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CA PRIMARY UPDATE: Bernie Sanders Flips 3 Counties Today!... (Original Post) AzDar Jun 2016 OP
Wow... HerbChestnut Jun 2016 #1
BREAKING NEWS: SCantiGOP Jun 2016 #24
SARCASM enid602 Jun 2016 #36
kick midnight Jun 2016 #2
Posted elsewhere on DU: SCantiGOP Jun 2016 #33
ha ha. More votes equals even more winning for Hillary! Mr Maru Jun 2016 #46
Careful not to contradict the Sanders logic KingFlorez Jun 2016 #3
Actually, over 1 MILLION have been 'invalidated'... More than 2 Million still uncounted. AzDar Jun 2016 #6
That's a lie oberliner Jun 2016 #8
All ballots are counted in California, including provisional ballots, no matter what the still_one Jun 2016 #28
Not every vote is valid KingFlorez Jun 2016 #9
That is absolutely correct. If they are not registered to vote, have already voted still_one Jun 2016 #30
The word "invalidated" appears nowhere in that link ContinentalOp Jun 2016 #14
The claim that 1 million votes have been invalidated has been debunked. onenote Jun 2016 #16
Thank you. I am so tired of these "social media" claims that are assumed to be fact still_one Jun 2016 #31
Once the story gets passed around, it becomes the truth to many. Ace Rothstein Jun 2016 #44
Thank you for the data. However, data doesn't matter to the true believer. (nt) ehrnst Jun 2016 #45
Got that right! nt Mr Maru Jun 2016 #47
Not seeing where they were invalidated, according to the link. ehrnst Jun 2016 #40
That's nice Retrograde Jun 2016 #4
Clinton leads in 50 out of 53 Districts. onenote Jun 2016 #18
Seems the difference is up to 475,000 votes now. Dem2 Jun 2016 #5
Santa Claus Just Endorsed Bernie! Night Watchman Jun 2016 #12
Yes every vote matters aligzanduh Jun 2016 #15
Yes, rules suck and not knowing the rules sucks even worse justiceischeap Jun 2016 #19
Thank you. I am so sick of hearing about how simple rules and deadlines ehrnst Jun 2016 #41
Signed up just to make this lame excuse? Dem2 Jun 2016 #21
Good to be king, eh? RobertEarl Jun 2016 #22
You mean the employees at the county and state? Who make sure that the rules that have been in place ehrnst Jun 2016 #42
Welcome to DU. panader0 Jun 2016 #27
You are new to the DU so who is this "we" that would have won and that was handicapped and how cstanleytech Jun 2016 #35
Yeah. That's it. Totally. And ACORN is out there somewhere working for Hillary now... (nt) ehrnst Jun 2016 #43
Yet He's Fallen Behind By More Votes Each of Last 2 Days Stallion Jun 2016 #7
12.4 % is Still..... Grassy Knoll Jun 2016 #10
Today was the cutoff date for mail in votes to arrive. grossproffit Jun 2016 #11
yup, and May 23rd was the last day to register to vote in the June 7th primary, still_one Jun 2016 #32
Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2016 #13
Its still 56-43. DCBob Jun 2016 #17
Hmm...56-43 = 13 MineralMan Jun 2016 #25
at this point none of this matters but if you want to look at the numbers beachbum bob Jun 2016 #20
In Election Math, 2+2 = 11 or 2+2 = 10. MineralMan Jun 2016 #23
But Sanders still loses by 500,000 votes. annavictorious Jun 2016 #26
I'm beginning to feel a bit of pity here Tarc Jun 2016 #29
30,000 people at some rally. That's A LOT. Sanders is down by 470,000 votes. That's NOTHING! alcibiades_mystery Jun 2016 #37
Clinton lost SLO and SB by 8 in 2008 alcibiades_mystery Jun 2016 #34
Count every vote indeed, but her overall margin in the state actually increased. Zynx Jun 2016 #38
They have every intention of counting every vote. Clinton's lead increases. It was known Calif takes seabeyond Jun 2016 #39
"Inconceivable !" GreatGazoo Jun 2016 #48

enid602

(8,613 posts)
36. SARCASM
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 04:53 PM
Jun 2016

Actually Barbara Boxer, Elizabeth Warren, Barney Frank and Dolores Huerta (all wearing 'I'm With Her' Tee shirts) were found falsifying ballots. Chelsea was supposed to be the lookout in the hallway, but she had to cancel at the last minute, so she could meet with Ivanlka Trump for a toenail painting party.

SCantiGOP

(13,869 posts)
33. Posted elsewhere on DU:
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 04:38 PM
Jun 2016

Clinton's lead has grown about 36,000 votes as a result of this continued count.

KingFlorez

(12,689 posts)
3. Careful not to contradict the Sanders logic
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 12:16 AM
Jun 2016

You all are saying that votes are not being counted and now you are posting that counties are flipping. This post kills the argument that Sanders votes are being dumped.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
8. That's a lie
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 12:25 AM
Jun 2016

There is nothing at that link about any ballots being "invalidated", let alone a million.

still_one

(92,136 posts)
28. All ballots are counted in California, including provisional ballots, no matter what the
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 04:06 PM
Jun 2016

margin. If it is a mail in ballot, as long as it is post marked on or before election day, and arrives at the county office within three days after the election it is counted.

All ballots are counted, including provisional ballots after election officials have confirmed that the voter is registered to vote in that county, and that they did not already vote in that election.

You may vote a provisional ballot at any polling place in the county in which you are registered to vote, however, only the elections contests you are eligible to vote for will be counted.

The status of a provisional ballot can be checked here:

http://www.sos.ca.gov/elections/ballot-status


KingFlorez

(12,689 posts)
9. Not every vote is valid
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 12:26 AM
Jun 2016

And if you are naive enough to believe that every invalidated vote was for Sanders, you need to reevaluate your logic. It's pretty improbable that every invalidated ballot even relates to the presidential race, since there were hundreds of other offices on the ballot all across the state.

still_one

(92,136 posts)
30. That is absolutely correct. If they are not registered to vote, have already voted
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 04:10 PM
Jun 2016

and other reasons.

The claim that "one million ballots were invalidated", I need to see an actual report from the SOS, and I sure haven't seen that, nor have I seen any reputable media source state that. Social media on the other hand has been spewing all kind of misrepresentations and lies

ContinentalOp

(5,356 posts)
14. The word "invalidated" appears nowhere in that link
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 02:04 AM
Jun 2016

Where's your evidence for this outlandish claim that a million votes were invalidated?

still_one

(92,136 posts)
31. Thank you. I am so tired of these "social media" claims that are assumed to be fact
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 04:14 PM
Jun 2016

when they are not.

California is one of the most open an accessible and flexible states for voting in the nation

Ace Rothstein

(3,160 posts)
44. Once the story gets passed around, it becomes the truth to many.
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 09:22 PM
Jun 2016

We'll be hearing about these 1 million invalidated votes for the next decade now.

 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
40. Not seeing where they were invalidated, according to the link.
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 09:14 PM
Jun 2016

And the uncounted votes are mail-in. Where's the fraud?

Retrograde

(10,133 posts)
4. That's nice
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 12:17 AM
Jun 2016

Delegates are awarded by Congressional district, and are proportional to the overall vote in that district.

Results are reported by county because that's who run the elections, but Congressional districts can cross counties.

Dem2

(8,168 posts)
5. Seems the difference is up to 475,000 votes now.
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 12:20 AM
Jun 2016

What's the point of this post? Are a couple of delegates meaningful now?

aligzanduh

(1 post)
15. Yes every vote matters
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 04:36 AM
Jun 2016

The larger the movement the larger the movement. We would have won if we were not handicapped in every possible way.

justiceischeap

(14,040 posts)
19. Yes, rules suck and not knowing the rules sucks even worse
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 07:15 AM
Jun 2016

Last edited Sat Jun 11, 2016, 09:19 PM - Edit history (1)

It's been made clear the majority of the problems the Sanders campaign encountered was because they weren't aware of Democratic Primary state rules.

 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
41. Thank you. I am so sick of hearing about how simple rules and deadlines
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 09:16 PM
Jun 2016

are now considered 'handicaps."

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
22. Good to be king, eh?
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 02:57 PM
Jun 2016

The Powers That Be - PTB- will not easily relinquish power. They understand there is much power in the vote, so they do what they can to have the votes go their way.

 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
42. You mean the employees at the county and state? Who make sure that the rules that have been in place
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 09:18 PM
Jun 2016

for years are being followed, and some people can't be bothered to go to a website to find out how to vote in a primary?

That sounds like a tea partier who thought ACORN gave Obama the election.

panader0

(25,816 posts)
27. Welcome to DU.
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 03:57 PM
Jun 2016

You joined at a very contentious time here. And come the 16th, well, we'll wait and see....

cstanleytech

(26,281 posts)
35. You are new to the DU so who is this "we" that would have won and that was handicapped and how
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 04:45 PM
Jun 2016

were "you" handicapped?

still_one

(92,136 posts)
32. yup, and May 23rd was the last day to register to vote in the June 7th primary,
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 04:22 PM
Jun 2016

and while some here were jumping up and down about lawsuits being filed because they considered the classification of NPP(No Party Preference), too confusing; all they had to do was re-register to vote as a Democrat, and they would have received a Democratic ballot. They could have done that registration multiple ways, including online at the library.

All this information was clearly stated in the voter pamphlet that every registered voter receives, and at the California SOS website



Response to AzDar (Original post)

MineralMan

(146,286 posts)
25. Hmm...56-43 = 13
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 03:41 PM
Jun 2016

A double digit lead, with a bit to spare, it seems.

Double digits in California. Double digits nationwide in November.

Hillary 2016!

 

beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)
20. at this point none of this matters but if you want to look at the numbers
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 07:20 AM
Jun 2016

of the 2.2 million unprocessed ballots to count...over 1.6 million are mail in and these will favor hillary at least 60-40....so her lead will keep expanding.

http://elections.cdn.sos.ca.gov/statewide-elections/2016-primary/unprocessed-ballots-report.pdf

a resounding victory by hillary over sanders who spent nearly a month and millions of dollars to lose this by a huge margin....

MineralMan

(146,286 posts)
23. In Election Math, 2+2 = 11 or 2+2 = 10.
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 03:22 PM
Jun 2016

It's all depends on what the Base is, you see. The Democratic Base is either 3 or 4, depending on who you ask. But, the number always add up to something, I've learned.

 

annavictorious

(934 posts)
26. But Sanders still loses by 500,000 votes.
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 03:54 PM
Jun 2016

It's great that he got <1200 provisional ballot votes added to his tally. It takes the sting out of the +12% loss.

Tarc

(10,476 posts)
29. I'm beginning to feel a bit of pity here
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 04:07 PM
Jun 2016

Glenn: 1,003 - 910
San Luis Obispo: 21,333 - 20,379
Santa Barbara: 27,427 - 27,319

Congrats on a whopping +1,155.

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
37. 30,000 people at some rally. That's A LOT. Sanders is down by 470,000 votes. That's NOTHING!
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 06:39 PM
Jun 2016

It's sad to watch people feed their own delusions.

Zynx

(21,328 posts)
38. Count every vote indeed, but her overall margin in the state actually increased.
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 07:47 PM
Jun 2016

Those were always expected to be her weakest counties south of SF and it was a surprise when she was ahead in them in the first place.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
39. They have every intention of counting every vote. Clinton's lead increases. It was known Calif takes
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 08:08 PM
Jun 2016

time.

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