2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumSusan Sarandon in two Tweets, on the same day
Tweet 1: Scolding Elizabeth Warren as insufficiently committed to the cause of equality and fighting the elites
Susan Sarandon Verified account
?@SusanSarandon
Susan Sarandon Retweeted Elizabeth Warren
Is this meant to be ironic after you just endorsed Clinton???
Susan Sarandon added,
Elizabeth Warren @SenWarren
Government should be accountable to the people, not Wall Street lobbyists, deep-pocketed donors, and secretive Super PACs.
Tweet 2: Italian cashmere!
Susan Sarandon Verified account
?@SusanSarandon
Beautiful cashmere collection, Italian-made @FalconeriTweet in Taormina. Thank you! So generous and fun.
Don't be a Susan Sarandon.
onehandle
(51,122 posts)msanthrope
(37,549 posts)Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)Squirrel!!1!
Henhouse
(646 posts)Cha
(297,136 posts)Cooley Hurd
(26,877 posts)...and the Warren tweet WAS ironic.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)of living in the real world, unlike Naderite nitwit hypocrites like Susan Sarandon (who supported Iraq War Resolution co-sponsor, DLC darling, and hedge fund employee Papa John Edwards in 2008).
ChairmanAgnostic
(28,017 posts)riversedge
(70,186 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)Mike Nelson
(9,951 posts)...Susan. You have a right to speak out and use your wealth and celebrity, granted. But you make progressives look loony.
CorkySt.Clair
(1,507 posts)auntpurl
(4,311 posts)Response to geek tragedy (Original post)
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DURHAM D
(32,609 posts)baldguy
(36,649 posts)LenaBaby61
(6,974 posts)That since Sen. Bernie Sanders is hinting that he'll be meeting with Hillary Clinton soon, she'll throw him under the bus as well, along with Elizabeth Warren and of course Hillary whose been under the bus.
As Mama said, if you don't have something good to say about someone, then just don't say anything.
Well, I guess I can't say anything about Susan's meteoric rise to becoming queen of nitwits then
(Special mention goes out to Roseanne Barr whose also in the running with Susan for nitwit queen).
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Rosario Dawson hasn't conceded, and of course Tim Robbins is the king, which could get awkward
jzodda
(2,124 posts)Said trump was better than Clinton. Hope she moved to Mars. It's not far enough but I did hear shes from there.
Florencenj2point0
(435 posts)with such anger that she was practically spitting, getting those around her to gang up "get the video, get the video".... I will never forgive that stupid woman. With the exception of "Dead Man Walking" in which she was good, not great, she has traded on her beauty and sexuality for every roll she has done.
She is dead to me.
CorkySt.Clair
(1,507 posts)cwydro
(51,308 posts)I hope this is making the rounds on social media.
Joe the Revelator
(14,915 posts)that is remarkably tone-deaf.
Armstead
(47,803 posts)Maru Kitteh
(28,339 posts)blabbering pie-hole of hypocrisy to be pretty much worse than anyone who has the temerity to call her out on her crap. YMMV.
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)social security food money?
FUCK THE OLIGARCHY!!!...or something.
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)ya go with that
Florencenj2point0
(435 posts)the media and the men here would be calling her frumpy. Her clothes are none of your business. She pays for them herself.
CorkySt.Clair
(1,507 posts)Or just multi millionaire dead Enders like Susy?
apcalc
(4,463 posts)Snopes calls the Hillary/jacket story " MOSTLY FALSE".
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)nolabear
(41,959 posts)BobbyDrake
(2,542 posts)workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)CorkySt.Clair
(1,507 posts)still_one
(92,130 posts)Yavin4
(35,433 posts)She can afford to take a gamble on Bernie. African Americans and Latinos cannot.
Lance Bass esquire
(671 posts)N/t
Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)enid602
(8,613 posts)First Nader, then Edwards and now Bern. Her endorsement is the kiss of death.
CorkySt.Clair
(1,507 posts)So tone deaf tweets arent the only thing she's really shitty at.
BTW, Elizabeth Warren isn't someone you want to get into a war of words with, Susy. Take a seat.
TSIAS
(14,689 posts)I'll take her over that liar America Ferrera any day of the week. Sarandon was right, and Ferrera was wrong in Nevada.
La Lioness Priyanka
(53,866 posts)johnsonmilla
(2 posts)how nice of her
Ash_F
(5,861 posts)Clinton wears $12,000 outfits and does not support $15/hr.
I am not sure how that is better.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Loony limousine liberal Susan Sarandon fawns over people like Papa John Edwards but scolds Elizabeth Warren and likes Trump better than Clinton.
Ash_F
(5,861 posts)I am not a fan of the dogpile on Warren, though I think she made a mistake by not running.
She probably thought she could not win, but look how close Sanders got. We now know she would have won.
Biggest mistake of her life.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Ash_F
(5,861 posts)That does not mean she was not considering it until very late.
I think it took so long for Sanders to jump in because they were in communication about it.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)She signed a letter encouraging Clinton to run.
Ash_F
(5,861 posts)msanthrope
(37,549 posts)another female to run.....but your "gut" knows better? I don't think it's your gut.
Ash_F
(5,861 posts)msanthrope
(37,549 posts)Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)Anyone running against Hillary was guaranteed to have a Niagara of crap dumped on them.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Eric J in MN
(35,619 posts)It's owned by David Brock, who runs Hillary Clinton's coordinated Super PAC, Correct the Record.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)and let's not forget the nastiness that came directly from the Sanders campaign, such as Sanders himself calling Clinton unqualified or Jeff Weaver (who is a sexist asshole) scolding her for being too uppity.
Eric J in MN
(35,619 posts)...and the WaPo ran a headline that she called him unqualified.
I don't know if Blue Nation Review has a lot of readers but some who read it post links at DU and Twitter.
I don't think Weaver was being sexist:
A top aide to Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders warned late Tuesday that rival Hillary Clinton is running a divisive campaign that is hurting party unity.
"Don't destroy the Democratic Party to satisfy the secretary's ambitions to become president of the United States," Sanders campaign manager Jeff Weaver told CNN.
"We want to have a party at the end of this that we can unify," he added.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)the headline of a Washington Post article. There's irony there if you look for it.
This wasn't Weaver's only offense (he also mansplained to Barbara Boxer how she had no right to feel afraid of an angry mob), but it was his most shining example:
http://www.vox.com/2016/4/6/11378306/hillary-clinton-lol-ambition-attack
"This is what I would say to them, which is, you know, don't destroy the Democratic Party to satisfy the secretary's ambitions to become president of the United States," Weaver said. "We want to have a party at the end of this we can unify. Let's have a tough debate. Let's talk about the issues there's a sharp contrast between the two of them. But let's not denigrate other people's supporters and tear the party apart."
How audacious of Clinton (who remains the party's frontrunner) to want to win her race! It's not like she's been called "one of the most broadly and deeply qualified presidential candidates in modern history," or spent time in the White House, or organized one of the most powerful fundraising operations in the election. Seems like someone sprinkled a bit too much presidential ambition in her oatmeal this morning, amiright?
When asked by CNN's Chris Cuomo to comment on Sanders's assertion that her ambitions are "destroying the Democratic Party," she simply took a moment for a hearty laugh. After catching her breath, she called the idea that she's too ambitious "ludicrous" and went on to tout her work defending and fundraising for the party for the past 40 years.
Of course criticism about Clinton is expected from her opponent's campaign manager. And while some male candidates are called "too ambitious," women's ambitions are often conflated with selfishness.
Weaver's comments don't exist in a vacuum. They reflect the classic gendered critiques made of powerful women. While leadership and likability go hand in hand for men, the opposite is true for women. Study after study shows that women are often punished for seeking positions of power and are less likely to be promoted for those roles despite having equal or better skills than their male counterparts.
In fact, Weaver's description of Clinton fits so neatly into the stale sexist stereotype about powerful women that there's an actual Onion article from 2006 called "Hillary Clinton Is Too Ambitious to Be President." Ten years later, it seems like instead of progressing on female leadership, we're even farther away from reckoning with it.
Clinton knew smashing the glass ceiling of presidential politics would be arduous, but she probably didn't know it would include seeing a decade-old Onion headline become reality.
Weaver's comments were a sexist dog whistle. We can all look forward to his absence from the national conversation going forward.
Eric J in MN
(35,619 posts)..."Presidential Ambition: Gaining Power At Any Cost."
It was published in 2000. It was written about men.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Sanders campaign did a 1-2 punch of calling her "unqualified" and then said she was destroying the party because of her selfish ambition.
In other words, they were telling her to know her place and get back under the glass ceiling, and to not screw things up for the men. Despite the fact she was more qualified and had spent decades building the party Sanders had joined only in order to further his own presidential ambitions, and which he had sued and accused of committing felonious violations of federal banking law.
http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/opinion-blog/articles/2016-04-15/sanders-self-righteousness-allows-sexist-overtones-in-attacks-on-clinton
I repeat, Jeff Weaver is a sexist asshole and he will not be missed when he goes back to his comic book store.
And after that sexist 1-2 punch they tried to land (but whiffed on badly) please spare us the idea that they were the victims of an ugly smear campaign.
Eric J in MN
(35,619 posts)Sanders called Clinton unqualified because of the WaPo headline that HRC called him unqualified.
Weaver referred to Clinton's presidential ambition because "ambition" is a word applied to both men and women and run for president.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)to be the first woman president in our history for being ambitious?
And, on a related note, how does such an attack make sense given that Bernie Sanders was running for the same job?
Sanders's dumb comments about Clinton being unqualified maybe can be described as an impulsive, uninformed, rash blunder.
Weaver's comments played on a very well-known trope, on the other hand, that women deserve special criticism for trying to break into the boys' club.
lapucelle
(18,245 posts)msanthrope
(37,549 posts)AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)I will never understand Hillary supporters obsession with this woman. Reminds me of the right wing practice called, scapegoating.
ozone_man
(4,825 posts)It is incongruous that someone who has built a reputation for taking on Wall Street is supporting someone who thinks Wall Street is just fine, and is on their payroll.
SouthernDemLinda
(182 posts)If you can't talk about the real issues, you talk about Susan Sarandon.
I liked Thelma & Louise. I watched it on the movie station not long ago.
runaway hero
(835 posts)Sarandon for not be excited for the first woman nominee and Warren for letting bernie die on the vine
So it cancels out. Have a great weekend.
Eric J in MN
(35,619 posts)...Susan Sarandon doesn't trust HRC to regulate Wall St, and Sarandon likes free clothes?
If so, I have the same contradiction.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)grossproffit
(5,591 posts)Skwmom
(12,685 posts)B Calm
(28,762 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)Something, "Before we go to war in Iraq, I would like to know what Iraq did to us, wouldn't you?"
I wish someone had answered her question before the invasion wrought so much death, destruction and havoc.
The bit about cashmere is nonsense, typical of the obvious desperation to post negative things.
grossproffit
(5,591 posts)bigwillq
(72,790 posts)Great actress, and she Seems like a pretty decent human being.
CorkySt.Clair
(1,507 posts)Cha
(297,136 posts)Thanks, geek.. this is perfect.
eastwestdem
(1,220 posts)Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)Who likes to condemn all the white privilege everyone else has?
arely staircase
(12,482 posts)TeamPooka
(24,221 posts)ucrdem
(15,512 posts)Those clothes are hideous, like something Virginia Woolf would wear to scrub the WC.