing without their bully.

[jamese777]

45. I could care less

who anyone else votes for. You have every right to vote for Donald Trump or a third party candidate if you want to.
The Democratic Party nominee is going to get 60-65 million votes, the only question is whether the exact number will be more or less than the Republican nominee.

[BobbyDrake]

46. You mistakenly assume that I want you, or people like you, in my corner. Sorry, I've got standards.

You want to put on theatrical displays of victimhood and basically announce that nothing will win your vote? Fine, that's your call.

Such antics may play for applause from the left, but they don't impress me. For every Bernie-or-Buster, there are two centrist independents whose votes we'll pick up instead.

Enjoy life in the wilderness!

[pinebox]

74. We have standards too. It's called not selling out.

[BobbyDrake]

75. A.k.a. Not winning. Enjoy the purity-flavored losses.

You seemed destined for a lot of them.

[pinebox]

76. Enjoy your corporate corrupted candidate

You seem to be in love with her and no matter what, Hillary can never do wrong.

FBI investigations, shady weapons deals, war votes, Haiti, on and on it goes. More controversy than when the Edsel came out.

Have fun with that in November and a candidate who the majority of America loathes and hates.

[RoccoR5955]

39. I see. Can't attack the issue, attack the person

without any reasoning for it. That's really a Democratic value.
Shame!

[RoccoR5955]

47. Do you have proof of these "conspiracies theories" that you mention

or did you just pull that out of thin air.
I have seen him, and read his books, and I see no theories. They are actual conspiracies that go unnoticed by the mainstream media.
The whole thing about torture at Abu Gharib. That's why he was part of Occupy, the protest of the Afghan and Iraq wars, he was even at the People's Climate march.
Yeah, only a REAL conspiracy theorist would protest the Iraq war, or stand up for Climate Change.


I often wonder these days if this is REALLY Democratic Underground.

[jamese777]

37. If the primaries had been close

I might buy that the mainstream media played a role but Clinton beat Sanders by 13 points (56% to 43%) nationwide and she won 33 primaries and caucuses to his 23, with one more to go. She's up by more than 3 million votes.
A majority of Democrats just didn't want someone who would be nearly 80 years old at the end of his first term to be the candidate.

[Gomez163]

56. Who cares what that kook thinks?

[RoccoR5955]

57. That's right, can't speak to the points, attack the person

Very mature of you.
SHAME!

[Gomez163]

58. He also didn't like Obama. When is the world gonna end? It's only been 8 years.

[cheapdate]

63. Meh. Don't care. My voting decisions aren't based on AP announcements.

[AzDar]

70. K & R

[Scuba]

71. The right-wing of the Democratic Party hates this guy, probably because he keeps ...

... bringing up morality.

[Lord Magus]

82. Math is not moral or immoral, it just is.

The threshold to win the nomination this year is 2383 delegates. When Hillary reached that number she was reported as the winner.

[Scuba]

83. That doesn't explain why the right wing of the Democratic Party hates Chris Hedges.

[JoePhilly]

72. A few weeks ago, when the AP was putting out pro-Bernie articles ...

... it was so so very awesome.

Then, it points out the reality of the math.

And in doing so, it becomes part of the conspiracy.

[tex-wyo-dem]

78. Kick!

[newfie11]

79. The media is rigged!

We don't get real information anymore. Only what the 8 owners want us to know.
What happened investigative reporting😡

[Adrahil]

94. So what was "unreal" about this information? The fact that you didn't like it? NT

[Lord Magus]

84. The AP announcement wasn't about marginalizing Bernie, it was about reporting the facts.

When Hillary reached 2383 delegates, they reported it. That's what journalists do, they report what's happened.

[ucrdem]

86. Plagiarhater needs to go back under his rock. He has no credibility. Link:

New Republic Accuses Pulitzer Winner Chris Hedges of Plagiarism

J.K. Trotter

In long investigation published today on The New Republic’s website, left-wing journalist Christopher Ketcham formally accused another lefty writer, former Times editor and Nation Institute fellow Christopher Hedges, of lifting passages from other writers (including Ernest Hemingway) for columns at Truthdig.com, several of his own books, and an essay for Harper’s that was never published.


http://gawker.com/new-republic-accuses-pulitzer-winner-chris-hedges-of-pl-1590102144

[zalinda]

97. This may backfire on the dem party big time.

I just saw the Gary Johnson interview that Yahoo is now pushing. I think he's going to take a lot of dem votes from Clinton, after this dem sabotage of Bernie. Johnson will also take a lot of votes from the repub votes for Trump. He sounds like a refreshing voice after all this hatred of Hillary and Trump.

I don't like his economic views, but he seems more harmless than either of the two hated candidates, so I can imagine he will attract voters who want to vote but not for Hillary or Trump. This will definitely be an interesting election season.

Z

[Florencenj2point0]

107. I listened to about 30 seconds of Hedges and had to turn him off

I already missed the first 19 minutes of CBS Sunday Morning. What a wonderful sane show. One of the best shows on TV. I urge everyone to watch this morning.

As for this CT, I wish DU had the same policy as dkos and that CT were bannable offenses.

Hillary asked the Super Delegates to hold off endorsing her and she was not happy with the AP declaring her the victor. So this is pretty much bullshit. Am I surprised Hedges, who I met BTW, he is a jerk in person too. He helped some prisoners write a play based on their lives...
Here is the article about it. http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/the_plays_the_thing_20131215

Here is the announcement of the production I saw where I met him. I was interested in getting involved in prison mission. I asked him about it and he walked away. Jerk. https://ipcnj.org/2015/04/29/event-may-22-caged-on-trenton-campus-of-mercer-county-community-college/