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Mon Jun 13, 2016, 08:25 PM

So, where do you draw the line?

What line? The one where you can do something while under FBI scrutiny.

Buy groceries, but not a gun. Sounds reasonable to me. Drive a car? Ok.

Run for Mayor? The Senate? President?

Where do you draw the line?

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Reply So, where do you draw the line? (Original post)
hootinholler Jun 2016 OP
LexVegas Jun 2016 #1
hootinholler Jun 2016 #3
LexVegas Jun 2016 #12
Duckhunter935 Jun 2016 #28
Puglover Jun 2016 #42
Duckhunter935 Jun 2016 #43
Puglover Jun 2016 #44
azurnoir Jun 2016 #54
AgingAmerican Jun 2016 #39
Hortensis Jun 2016 #2
hootinholler Jun 2016 #10
Hortensis Jun 2016 #15
John Poet Jun 2016 #4
TwilightZone Jun 2016 #5
hootinholler Jun 2016 #7
Post removed Jun 2016 #14
TwilightZone Jun 2016 #17
Squinch Jun 2016 #24
zappaman Jun 2016 #19
Squinch Jun 2016 #21
geek tragedy Jun 2016 #23
hootinholler Jun 2016 #25
Autumn Jun 2016 #37
yallerdawg Jun 2016 #46
Starry Messenger Jun 2016 #41
Bobbie Jo Jun 2016 #47
stevenleser Jun 2016 #48
hootinholler Jun 2016 #49
joshcryer Jun 2016 #56
joshcryer Jun 2016 #55
Live and Learn Jun 2016 #6
Snotcicles Jun 2016 #59
onehandle Jun 2016 #8
Bill USA Jun 2016 #9
hootinholler Jun 2016 #13
Juicy_Bellows Jun 2016 #27
ZombieHorde Jun 2016 #11
MissDeeds Jun 2016 #51
ZombieHorde Jun 2016 #52
geek tragedy Jun 2016 #16
brooklynite Jun 2016 #18
grossproffit Jun 2016 #20
Sancho Jun 2016 #22
Fumesucker Jun 2016 #31
Sancho Jun 2016 #33
Fumesucker Jun 2016 #34
Sancho Jun 2016 #35
Fumesucker Jun 2016 #36
TwilightZone Jun 2016 #60
Adrahil Jun 2016 #26
NorthCarolina Jun 2016 #29
PowerToThePeople Jun 2016 #30
felix_numinous Jun 2016 #32
840high Jun 2016 #38
senz Jun 2016 #40
Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #45
brooklynite Jun 2016 #50
pdsimdars Jun 2016 #53
joshcryer Jun 2016 #57
MyNameGoesHere Jun 2016 #58

Response to hootinholler (Original post)

Mon Jun 13, 2016, 08:26 PM

1. On the 16th. nt

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Response to LexVegas (Reply #1)

Mon Jun 13, 2016, 08:29 PM

3. Tick fucking tock baby.

Care to answer the question?

Maybe at least acknowledge the irony?

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Response to hootinholler (Reply #3)

Mon Jun 13, 2016, 08:39 PM

12. You asked where I would draw the line. I answered.

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Response to LexVegas (Reply #12)

Mon Jun 13, 2016, 09:23 PM

28. 13 hides, impressive

 

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Response to Duckhunter935 (Reply #28)

Tue Jun 14, 2016, 08:07 AM

42. These posters seem to forget that the 16th is also a day

when they had better rethink their behavior.

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Response to Puglover (Reply #42)

Tue Jun 14, 2016, 08:22 AM

43. Indeed so

 

I am saddened that Skinner will give them another amnesty. They all should be put on an immediate time out. Anybody with 5+ hides.

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Response to Duckhunter935 (Reply #43)

Tue Jun 14, 2016, 08:26 AM

44. I suspect that it will be similar to the past 8 years.

An "I love Obama" or "How DARE you say something other then positive about our President. You're a hater." inserted frequently in seems to afford posters immunity in spite of really bad behavior.

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Response to Puglover (Reply #42)

Tue Jun 14, 2016, 06:04 PM

54. If Bernie hasn't conceded by the 16th I suspect a sort of immunity will be granted

because until he concedes it can be said he is part of the opposition to real Democrats right along with Trump

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Response to hootinholler (Reply #3)

Mon Jun 13, 2016, 10:17 PM

39. It is much easier to put their fingers in their ears and say, "la la la lalalalala"

 

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Response to hootinholler (Original post)

Mon Jun 13, 2016, 08:28 PM

2. Well I'd start with a properly issued court order.

Just in case the FBI thinks it doesn't have better things to do than follow me around a grocery store, let them convince a federal judge of it first.

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Response to Hortensis (Reply #2)

Mon Jun 13, 2016, 08:37 PM

10. Now there's a silly notion

Maybe a highly trained and skilled lawyer would not suggest curtailing rights because of an accusation, would they?

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Response to hootinholler (Reply #10)

Mon Jun 13, 2016, 08:47 PM

15. Requiring court orders to allow spying on us are silly?

Last edited Tue Jun 14, 2016, 06:23 AM - Edit history (1)

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Response to hootinholler (Original post)

Mon Jun 13, 2016, 08:29 PM

4. There IS no line, if your name is Hillary Clinton.

 

I would think they have made that pretty clear by now.

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Response to hootinholler (Original post)

Mon Jun 13, 2016, 08:31 PM

5. Aw, aren't you just the cutest thing?

You come up with that all by yourself?

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Response to TwilightZone (Reply #5)

Mon Jun 13, 2016, 08:35 PM

7. It was transmitted via my tinfoil hat.


Care to answer the actual question seriously?

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Response to Post removed (Reply #14)

Mon Jun 13, 2016, 08:54 PM

17. Eesh. That was before I came back.

Looks like I should be glad I was still away from DU then. I thought the current state was bad enough.

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Response to TwilightZone (Reply #17)

Mon Jun 13, 2016, 09:02 PM

24. Yeah. Things got pretty disgusting. A few very sick minds were revealed.

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Response to Post removed (Reply #14)

Mon Jun 13, 2016, 08:56 PM

19. Wtf?

How did that survive a jury?

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Response to zappaman (Reply #19)

Mon Jun 13, 2016, 08:58 PM

21. How, indeed.

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Response to Squinch (Reply #21)

Mon Jun 13, 2016, 09:02 PM

23. Rhetorical question of course. nt

 

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Response to zappaman (Reply #19)

Mon Jun 13, 2016, 09:07 PM

25. Probably because the jury considered the whole context

I expected it to be hidden, in fact I was worried about a 7-0 hide.

Go figure.

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Response to hootinholler (Reply #25)

Mon Jun 13, 2016, 10:10 PM

37. 3-4 to keep huh?

Who would have thought. Juries sure are funny sometimes.

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Response to hootinholler (Reply #25)

Tue Jun 14, 2016, 08:37 AM

46. I would expect that kind of personal attack...

to meet NO community standard of a website.

How would that "post" be removed and never referenced again?

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Response to zappaman (Reply #19)

Mon Jun 13, 2016, 10:44 PM

41. How is he still a member?

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Response to Starry Messenger (Reply #41)

Tue Jun 14, 2016, 08:48 AM

47. No kidding.



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Response to Starry Messenger (Reply #41)

Tue Jun 14, 2016, 08:50 AM

48. What's really fascinating is that the mention of it was hidden but not the original post.

 

And these folks argue that Hillary supporters were the nasty ones here. We're all about to see who has an easier time being civil.

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Response to Starry Messenger (Reply #41)

Tue Jun 14, 2016, 12:27 PM

49. I don't know how he is still a member

Setting up an external website to launch attacks on DUers used to be a bannable offense.

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Response to hootinholler (Reply #49)

Tue Jun 14, 2016, 06:13 PM

56. He created the JPR hate site?

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Response to zappaman (Reply #19)

Tue Jun 14, 2016, 06:10 PM

55. Brigading by very ugly people.

That was back when AA posters were getting hides for nothing.

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Response to hootinholler (Original post)

Mon Jun 13, 2016, 08:33 PM

6. Let Skinner call it.

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Response to Live and Learn (Reply #6)

Tue Jun 14, 2016, 06:21 PM

59. LOL, sharp as a tack. nt

 

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Response to hootinholler (Original post)

Mon Jun 13, 2016, 08:36 PM

9. read up on something called: "presumption of innocence", as opposed to McCarthyism

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Response to Bill USA (Reply #9)

Mon Jun 13, 2016, 08:40 PM

13. Interesting

Are you implying that Hillary ignored that foundational principle of U.S. law?

I'm paraphrasing, but didn't she say that no one under FBI scrutiny should be able to buy such a weapon as was used in Orlando?

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Response to hootinholler (Reply #13)

Mon Jun 13, 2016, 09:13 PM

27. I hadn't thought of that in those terms.

It is interesting.

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Response to hootinholler (Original post)

Mon Jun 13, 2016, 08:38 PM

11. I like innocent until proven guilty

as far as restrictions go.

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Response to ZombieHorde (Reply #11)

Tue Jun 14, 2016, 02:08 PM

51. So then someone under FBI scrutiny

 

should be able to buy a firearm? Hillary doesn't think so.

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Response to MissDeeds (Reply #51)

Tue Jun 14, 2016, 04:21 PM

52. The argument makes sense to me,

but I still favor innocent until proven guilty. The restriction could potentially save lives, so I very much respect the opposing view.

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Response to hootinholler (Original post)

Mon Jun 13, 2016, 08:50 PM

16. little over 48 hours until Addition by Subtraction Day

 

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Response to hootinholler (Original post)

Mon Jun 13, 2016, 08:55 PM

18. Three!

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Response to hootinholler (Original post)

Mon Jun 13, 2016, 08:56 PM

20. Due process seems to mean nothing to some.

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Response to hootinholler (Original post)

Mon Jun 13, 2016, 08:58 PM

22. The line...how about investigating crazy gunmen instead of emails about the SoS and yoga!!

When someone goes to Saudia Arabia twice, has an ex-wife say he's crazy and abusive, has a coworker say he's threatening, goes to the mosque with a known suicide bomber, and buys assault weapons AFTER HE'S ON THE FBI LIST AND HAS BEEN INTERVIEWED TWICE - then they need to spend their time more wisely!

Or else they are incompetent.

My line - quit wasting time and money on RW, GOP witch hunts and get your real job done!!

Almost time that these flame bait OPs go away!!



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Response to Sancho (Reply #22)

Mon Jun 13, 2016, 09:46 PM

31. Hillary set up her private server because the SD IT dept is incompetent

Now you tell us that the FBI is incompetent.

Government incompetence is the Republican meme, not the Democratic one.

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Response to Fumesucker (Reply #31)

Mon Jun 13, 2016, 09:54 PM

33. You are making stuff up..

"set up her private server because the SD IT dept is incompetent"

My pet schnauzer could have done a better investigation of the Orlando shooter.

If they are competent, then their resources are mishandled. You can't have it both ways.

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Response to Sancho (Reply #33)

Mon Jun 13, 2016, 09:59 PM

34. I diidn't realize you folks had moved on to she set up the server to avoid FOIA requests

I thought the meme was still that the SD email was so bad that Hillary was forced to set up her own server to get her job done.

Sorry, it's hard to keep up.

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Response to Fumesucker (Reply #34)

Mon Jun 13, 2016, 10:02 PM

35. Then you can't read...I'll help you ... have fun...

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/hillary-clintons-email-server-traced-to-home-based-service-ap/

In November 2012, without explanation, Clinton's private email account was reconfigured to use Google's servers as a backup in case her own personal email server failed, according to Internet records. That is significant because Clinton publicly supported Google's accusations in June 2011 that China's government had tried to break into the Google mail accounts of senior U.S. government officials. It was one of the first instances of a major American corporation openly accusing a foreign government of hacking.
Then, in July 2013, five months after she resigned as secretary of state, Clinton's private email server was reconfigured again to use a Denver-based commercial email provider, MX Logic, which is now owned by McAfee Inc., a top Internet security company.
https://www.hillaryclinton.com/p/briefing/factsheets/2015/07/13/email-facts/

http://mediamatters.org/research/2015/08/12/myths-and-facts-on-hillary-clintons-email-and-r/204913

http://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2015/08/14/ap-exclusive-top-secret-clinton-emails-include-drone-talk

http://mediamatters.org/research/2015/08/14/state-dept-shuts-down-foxs-anonymous-speculatio/204941

State Dept. Shuts Down Fox's Anonymous Speculation Of Clinton Aides Stripping Email Classification Markings

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2015/08/19/clinton-lawyer-no-undisclosed-e-mails-left-on-server-turned-over-to-fbi/

http://harpers.org/blog/2008/01/the-emails-that-dick-cheney-deleted/

The White House possesses no archived e-mail messages for many of its component offices, including the Executive Office of the President and the Office of the Vice President, for hundreds of days between 2003 and 2005, according to the summary of an internal White House study that was disclosed yesterday by a congressional Democrat.
The 2005 study whose credibility the White House attacked this week identified 473 separate days in which no electronic messages were stored for one or more White House offices, said House Oversight and Government Reform Committee Chairman Henry A. Waxman (D-Calif.).

https://www.facebook.com/TheBriefing2016/videos/vb.415405165314505/452560401598981/?type=2&theater

http://www.dailynewsbin.com/news/state-department-confirms-hillary-clinton-email-violated-no-laws-or-policies/21851/

State Department confirms Hillary Clinton email violated no laws or policies


https://www.facebook.com/TheBriefing2016/videos/vb.415405165314505/452560401598981/?type=2&theater

http://www.dailynewsbin.com/news/state-department-confirms-hillary-clinton-email-violated-no-laws-or-policies/21851/

http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-pn-jeb-bush-emails-and-ebook-20150210-story.html

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/hillary-clintons-email-server-traced-to-home-based-service-ap/

https://www.hillaryclinton.com/p/briefing/factsheets/2015/07/13/email-facts/

http://mediamatters.org/research/2015/08/12/myths-and-facts-on-hillary-clintons-email-and-r/204913

http://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2015/08/14/ap-exclusive-top-secret-clinton-emails-include-drone-talk

http://mediamatters.org/research/2015/08/14/state-dept-shuts-down-foxs-anonymous-speculatio/204941

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2015/08/19/clinton-lawyer-no-undisclosed-e-mails-left-on-server-turned-over-to-fbi/

http://harpers.org/blog/2008/01/the-emails-that-dick-cheney-deleted/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-hillary-clinton-e-mail-scandal-that-isnt/2015/08/27/b1cabed8-4cf4-11e5-902f-39e9219e574b_story.html

http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2015/08/30/clinton-controversy-no-comparison-petraeus-column/71421242/

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/hillary-clinton-emails-state-department--2

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/042f508d2f5a4c9e806b9900e0fc7c77/so-far-legal-experts-see-no-criminal-trouble-clinton#



http://www.politicususa.com/2015/09/11/hillary-clinton-email-scandal-crumbles-justice-department-laws-broken.html

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/sep/10/justice-department-rules-hillary-clinton-followed-/

http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2015/09/11/3700451/demystifying-classified-material/

http://www.dailynewsbin.com/news/usa-today-admits-hillary-clinton-email-scandal-is-a-sham/22371/

http://mediamatters.org/research/2015/09/24/politico-acknowledges-doj-confirmation-that-cli/205777

http://mediamatters.org/research/2016/01/10/state-department-disproves-hugh-hewitts-claim-t/207884


http://www.forbes.com/forbes/welcome/#1d1a738d552d

http://www.newsweek.com/hillary-clinton-email-scandal-not-scandal-464414

http://www.mediaite.com/online/hillary-clintons-emails-are-a-threat-to-life-as-we-know-it/

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Response to Sancho (Reply #35)

Mon Jun 13, 2016, 10:08 PM

36. I am not a smart man

It's not nice to mock the differently abled.

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Response to Sancho (Reply #35)

Tue Jun 14, 2016, 06:22 PM

60. I'm going to have to steal this.

Well, actually, I'm just going to send people to this post.

Thank you for compiling all of that. Should prove useful.

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Response to hootinholler (Original post)

Mon Jun 13, 2016, 09:09 PM

26. How many posters will commit suicide by mod on Thursday?

 

I plan to tune in. Could be pretty Epic.

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Response to hootinholler (Original post)

Mon Jun 13, 2016, 09:31 PM

29. The line can be drawn between the top 10% and the bottom 90%. After that it

 

becomes easy. Those above the line can pretty much operate in god mode.

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Response to NorthCarolina (Reply #29)

Mon Jun 13, 2016, 09:34 PM

30. This

 

is truth.

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Response to hootinholler (Original post)

Mon Jun 13, 2016, 09:52 PM

32. That line is made of $$$$$$$$$$

which apparently trumps truth, liberty and justice for all, to some.

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Response to felix_numinous (Reply #32)

Mon Jun 13, 2016, 10:16 PM

38. yep +10

 

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Response to hootinholler (Original post)

Mon Jun 13, 2016, 10:38 PM

40. Depends on who you are. Obviously.

 

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Response to hootinholler (Original post)

Tue Jun 14, 2016, 08:36 AM

45. No guns if you beat up your wife and are known to hang with terrorists...not hard at all

I think the FBI director should be fired...he spends all this time on emails...and let this guy go to Saudi Arabia, hang with known terrorists and didn't even block his ability to purchase a gun. Oh and ban all assault weapons now.

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Response to hootinholler (Original post)

Tue Jun 14, 2016, 01:17 PM

50. Today (since this thread is still running) I draw the line under the "2"

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Response to hootinholler (Original post)

Tue Jun 14, 2016, 05:54 PM

53. It seems to depend on WHO you are for where that line has to be drawn.

 

We have a dual justice system. Which means we don't really have a rule of law. And without that, you don't have a country. Unless it gets fixed, we will fall apart.

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Response to hootinholler (Original post)

Tue Jun 14, 2016, 06:14 PM

57. Why am I not surprised Sanders "supporters" really ARE gunners?

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Response to hootinholler (Original post)

Tue Jun 14, 2016, 06:16 PM

58. Bibi can help you with drawing things like that

he draws cartoon red lines, I guess he could branch out for you.

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