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Sun Jun 12, 2016, 10:07 AM

Bernie's Meeting With Hillary Tuesday

Jennifer Epstein @jeneps
Bernie Sanders says he'll be meeting with Hillary Clinton on Tuesday night


https://twitter.com/jeneps/status/741984846470340608


Monica Alba ‏@albamonica 36m36 minutes ago
Clinton aide confirms this meeting with Sanders will take place Tuesday night

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Reply Bernie's Meeting With Hillary Tuesday (Original post)
bigtree Jun 2016 OP
rjsquirrel Jun 2016 #1
Hortensis Jun 2016 #22
yardwork Jun 2016 #2
geek tragedy Jun 2016 #3
DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #9
joshcryer Jun 2016 #23
athena Jun 2016 #4
geek tragedy Jun 2016 #5
athena Jun 2016 #7
geek tragedy Jun 2016 #10
athena Jun 2016 #17
geek tragedy Jun 2016 #20
joshcryer Jun 2016 #24
LoverOfLiberty Jun 2016 #11
Florencenj2point0 Jun 2016 #18
NorthCarolina Jun 2016 #25
annavictorious Jun 2016 #29
Florencenj2point0 Jun 2016 #32
NV Whino Jun 2016 #6
athena Jun 2016 #8
NV Whino Jun 2016 #12
LoverOfLiberty Jun 2016 #13
Whimsey Jun 2016 #15
Florencenj2point0 Jun 2016 #19
k8conant Jun 2016 #26
MoonRiver Jun 2016 #14
Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #28
MoonRiver Jun 2016 #34
Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #35
KoKo Jun 2016 #30
Agschmid Jun 2016 #16
bigtree Jun 2016 #21
azurnoir Jun 2016 #27
KoKo Jun 2016 #31
kadaholo Jun 2016 #33
MyNameGoesHere Jun 2016 #36
bigtree Jun 2016 #37
KoKo Jun 2016 #38
bigtree Jun 2016 #39

Response to bigtree (Original post)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 10:08 AM

1. I hear a bus coming

 

gotta get back in the shelter.

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Response to rjsquirrel (Reply #1)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 05:37 PM

22. Lol. I kind of imagine him coming out and

arranging separate transportation to a separate office. Best guess, no matter what's declared initially, he'll agree to pursue some of the same goals, even coordinate a bit, but just not together with her. It'll work.

My concern with him is that he could destroy his standing among the American people and end up a bit of a has-been joke. I can accept some trouble from a vigorous, successful Sanders as long as the movement he energized continues on and energizes more people to come out and demand liberal progressive action for a better America.

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 10:10 AM

2. Good.

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 10:11 AM

3. that magical moment when

 

many rooting for Clinton will find themselves relieved they were wrong about Bernie, and the dead ender Not Hillary Party members find themselves without a champion

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Response to geek tragedy (Reply #3)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 10:23 AM

9. That magic moment...

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Response to geek tragedy (Reply #3)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 05:46 PM

23. Yup.

It'll be magical indeed. The most popular Hillary hate site won't know what to do with itself without a faux champion to rally around.

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 10:12 AM

4. He didn't learn enough about her positions during the debates?

And doesn't he know enough about Trump's positions to be able to make this decision?

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Response to athena (Reply #4)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 10:13 AM

5. he's doing the right thing, cut him some slack

 

Hillary and Obama had a similar meeting in 2008.

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Response to geek tragedy (Reply #5)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 10:19 AM

7. You're right, of course.

If someone had been that disrespectful and nasty to me, I couldn't even bring myself to meet with them. But I guess that when you're a politician and you win, you have to be the bigger person and let your opponent save face.

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Response to athena (Reply #7)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 10:23 AM

10. Clinton and Obama was a nastier race.

 

Obama was a LOT more negative towards Clinton than Sanders was. He won so a lot of that has been forgotten (those of us who supported him just assumed it was justified, and those who supported her have let bygones be bygones).

And, of course, she was a lot worse in 2008 than she was in this race.



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Response to geek tragedy (Reply #10)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 10:37 AM

17. I must not have been watching very closely.

In that election, I was for Obama, and it looked to me like Obama was a total gentleman and Hillary unnecessarily nasty (though not nearly as nasty as Bernie has been). I'm not discounting your impressions; it's just interesting that we choose what we want to focus on based on our preferences. It's possible to look at the same set of facts and come away with two completely opposing impressions, depending on what one chooses to focus on.

For a long time after the election, I thought Obama should have nothing to do with Clinton. When the primary season started this time around, I wasn't enthusiastic about Hillary. Then I read two articles about her and realized there were tons of reasons to be excited.

ETA: I just re-read what I wrote, and it makes it sound like the change in my attitude toward Clinton happened overnight. It actually happened so gradually that it didn't feel like such a big change. So perhaps there is hope for those who feel they can't possibly vote for Hillary.

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Response to athena (Reply #17)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 10:47 AM

20. "she'll say anything and change nothing" was pretty damn negative

 

as was "Bush-Cheney Lite"

Water under the bridge, as the 2016 primary will be one day

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Response to athena (Reply #17)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 05:56 PM

24. Obama literately invoked the 90s era Harry and Louise ad.

Using the same fucking actors in the original ad:



Mind you, this was over the mandate, which Clinton wanted to lower costs. We saw what happened with that.

In 2008 it was nastier between the candidates, in 2016 it's been nastier between the supporters.

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Response to athena (Reply #7)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 10:25 AM

11. Its unfortunately part of the game

I'm sure the Obama's didn't forget immediately all of the things that the Clinton campaign said about them in 2008.

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Response to athena (Reply #7)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 10:38 AM

18. yup....but

He is not getting free college no matter how long he holds his breath. It is undo-able because it is unafordable.

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Response to athena (Reply #7)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 06:25 PM

25. Remember, the Obama in a turban picture was a product of the Hillary campaign, and

 

which formed the "birther" movement. You really think Bernie is more "disrespectful" and "nasty" than that? Really?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-518585/Obama-turban-Barack-accuses-Hillary-smear-campaign-circulating-photos-dressed-Muslim.html



Let me give you a little hint. The one you're backing can be pretty "disrespectful", "nasty", and if it had been done by the Republicans would have been condemned as borderline racist.

Careful that you don't fall off that high horse you're on.

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Response to NorthCarolina (Reply #25)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 06:53 PM

29. Your link (the raggy Daily Mail) got the photo and the story from the Drudge Report.

 

Says the raggy Daily Mail:

"The website (The Drudge Report) claimed it was leaked by "Clinton staffers" and published an email from one, which read: "Wouldn't we be seeing this on the cover of every magazine if it were HRC."

Is Matt Drudge the latest go to source for reliable information?

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Response to NorthCarolina (Reply #25)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 07:37 PM

32. Hillary's campaign didn't do that

and they were not responsible for darkening that portrait of him either. The pic is real, Obama took it, but it was not Hillary's campaign that circulated it. It was Drudge. God knows where he got it, probably some right wing nut oppo research.

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Response to athena (Reply #4)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 10:14 AM

6. Well, it's hard to learn about her positions when she changes them so often

I guess he's going after the position du jour.

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Response to NV Whino (Reply #6)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 10:21 AM

8. Do you realize that Hillary is not the Republican in this election?

Why would you use against the Democratic Party's presumptive nominee an attack that was invented by the Republican Party to attack a previous Democratic nominee?

It's not even true, by the way. Hillary has been remarkably consistent as a progressive throughout her adult life.

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Response to athena (Reply #8)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 10:28 AM

12. It's really hard to tell sometimes.

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Response to athena (Reply #8)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 10:28 AM

13. In adddition to what you said

I would also ask why you would use a Democratic website to do it?

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Response to NV Whino (Reply #6)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 10:35 AM

15. Everyone changes their positions over time

 

It has to do with growth and the acquisition of knowledge. The more you learn the more you realize the nuances intrinsic in any decision. Often, winning is about redefining expectations to ac.tually get what you can

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Response to NV Whino (Reply #6)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 10:39 AM

19. she hasn't changed anything since the primaries began

but changing your mind, evolving is healthy, it means you are capable of growth.

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Response to athena (Reply #4)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 06:45 PM

26. Hillary has been changing her positions....

he'll see what they are on Tuesday.

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 10:31 AM

14. Looking forward to hearing what he's going to do after Tuesday.

His decisions will not only influence his followers, but probably affect the level of influence he has at the convention.

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Response to MoonRiver (Reply #14)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 06:51 PM

28. He has already harmed himself by not conceding...and saying things like when I am president...nt.

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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #28)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 08:01 PM

34. So clueless, sigh.

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Response to MoonRiver (Reply #34)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 08:28 PM

35. I know. He is clueless...sincerely hope he does the right thing.

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Response to MoonRiver (Reply #14)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 06:55 PM

30. Here it is......."...in it to the Convention."

CBS "Face the Nation"-- Interview with Senator Bernie Sanders on Tuesday's meeting with Hillary Clinton and forward.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1017384681

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 10:36 AM

16. Kick.

We need Sanders to help us win this, he can't fade into the background.

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 04:27 PM

21. kick

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 06:49 PM

27. Bernie should remember Obama's words

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Response to azurnoir (Reply #27)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 06:56 PM

31. I'm sure that was just Campaign Rhetoric?

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Response to azurnoir (Reply #27)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 07:51 PM

33. Things are pretty much the same...

...eight years later. Sigh!

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 08:32 PM

36. Oh, isn't that big of him

to decide whether a woman can make her own decisions about her platform? Why thank you uncle Sanders for keeping the women folk on the correct path.

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Response to MyNameGoesHere (Reply #36)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 09:24 PM

37. yep

Presumptive Brauer ‏@allanbrauer

Bernie Sanders is going to test Hillary Clinton to determine whether he should allow Democrats to nominate the top vote-getting Democrat.

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Response to bigtree (Reply #37)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 09:41 PM

38. The "Top Super Delegate" pay for play Delegates...you mean..

Hey...she has her former President backing her out on the Campaign Trail and years of "Connections"...and, yet, it took last minute AP Calling the Vote for Hillary the day before 5 States had Voted and then it took Obama recording his Message that Hillary had won on the Same Day that CA had barely started voting to "Put Her Over the Top."

Something just isn't very Democratic about that in the minds of many of us Life Long Democrats.

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Response to KoKo (Reply #38)

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 09:58 PM

39. the only candidate 'playing' with superdelegates is Sanders

...the person with the most votes and the most delegates always gets the votes of superdelegates. They vote with the people in the end, supporting their candidate of choice in the primary, up to that point, which is their absolute right, like most Democrats.

Funny we didn't hear these same complaints about superdelegates when Obama had such a large share of them. Your campaign needs to address why they failed to get the votes of a majority of Democratic voters and respond to their wishes and desires as much or even more than you expect the losing campaign to get recognition at the convention.

Oh yeah, you folks also need to brush up on your math.

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