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ABCNews: How Did Hillary Clinton SuperDelegate DONOR Get on Security Board? (Original Post) Segami Jun 2016 OP
"..The Clinton campaign DECLINED to comment on our story.."......but of course they did. Segami Jun 2016 #1
Don't know, don't care. n/t Lil Missy Jun 2016 #2
That says a lot NWCorona Jun 2016 #3
Sure does......soup de jour for the weathervaners Segami Jun 2016 #5
Weathervanes? George II Jun 2016 #83
Good eye riversedge Jun 2016 #99
Yeah...that speaks volumes laserhaas Jun 2016 #4
They like it when you say that. Wilms Jun 2016 #10
Of course you don't care. 840high Jun 2016 #54
Don't you have something else to do? BootinUp Jun 2016 #6
Don't you? Segami Jun 2016 #7
You better find something else to do upaloopa Jun 2016 #81
Echo chambers are fun! Nt tex-wyo-dem Jun 2016 #94
People working together to elect Hillary will be having fun upaloopa Jun 2016 #104
Sleep will do wonders for you... Segami Jun 2016 #101
What are you going to do? We won't have to put up with you any more upaloopa Jun 2016 #102
Who's 'WE'?......The 'preferred' group? Segami Jun 2016 #105
"How do you know my name out of curiosity?" lol NWCorona Jun 2016 #8
When is the media going to ask Hillary.. Segami Jun 2016 #13
When are they gonna ask her about breaking this NWCorona Jun 2016 #18
Memo Of Understanding to the Clintons.....MEH! Segami Jun 2016 #27
Nope but it's one of the reasons why there won't be a save from Obama. NWCorona Jun 2016 #30
What was stopping Fernando from passing on Segami Jun 2016 #29
Vatican... sheshe2 Jun 2016 #48
The Vatican Trip? sheshe2 Jun 2016 #51
Vatican? sheshe2 Jun 2016 #37
Maybe he read Nukes for Dummies? InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2016 #41
This will be locked soon Skink Jun 2016 #9
Heckuva job, Raj!! n/t RufusTFirefly Jun 2016 #11
Thank you so much for posting this on a day of mourning. sheshe2 Jun 2016 #12
This has nothing to do with the tragedy. Maybe you are in the wrong forum. nt Live and Learn Jun 2016 #14
Bashing cannot stop for one day to mourn? sheshe2 Jun 2016 #17
Try preaching those words to your group.....I doubt it will help anyway. Segami Jun 2016 #19
Lol~ sheshe2 Jun 2016 #22
Thanks for reminding me of my dental appointment... Segami Jun 2016 #25
Root Canal? sheshe2 Jun 2016 #26
Actually where are your posts about their horrific deaths? 50 people died. sheshe2 Jun 2016 #47
Funny, I just checked your last post and it appears to be continuing the bashing. Live and Learn Jun 2016 #33
The one about there dentist appointment? sheshe2 Jun 2016 #36
Nope, they are continually changing. Amazingly prolific for someone in mourning. nt Live and Learn Jun 2016 #40
Please tell me more. sheshe2 Jun 2016 #43
Please tell me you lit one candle here. sheshe2 Jun 2016 #49
I'm pretty immune to these things now. I expect lots worse in the future. Live and Learn Jun 2016 #59
You should be ashamed of yourself for posing Segami Jun 2016 #15
I should be ashamed. sheshe2 Jun 2016 #20
How transparent you are.... Segami Jun 2016 #23
How transparent you are.... sheshe2 Jun 2016 #24
Wow. The Kiddie version of the... bvar22 Jun 2016 #28
Wow. The Kiddie version of the... sheshe2 Jun 2016 #31
Shame on you for using the deaths to make your point. rhett o rick Jun 2016 #32
Shame on you for using the deaths to make your point. sheshe2 Jun 2016 #38
Rhett. sheshe2 Jun 2016 #50
Promote hate? George II Jun 2016 #73
Yes the hatred for Sen Sanders is palpable. Don't pretend you don't see it. rhett o rick Jun 2016 #103
Ho hum... 3 more days. NurseJackie Jun 2016 #16
Boom! sheshe2 Jun 2016 #21
3 more days and no more Bernie bashing. I can hardly wait. Live and Learn Jun 2016 #34
BAM!.....lol Segami Jun 2016 #35
3 more days and no more Hillary bashing. I can hardly wait. sheshe2 Jun 2016 #39
I don't bash Hillary. I only state the facts like she voted for the IWR. Live and Learn Jun 2016 #60
Two. okasha Jun 2016 #69
Three more days here, but discussion will continue unabated on JPR... davidlynch Jun 2016 #96
Keep it. Ugh. Not interested in that place. NurseJackie Jun 2016 #106
How is that guy a Super-Delegate?! Peachhead22 Jun 2016 #42
He's a DNC member. DNC members are elected by a state's Democratic Party at their convention. George II Jun 2016 #67
So ordinary DNC members can be Super-Delegates? Peachhead22 Jun 2016 #74
There are 75 At Large Super Delegates. Eric J in MN Jun 2016 #77
OK, thank you Peachhead22 Jun 2016 #86
You're welcome. NT Eric J in MN Jun 2016 #87
There are about 300 superdelegates that are DNC members. You can see how many and who all.... George II Jun 2016 #80
OK thanks Peachhead22 Jun 2016 #88
He's an "At Large" Super Delegate. Eric J in MN Jun 2016 #76
This article says At Large SDs are nominated by DNC chair Eric J in MN Jun 2016 #82
I wouldn't depend on that article being accurate - it states.... George II Jun 2016 #91
For Senators they're counting two Independents Eric J in MN Jun 2016 #93
Here's the list of Illinois Superdelegates as of January: George II Jun 2016 #89
Bernie is only a temporary, newly minted, self accalimed Dem, and is a Super Delegate Sheepshank Jun 2016 #70
I've heard the opposite, that Sanders Eric J in MN Jun 2016 #79
How is that even an attempt to answer the question? Peachhead22 Jun 2016 #84
you were attempting to define who is a Super Delegate Sheepshank Jun 2016 #90
yeah, informative ones Peachhead22 Jun 2016 #92
But, but ... that's how they roll. senz Jun 2016 #44
terrified b/c Bernie can Win! HRC doesn't have enuf delegates; they are preparing: amborin Jun 2016 #45
You do realize that a fascist orange cheese puff is the Republican nominee tandem5 Jun 2016 #46
You do realize that childish name calling is not the way to beat him. nt Live and Learn Jun 2016 #62
2 more days....and no chillfactor Jun 2016 #52
After the 2-day moratorium kicks in you can follow this topic on JPR... davidlynch Jun 2016 #97
After reading through the comments on this thread, I'm amazed bjo59 Jun 2016 #53
...!100++++ 840high Jun 2016 #55
You pay, you play Vattel Jun 2016 #56
The Clintons... Else You Are Mad Jun 2016 #57
I grew tired of defending the Clintons after NAFTA. B Calm Jun 2016 #58
Yep, no more defending them from me either. nt Live and Learn Jun 2016 #61
I did come back and defended them during the impeachment, but never again. B Calm Jun 2016 #64
How has that liberal attacking Dems non-stop campaign worked out for you? MaggieD Jun 2016 #63
This is how: murielm99 Jun 2016 #65
Wow, they never stop with the smears MaggieD Jun 2016 #68
24/7 workinclasszero Jun 2016 #71
Oh wow. Egg on OP face. treestar Jun 2016 #75
Does it really matter? Is he still on that "Security Board"? Further, in his 44 years... George II Jun 2016 #66
Obviously, you didn't read the SECRET emails!! Sancho Jun 2016 #72
K & R AzDar Jun 2016 #78
On a day most of us still cant get our heads MFM008 Jun 2016 #85
ABC news report has been debunked...Fernando is qualified, serves on other national security boards Bill USA Jun 2016 #95
Thanks Bill for the heads up. Just got home. Missed it. riversedge Jun 2016 #100
Pay-for-play appointment - standard for the Clinton Dynasty n/t davidlynch Jun 2016 #98

George II

(67,782 posts)
83. Weathervanes?
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 06:23 PM
Jun 2016

How many positions have the Sanders campaign had on superdelegates since February? I count three, the latest totally opposite of their first position at the beginning of the primaries.

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
81. You better find something else to do
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 06:22 PM
Jun 2016

Soon you won't be bashing Hillary here with your bull shit.

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
104. People working together to elect Hillary will be having fun
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 08:45 PM
Jun 2016

All that Hillary hate all those months could not over come our support for her.

We are stronger than the haters

 

Segami

(14,923 posts)
101. Sleep will do wonders for you...
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 08:17 PM
Jun 2016

oh,....excuse me.....you're already sleeping.


Carry on..........

NWCorona

(8,541 posts)
8. "How do you know my name out of curiosity?" lol
Sun Jun 12, 2016, 11:03 PM
Jun 2016

The look on his face was priceless!

So much wrong with this story.

 

Segami

(14,923 posts)
13. When is the media going to ask Hillary..
Sun Jun 12, 2016, 11:34 PM
Jun 2016

Was Fernando advising Hillary Clinton about tactical nukes while he sat on the advisory board?

Why was this securities trader given Top Security Clearance that gave him full ACCESS to highly sensitive information?

Was Fernando an expert in nuclear weapons or strategist if so, what are his credentials?

Was Fernando vetted by the FBI before being given top security clearance?


Media.....ask the f*cken questions.......

 

Segami

(14,923 posts)
27. Memo Of Understanding to the Clintons.....MEH!
Sun Jun 12, 2016, 11:51 PM
Jun 2016

What's Obama going to do, call out the Clintons?........


NWCorona

(8,541 posts)
30. Nope but it's one of the reasons why there won't be a save from Obama.
Sun Jun 12, 2016, 11:56 PM
Jun 2016

There has been multiple violations to this agreement with the foundation actually being forced to return donations by Obama.

Notice who signed that agreement in Obama's place. She can't stand the Clinton's.

 

Segami

(14,923 posts)
29. What was stopping Fernando from passing on
Sun Jun 12, 2016, 11:56 PM
Jun 2016

any of the top secret sensitive information he was privy to?

Has Fernando been questioned by the FBI?

sheshe2

(83,751 posts)
12. Thank you so much for posting this on a day of mourning.
Sun Jun 12, 2016, 11:29 PM
Jun 2016

So classy.

How do you feel about those that died so needlessly?

sheshe2

(83,751 posts)
17. Bashing cannot stop for one day to mourn?
Sun Jun 12, 2016, 11:40 PM
Jun 2016

Fifty people slaughtered last night? The hate can't stop for just one night.

Ya Live and Learn.....I am learning the hate will never stop.

sheshe2

(83,751 posts)
47. Actually where are your posts about their horrific deaths? 50 people died.
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 02:02 AM
Jun 2016

53 more wounded. They may not survive. They were slaughtered. Where are your comments.

At the very least tell me you responded to one link and lit a candle. Please tell me you lit one candle.

Live and Learn

(12,769 posts)
33. Funny, I just checked your last post and it appears to be continuing the bashing.
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 12:01 AM
Jun 2016

Or do your admonitions only apply to Bernie supporters?

sheshe2

(83,751 posts)
49. Please tell me you lit one candle here.
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 02:57 AM
Jun 2016

50 were slaughtered. LGBT! Please tell me you lit a candle here.

Please!

Live and Learn

(12,769 posts)
59. I'm pretty immune to these things now. I expect lots worse in the future.
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 08:35 AM
Jun 2016

I am doing everything I can to prevent such things but others vote to continue them.

As long as we continue on the path of war, divisiveness, economic inequality and social injustice things will only get worse.

 

Segami

(14,923 posts)
15. You should be ashamed of yourself for posing
Sun Jun 12, 2016, 11:37 PM
Jun 2016

such a question just to score your own selfish personal points......ashamed!

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
28. Wow. The Kiddie version of the...
Sun Jun 12, 2016, 11:53 PM
Jun 2016
Tu Quoque Fallacy.

I don't usually get to see that one on adult boards.
Thanks for the laughs.

sheshe2

(83,751 posts)
31. Wow. The Kiddie version of the...
Sun Jun 12, 2016, 11:58 PM
Jun 2016

tu quoque



Tu quoque or the appeal to hypocrisy is an informal logical fallacy that intends to discredit the validity of the opponent's logical argument by asserting the opponent's failure to act consistently in accordance with its conclusion(s).

I don't usually get to see that one on adult boards.
Thanks for the laughs.

No, Thank you.




Live and Learn

(12,769 posts)
60. I don't bash Hillary. I only state the facts like she voted for the IWR.
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 08:37 AM
Jun 2016

DU has changed so much that I presume some here think that is a good thing. And we know many here approve of her corporate money and Clinton Foundation donation rewarding.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
106. Keep it. Ugh. Not interested in that place.
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 08:56 PM
Jun 2016

Seen it once ... That was one too many times for me. You guys have fun helping trump to win if that's what you feel you need to do.

Peachhead22

(1,078 posts)
42. How is that guy a Super-Delegate?!
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 12:40 AM
Jun 2016

I thought Super-delegates were either elected Democrats or party bigwigs. Big donors are too? That's just wrong.

Peachhead22

(1,078 posts)
74. So ordinary DNC members can be Super-Delegates?
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 05:59 PM
Jun 2016

Instead of just elected Dems and party officials? Note, I'm focusing on the "super" part of the phrase. If the article had said he's an ordinary delegate appointed to represent a candidate based on a primary or caucus I wouldn't have questioned it.

Eric J in MN

(35,619 posts)
77. There are 75 At Large Super Delegates.
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 06:11 PM
Jun 2016

They're chosen by the DNC and include donors.

The guy got rich from helping to create high-frequency trading software and donated his way to becoming a Super Delegate.

Eric J in MN

(35,619 posts)
76. He's an "At Large" Super Delegate.
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 06:04 PM
Jun 2016

The 75 At Large Super Delegates are selected by the DNC. In his case, for donating.

George II

(67,782 posts)
91. I wouldn't depend on that article being accurate - it states....
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 06:36 PM
Jun 2016

...there are 47 Democratic Senators and 21 Democratic Governors.

Last time I checked those numbers were 44 and 20.

Eric J in MN

(35,619 posts)
93. For Senators they're counting two Independents
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 06:43 PM
Jun 2016

...plus the DC Shadow Senator.

For governors they're counting the mayor of DC.

George II

(67,782 posts)
89. Here's the list of Illinois Superdelegates as of January:
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 06:29 PM
Jun 2016

Ald. Carrie Austin
Former Congressman Jerry Costello
State Senate President John Cullerton
Rajiv Fernando, CEO of Scoutahead
John Keller, Young Democrats of America DNC National Committeeman
Educator Jayne Mazzotti
Steven Powell, secretary-treasurer and UFCW International cice president
Chicago Cubs co-owner Laura Ricketts
State Sen. Carol Ronen
Karen Yarbrough, Cook County recorder of deeds and vice chair of Illinois Democratic Party

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
70. Bernie is only a temporary, newly minted, self accalimed Dem, and is a Super Delegate
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 02:21 PM
Jun 2016

He said he was a Dem only for the election and has already stated he will revert to Indie after the elections.

The rest of the time he bashed Dems.

Peachhead22

(1,078 posts)
84. How is that even an attempt to answer the question?
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 06:26 PM
Jun 2016

Instead of just an excuse to make gratuitous digs at a candidate who won 45% of the delegates despite enormous institutional disadvantages. Bernie must be really haunting your dreams for you to bring him up in a question that had zero to do with him. smh

First off, Bernie was elected which makes him far more qualified to be a super-delegate than Rajiv Fernando.

Secondly, Bernie is currently a Democrat who ran in the Democratic primary and got about 45% of the delegates to Clinton's 55%. So it's not at all surprising he would be a super-delegate. Even if Bernie got 1% that would be thousands more votes than Rajiv Fernando.

Lastly, the only place I suspect you've seen that Bernie "stated" that he intended to revert to Indie is in your dreams. I suspect he's going to be sticking around and making life uncomfortable for the Big Money wing of the party.

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
90. you were attempting to define who is a Super Delegate
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 06:31 PM
Jun 2016

I provided you with a response that isn't like all of the others you listed.

I have no problem avoiding responding to you in the future...clearly you seem to be only looking for certain responses.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
44. But, but ... that's how they roll.
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 12:46 AM
Jun 2016

It is what it is.

It's the Clinton System.

It's how weapons get distributed around the world.

Why, the Clinton Foundation is a major global player!

Who are we to question such powerful entities as they?

davidlynch

(644 posts)
97. After the 2-day moratorium kicks in you can follow this topic on JPR...
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 07:05 PM
Jun 2016

JPR will keep following this story plus others no longer allowed on DU:

http://jackpineradicals.org/

I'm going to keep both browsers running so I can get the complete picture.

bjo59

(1,166 posts)
53. After reading through the comments on this thread, I'm amazed
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 03:28 AM
Jun 2016

that not one fan of Hillary Clinton could bring him or herself to stand up for her with regard to this. It's strange to support a candidate that one has to so frequently divert attention away from.

Else You Are Mad

(3,040 posts)
57. The Clintons...
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 07:45 AM
Jun 2016

would do ANYTHING for money. They may be good politicians, but their greed is putting the democratic party in danger.

 

B Calm

(28,762 posts)
64. I did come back and defended them during the impeachment, but never again.
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 12:59 PM
Jun 2016

I just wished they would fade away somewhere into the woods in upstate NY.

 

MaggieD

(7,393 posts)
63. How has that liberal attacking Dems non-stop campaign worked out for you?
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 12:19 PM
Jun 2016

Just curious as to how you think this has worked over the course of the primary campaign? Has it helped Bernie in your estimation? I am asking sincerely because I thought his campaign's decision to attack the Dems and the DNC was a total loser.

I never would have imagined that attacking the party for which you are trying to win the nomination would work. And of course it did not. I think these kind of baseless attacks are what helped him lose.

I will tell you honestly, Bernie would have always been a hard sell for me because I am very much a policy wonk, and I was very much aware of what he was saying that was in no way true. But his supporters (here and elsewhere) really, really turned me off to him. There was no redeeming my vote for him after what I have seen from them.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
75. Oh wow. Egg on OP face.
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 05:59 PM
Jun 2016

It is clear they are willing to run with anything they think might stick and get it from the right wing, too.

George II

(67,782 posts)
66. Does it really matter? Is he still on that "Security Board"? Further, in his 44 years...
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 01:47 PM
Jun 2016

....is donating to the Clinton Foundation the ONLY thing he ever did?

Sancho

(9,067 posts)
72. Obviously, you didn't read the SECRET emails!!
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 04:14 PM
Jun 2016

The "Donor" (his real name is TOP SECRET) is really a CIA SPY!! The whole idea is to sneak businessmen and foundation workers into countries all over the world, collect information, assassinate foreign leaders, and never raise suspicion.

In fact, the Clinton server had coded emails to "Clinton Foundation" workers, donors, and operatives that provided drone targets, surveillance, and weapons deliveries!!

Chances are YOU violated a dozen laws by simply posting this OP!!!

If Skinner's new rules don't get you, the FBI will be at your door soon.

MFM008

(19,808 posts)
85. On a day most of us still cant get our heads
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 06:27 PM
Jun 2016

around politics because of this weekends catastrophe, all I can say
is 3 more days for this stuff in DU.
For a moment today it looked like its old self.

Bill USA

(6,436 posts)
95. ABC news report has been debunked...Fernando is qualified, serves on other national security boards
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 06:52 PM
Jun 2016

Conservative Media Run with Faulty ABC Report Alleging HRC “Sold A Seat” On Intelligence Advisory Brd
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12512182220
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