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hopemountain

(3,919 posts)
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 07:40 PM Jun 2016

John Lauritis: Sanderistas, Unite! The Truth Is Coming (Part II)



https://johnlaurits.com/2016/06/10/sanderistas-unite-the-truth-is-coming-part-ii/

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The #LameStreamMedia wants you to believe that you are isolated, that you are alone, that there is nothing left to fight for — do not believe a word of it!

You are not alone, you are not isolated,
& there is everything left to fight for!

Now, let’s get into some numbers!
We Must Transform Our Strategy

When I first wrote to you all, it was about the delegate math and how it showed that we would be heading into a contested convention — I wrote it because no one else was writing it & because . Despite the tricks, the media’s manipulation, & everything that they could throw at us, that is still true — but barely! I was worried for a moment but, just as I said in that first article, Hillary Clinton does not have the 2,383 delegates needed to clinch the nomination & we are going to Philadelphia on July 25th.

But things are going to be very different than we first thought — in the beginning, I had envisioned us fighting our way to 2,026 delegates (the majority) and going into July, that way. We would have made the argument to the super-delegates that they must respect the majority’s will and, by drawing publicity to our cause, we would have publicly pressured them into joining our revolution — we would have gone on to the general election and defeated Trump easily to uproarious applause –!

We would have — but that has all changed.

My delegate math worked so long as the race was fair — and, by “fair,” I mean “less rigged than it obviously is.” But the DNC, the corporate-media, & the Clinton-Machine have been far more cunning & dishonest (& probably far more criminal) than I had anticipated — there is still a way through but first we must…

UNITE! ... more at link...


lauritis goes over the unsettling and disruption of the sandernista path. he points to the fact hillary does not have enough delegates, the dnc's behavior, and suggests bernie can still win at the convention....
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John Lauritis: Sanderistas, Unite! The Truth Is Coming (Part II) (Original Post) hopemountain Jun 2016 OP
How can any reasonable person read this drivel and not see it for what it is - batshit crazy. Metric System Jun 2016 #1
Key word "reasonable." grossproffit Jun 2016 #11
because 2.5 MILLION VOTES REMAIN UNCOUNTED IN CALIFORNIA, You know the state roguevalley Jun 2016 #17
I googled him and basically nothing. Hortensis Jun 2016 #39
Oh FFS... SidDithers Jun 2016 #2
This guy is batshit crazy and impervious to physical reality nt geek tragedy Jun 2016 #3
He has a Go Fund Me page called "The People's Math Front" sufrommich Jun 2016 #19
This kind of pathetic and offensive diatribe will not stop until frazzled Jun 2016 #4
You nailed it. grossproffit Jun 2016 #10
I disagree, after Bernie endorses Hillary he'll be called a sellout by the likes of Lauritis. Lord Magus Jun 2016 #12
Sanders' endorsement of Clinton is certainly going to test the limits of the "sellout" label. TwilightZone Jun 2016 #14
Sheesh Trajan Jun 2016 #13
Senator Sanders liberal from boston Jun 2016 #15
Somehow I think that Bernie, and his supporters, will manage to keep going, without djean111 Jun 2016 #18
Actually it'll stop here on Monday CorkySt.Clair Jun 2016 #37
So THAT's why I can't find any tin foil!!!! JoePhilly Jun 2016 #5
Channeling Sarah Palin with "lamestream media", I see. Congratulations on your tragedy. randome Jun 2016 #6
When she clears up the "issues" about to engulf her, then she can libdem4life Jun 2016 #7
.+1 840high Jun 2016 #9
I think you're on the wrong track underthematrix Jun 2016 #20
No, I confess to not being in the majority. There isn't an establishment libdem4life Jun 2016 #24
I think the public will be very surprised by the FBI's counter terrorism unit report. underthematrix Jun 2016 #30
We have our own Hawks...who terrorize nations on a regular basis. libdem4life Jun 2016 #33
Corporations terrorize nations. There would be no reason for us to be in underthematrix Jun 2016 #34
The wheels of Empire and Oligarchy libdem4life Jun 2016 #36
yep and those sneakers and iphones and diamonds and other underthematrix Jun 2016 #38
Lol, 5 days! nt geek tragedy Jun 2016 #21
Only on this little corner of opinion. Miniscule in the larger sphere. libdem4life Jun 2016 #25
Yes, five days until people rooting against the Democratic nominee geek tragedy Jun 2016 #29
"The #LameStreamMedia" ? You know you're off the rails when you copy Palinspeak Tarc Jun 2016 #8
I don't believe that's a realistic scenario. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #16
LOL Ace Rothstein Jun 2016 #22
It reads like a bad monologue from pulp Sci Fi. LuvLoogie Jun 2016 #23
Or a fresh salad from Sarah Palin. randome Jun 2016 #40
If this doesn't open the eyes of Sanders supporters to the fact that they have been brainwashed, eastwestdem Jun 2016 #26
This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel Jun 2016 #27
is this cross posted on FR dlwickham Jun 2016 #28
Three days until the PRIMARIES END... brooklynite Jun 2016 #31
K & R AzDar Jun 2016 #32
SMH DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #35

roguevalley

(40,656 posts)
17. because 2.5 MILLION VOTES REMAIN UNCOUNTED IN CALIFORNIA, You know the state
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 09:00 PM
Jun 2016

that didn't count because the ESTABISHMENT AP said she won before the vote was even taken. Drivel? I think not.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
39. I googled him and basically nothing.
Sat Jun 18, 2016, 02:04 PM
Jun 2016

He filled a few sites with his name, but nobody else is talking about him. Even my name will usually get a couple hits for participating in a community service project or some such drivel.

SidDithers

(44,228 posts)
2. Oh FFS...
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 07:45 PM
Jun 2016

John Lauritis was wrong from the very beginning, not because the primaries weren't "fair", but because he wasn't very smart.



Sid

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
4. This kind of pathetic and offensive diatribe will not stop until
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 07:50 PM
Jun 2016

Bernie Sanders himself makes it stop. And there's only one way to do that: to officially concede the election at some point, saying she won it fair and square, and to endorse Clinton (I would also say he should release his delegates to vote as they choose at the convention, but I'm sure I'll receive a lot of flak for that suggestion of common procedure).

It's not good enough to walk off the stage and say you're going to work to make sure Donald Trump is not elected. That's very weak sauce (and leaves his followers with many misguided options to use instead of voting for Clinton in November).

I will continue to think he is a man of very little moral principle until he does so.

Lord Magus

(1,999 posts)
12. I disagree, after Bernie endorses Hillary he'll be called a sellout by the likes of Lauritis.
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 08:05 PM
Jun 2016

I wonder if there's enough room under the bus at that point?

TwilightZone

(25,471 posts)
14. Sanders' endorsement of Clinton is certainly going to test the limits of the "sellout" label.
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 08:18 PM
Jun 2016

We'll see if what applies to the likes of Elizabeth Warren applies to the candidate himself.

 

Trajan

(19,089 posts)
13. Sheesh
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 08:16 PM
Jun 2016

Bernie has more integrity in his fingernails than any Clinton has ever known existed ...

How dare you!

No mo ...

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
18. Somehow I think that Bernie, and his supporters, will manage to keep going, without
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 09:02 PM
Jun 2016

your good opinion. I wouldn't fling around words like "moral" and "principle", either, but that's just me. I adore irony, though.

Bernie's supporters support Bernie because of many many issues where Bernie and Hillary are pretty much diametrically opposed. So condescendingly assuming that we are personality-driven sheep who will pivot obediently to Hillary seems laughable, really.

Oh, and, you know, you can make things you don't care to read "stop" - just don't click on them!

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
6. Channeling Sarah Palin with "lamestream media", I see. Congratulations on your tragedy.
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 07:53 PM
Jun 2016

[hr][font color="blue"][center]I'm always right. When I'm wrong I admit it.
So then I'm right about being wrong.
[/center][/font][hr]

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
7. When she clears up the "issues" about to engulf her, then she can
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 07:55 PM
Jun 2016

have some sway. Until then...it's sheer Republican red meat.

She needs to grow a pair, so to speak, and stop all this craziness her actions have preceded.

It's not up to us. It's up to her. Until then, yes, there will be those who will not be cowed into parroting her silence, denials, 5th ammendment pleas by staff and depositions by aides.

Fess up, Hillary. It's just feeding the trolls...from both sides.

underthematrix

(5,811 posts)
20. I think you're on the wrong track
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 09:24 PM
Jun 2016

The FBI's counter-terrorism unit is conducting the investigation which tells me whatever they're investigating it's not about HRC, Bill Clinton or the Clinton Foundation. And then there's this statement from sources familiar with the matter:

"Sources familiar with the inquiry have told NPR Clinton is not a target of the FBI investigation, which may extend for months." http://www.npr.org/sections/itsallpolitics/2015/10/01/445038117/investigating-clinton-email-server-fbi-doesnt-give-a-rip-about-politics

The only person who could've put classified information on HRC's server is the person who was given immunity. The question is who was he working for and why. While I think we will definitely win the WH and Senate, I think their findings will end up giving us the House too.

You have to realize the GOP as it exist now is a terrorist organization operating within our government for the purpose of overthrowing it.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
24. No, I confess to not being in the majority. There isn't an establishment
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 10:23 PM
Jun 2016

entity that hasn't "glossed over" the "sources". When she is cleared or does what is proper...which would be clear things up herself, then let's talk. Until then, as far as I know the FBI is not a VRWC. They are not political...which is why it's not over and done with, IMO. The Foundation is a big problem and could likely extend it past November. Aides are being deposed. What is it that Democrats don't get? This is serious, not a walk in the park.

Also, the GOP as terrorists smacks a bit of hyperpolitics. This "LaLaLaLaICan'tHearYou" is frankly simplistic and blinds our party with a hubris that could be very detrimental. Immunity and depositions aren't for the heck of it. Of course, we can shame each other into silence.

It's not each other we need to be concerned with, IMO.

underthematrix

(5,811 posts)
30. I think the public will be very surprised by the FBI's counter terrorism unit report.
Sun Jun 12, 2016, 12:12 AM
Jun 2016

I'll leave it at that.
I refer to Republican in Congress as terrorists because during the IRAN Talks 47 GOP violated the LOGAN Act when they attempted to interfere with the President's negotiation of the IRAN NUCLEAR DEAL. And more recently when a group GOP congressional members requested an Iranian visa so they could inspect Iran nuclear compliance program.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
33. We have our own Hawks...who terrorize nations on a regular basis.
Sun Jun 12, 2016, 11:50 AM
Jun 2016

Ours just do it under the cover of ... Legalized, Presumptous Empire. Oh, l I mean Defense. Both parties. Semantics, if you're a family under seige. But the the only report on that we'll have is called elections. November is coming.

And if they did bad things, which of course would not surprise me, they need to be held accountable. What a concept. Politicians, even Democrats, being held accountable.

underthematrix

(5,811 posts)
34. Corporations terrorize nations. There would be no reason for us to be in
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 01:55 AM
Jun 2016

foreign if it were not to steal their resources, obtain cheap labor and try to manipulate foreign governments to enact laws that favor the corporate bottom line - profits.

underthematrix

(5,811 posts)
38. yep and those sneakers and iphones and diamonds and other
Sat Jun 18, 2016, 01:56 PM
Jun 2016

baubles and trinkets we buy make it all possible

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
25. Only on this little corner of opinion. Miniscule in the larger sphere.
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 10:25 PM
Jun 2016

5 days ends absolutely nothing. No one is swayed by opinions here. We are all Democrats with different opinions. IOW, it doesn't matter.

Tarc

(10,476 posts)
8. "The #LameStreamMedia" ? You know you're off the rails when you copy Palinspeak
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 07:58 PM
Jun 2016

I especially like this part

...in the beginning, I had envisioned us fighting our way to 2,026 delegates (the majority) and going into July, that way. We would have made the argument to the super-delegates that they must respect the majority’s will and, by drawing publicity to our cause, we would have publicly pressured them into joining our revolution...


Funny how they no longer want to "respect the majority’s will" now that their man finished 2nd...
 

eastwestdem

(1,220 posts)
26. If this doesn't open the eyes of Sanders supporters to the fact that they have been brainwashed,
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 10:30 PM
Jun 2016

nothing will.

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