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Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 12:39 PM Jun 2016

Clinton/Obama 2016



It would be worth it just to listen to Republican heads exploding like a fire in a popcorn warehouse.

Michelle Obama: strong, smart as hell, knows exactly where the levers of power connect in DC after eight years as first spouse, has Barack Obama as a literal kitchen cabinet and elegantly attractive as well.

What's not to love?
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Clinton/Obama 2016 (Original Post) Fumesucker Jun 2016 OP
Why would he want to be VP after being president? democrattotheend Jun 2016 #1
Not Barack - Michelle. The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2016 #3
Ah, gotcha democrattotheend Jun 2016 #29
Why not Barack? anamnua Jun 2016 #39
Read the post obamanut2012 Jun 2016 #4
the OP is about Michelle virtualobserver Jun 2016 #5
She wouldn't want it, but technically there is no law preventing her from doing that, just as she still_one Jun 2016 #6
No, Secretary Clinton probably could not choose Barack Obama or Bill Clinton as her running mate SFnomad Jun 2016 #19
Thanks for the info. I should have checked before posting still_one Jun 2016 #25
Why not? She put her career aside for eight years.... virtualobserver Jun 2016 #2
Not sure you are serious, but that raises the dynasty thing up to level 11 One Black Sheep Jun 2016 #7
I've said it before, even before the primaries... Fumesucker Jun 2016 #9
I'm now pretty sure you are having a little fun One Black Sheep Jun 2016 #20
I meant all the other stuff too, I like Barack pretty well but Michelle is off the charts with me Fumesucker Jun 2016 #26
lol One Black Sheep Jun 2016 #28
Have you seen the music I post? Fumesucker Jun 2016 #30
Alright, I believe you then One Black Sheep Jun 2016 #36
2 women riding on the coattails of their husbands sucess Travis_0004 Jun 2016 #8
Being a political spouse to the level of Michelle Obama or Hillary Clinton is a brutal job Fumesucker Jun 2016 #10
And sniper fire too. Travis_0004 Jun 2016 #11
That was the presumptive nominee Fumesucker Jun 2016 #18
Sickening. One is an ex senator and Secretary of State. sufrommich Jun 2016 #13
You could not be more dismissive and insulting. Not to mention so very marrow minded. seabeyond Jun 2016 #16
Oops, sorry I thought you were replying to me... Fumesucker Jun 2016 #21
Lol. And what an insightful post, yours was. !!!! You are right. Nt seabeyond Jun 2016 #22
goddess forfend that they could possibly have their own merits and skills and strengths, eh? niyad Jun 2016 #17
I'm not advocating this as a pick, *BUT* frazzled Jun 2016 #23
Most people don't know this about Michelle. They just assume crap. AgadorSparticus Jun 2016 #40
While I don't think it would be a good ticket Station to Station Jun 2016 #32
Michelle Obama is counting the days until she's free from the White House. sufrommich Jun 2016 #12
Well, they are two different roles, for sure. But, I really? seabeyond Jun 2016 #15
If you read the thread I mentioned it being a brutal job Fumesucker Jun 2016 #33
I think it would be strong, and Obama can show Bill how to do it. I have not gotten my fill seabeyond Jun 2016 #14
No (nt) bigwillq Jun 2016 #24
She is brilliant. If Clinton chose her, I would not complain. Agnosticsherbet Jun 2016 #27
How can someone with so many posts waste time floating such a implausible, naive idea? dinkytron Jun 2016 #31
You don't think Michelle Obama is qualified to be President? Fumesucker Jun 2016 #34
Of course she is totally qualified. But it will not happen. BTW, I dig your posts FS. dinkytron Jun 2016 #35
Thanks, it's really easy here to fall into being a "bot" that just opposes the other side Fumesucker Jun 2016 #37
Brilliant idea. grossproffit Jun 2016 #38
I approve this idea Spacedog1973 Jun 2016 #41

democrattotheend

(11,605 posts)
1. Why would he want to be VP after being president?
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 12:41 PM
Jun 2016

Plus, could he even be? Would he be eligible to succeed her if something happened to her?

I'd rather see her put him on the Supreme Court.

still_one

(92,061 posts)
6. She wouldn't want it, but technically there is no law preventing her from doing that, just as she
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 12:52 PM
Jun 2016

could choose Barrack Obama and Bill Clinton as her running mate. That won't happen either

 

SFnomad

(3,473 posts)
19. No, Secretary Clinton probably could not choose Barack Obama or Bill Clinton as her running mate
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 01:24 PM
Jun 2016

Amendment XII states:

But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States.


Amentdment XXII states:
No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once.


Taken together ... Neither President Obama or President Clinton are eligible to be President after their second term ... which would mean they are not eligible to be Vice-President. Now, you could try to get around it because of the bolded words. If they are VP, they're not actually elected President, which could mean this doesn't apply. That would be a technical reading ... but it would certainly go against the spirit of what those Amendments were trying to accomplish. That also would bring up the question of a former two term President who later becomes Speaker of the House ... would that former President be elevated to President again, if the both the President and VP died at the same time?

At a minimum, it would be held up in court ... and I'm sure the court wouldn't want to get involved in this kind of dispute either, being that they'd want to stay out of Executive Office internal affairs.
 

virtualobserver

(8,760 posts)
2. Why not? She put her career aside for eight years....
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 12:43 PM
Jun 2016

She knows more about the Presidency than anyone on either side of the aisle who hasn't lived in the White House.

One Black Sheep

(458 posts)
7. Not sure you are serious, but that raises the dynasty thing up to level 11
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 12:53 PM
Jun 2016

that would never work, landslide loss.

Hillary and the Clinton's possibly making a return to the White House already will make many Americans feel uncomfortable at the prospect.

Look at how the Bush family did, that dynasty stuff is going to make people nauseous just thinking about and being reminded of Bush, Jr. as our horrible dynasty president in the recent past.

One Black Sheep

(458 posts)
20. I'm now pretty sure you are having a little fun
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 01:25 PM
Jun 2016

with this "suggestion", after reading your post #18, you are a sly devil.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
26. I meant all the other stuff too, I like Barack pretty well but Michelle is off the charts with me
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 01:40 PM
Jun 2016

Do you disagree with casting Michelle as Ripley?

Honestly I think Michelle would tolerate less nonsense than Barack has. My mother was a very strong willed woman with a formidable no-nonsense manner and I guess my love for her made me appreciate strong women, those tend to be my favorite characters..

For instance..

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027337835#post38

One Black Sheep

(458 posts)
28. lol
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 01:46 PM
Jun 2016

I know you, have read your posts before. You can't fool me, sly one...

Michelle Obama as Ripley, lol. Yea, ok. Nice mental image.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
30. Have you seen the music I post?
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 02:01 PM
Jun 2016
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10342268

I'm flattered that you think I'm sly and I'll admit to waxing a touch sarcastic, ironic or sardonic at times but given the situation as it exists I believe Michelle Obama could make a credible addition to the Democratic ticket. Maybe not the best possible choice but not an unthinkably bad one either, all this is a matter of perspective and opinion of course.

One Black Sheep

(458 posts)
36. Alright, I believe you then
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 02:20 PM
Jun 2016

you seem sincere. I guess... Now, a nice clip of Audrey Hepburn getting a haircut...she was way before my time, but I am a big fan!




 

Travis_0004

(5,417 posts)
8. 2 women riding on the coattails of their husbands sucess
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 01:03 PM
Jun 2016

If that is the ticket, Im writting in Bearnie.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
10. Being a political spouse to the level of Michelle Obama or Hillary Clinton is a brutal job
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 01:09 PM
Jun 2016

Scheduled to the minute, constant travel, all kinds of crap to deal with, the press and so on.

She was an immense benefit to her husband, I doubt he would have been President without her standing by his side.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
18. That was the presumptive nominee
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 01:22 PM
Jun 2016

I've already mentioned The War Journals of Hillary Clinton on DU, there's no need to rehash all of that Sgt Rock type stuff.

Look, it's all about image, you could cast Michelle Obama as Ellen Ripley in an Alien reboot and with a little makeup and CGI she wouldn't be out of place.



sufrommich

(22,871 posts)
13. Sickening. One is an ex senator and Secretary of State.
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 01:16 PM
Jun 2016

Why minimize that by making such a stupid claim? How do you feel about Robert and Ted Kennedy?

niyad

(113,085 posts)
17. goddess forfend that they could possibly have their own merits and skills and strengths, eh?
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 01:20 PM
Jun 2016

nah, they can only win off their husbands' success.

wow, nice misogynistic hit there.

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
23. I'm not advocating this as a pick, *BUT*
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 01:35 PM
Jun 2016

Michelle Obama is an extremely successful person in her own right: Princeton graduate and Harvard Law graduate, member of a prestigious Chicago law firm (note: it was Michelle who HIRED Obama), then public sector positions as Assistant to the Mayor and Assistant Commissioner of Planning and Development, Executive Director for the Chicago office of Public Allies (a non-profit organization encouraging young people to work on social issues in nonprofit groups and government agencies), Associate Dean of Student Services at the University of Chicago, and finally Vice President for Community and External Affairs at the University of Chicago Hospitals. And then, of course, heading up a number of successful initiatives as First Lady.

One might say that both Hillary Clinton and Michelle Obama MADE their husbands' successes in large part. No coattails for these remarkable women.

I don't think this pick is one that is feasible or probable, but it makes me mad as hell that people on this board who claim to be "progressive" would ever make such a sexist remark.

32. While I don't think it would be a good ticket
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 02:04 PM
Jun 2016

This is sexist nonsense. While it's true that Michelle Obama doesn't have independent political experience (although she is certainly an intelligent, independently successful person in her own right), Hillary Clinton spent the last 16 years accruing that.

Also, take remedial English classes.

sufrommich

(22,871 posts)
12. Michelle Obama is counting the days until she's free from the White House.
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 01:14 PM
Jun 2016

President Obama has made that very clear.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
14. I think it would be strong, and Obama can show Bill how to do it. I have not gotten my fill
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 01:17 PM
Jun 2016

of the first family.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
34. You don't think Michelle Obama is qualified to be President?
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 02:08 PM
Jun 2016

Anyhow I got you to respond for which I thank you.

dinkytron

(568 posts)
35. Of course she is totally qualified. But it will not happen. BTW, I dig your posts FS.
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 02:11 PM
Jun 2016

You are an asset to this site. And I do love love Michelle. But its just so left field.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
37. Thanks, it's really easy here to fall into being a "bot" that just opposes the other side
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 02:54 PM
Jun 2016

There is so much that we do which is just nuts if you look at it objectively but that's hard to do, comedians are probably the best at it.

Maybe we need a reboot.

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