National poll: Clinton lead grows over Trump

[workinclasszero]

By NICK GASS 06/14/16 06:16 AM EDT

Hillary Clinton’s advantage over Donald Trump grew over the course of the last week, according to the results of the latest NBC News/SurveyMonkey poll released Tuesday.

In the same week that Clinton clinched the Democratic nomination and Trump continued his criticism of federal Judge Gonzalo Curiel, the former secretary of state leads 49 percent to 42 percent.

Clinton narrowed Trump’s lead among men and white voters to single digits over the past week and now leads Trump by 25 points — 58 percent to 33 percent — among voters describing themselves as moderate. Trump led men by 14 points in last week’s survey but now leads by only 9 points in this week’s poll — 51 percent to 42 percent. Among white voters, Trump’s lead also shrank to 9 points, 50 percent to 41 percent.

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/06/poll-trump-clinton-who-is-winning-224298

[Blue_Adept]

1. :D

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But, but, I keep reading how she's going to get crushed by him and only Bernie can save us?

Course, silly me, I always thought both of them would poll far better than Trump once we got past the primary season and focused on things.

[LoverOfLiberty]

4. Its a shame

that there are a fair number of them here that would rather see Trump win so that they could be proven right.

[BootinUp]

2. Wow. I knew it would happen, but so happy to see.

These trends are going to be locked in for good with another bad week or two for the Trumpster.

[Dem2]

3. Trumpster Fire

lol

[workinclasszero]

9. Hahahahahahaha!

Good one!

[Reter]

5. Was this poll taken since the FL shooting?

If it was, that's impressive.

[leftynyc]

8. The dates were

June 6 to June 12.

[NurseJackie]

6. Sure is a pity that she's such a weak candidate ...

[workinclasszero]

10. IKR?

[mcar]

7. Big kick!

[Exilednight]

11. +/- 1.4? What are they smoking?

It's way too early for that kind of MOE.

[qdouble]

15. Not really, they are basing it on what happens if the elections were today, not November.

[Exilednight]

19. Since elections are held in November, that means this poll is meaningless.

[qdouble]

20. Well BS supporters were going crazy about polls that were taken even earlier, and HRC

supporters were the one's saying they were meaningless.

In truth, this far out they are just a snapshot of current public opinion. Of course they can change since November is month's away.

[kstewart33]

31. What about those polls showing Bernie beating Trump by a larger margin than Clinton?

They must be meaningless too.

[Exilednight]

33. it depends on how questions are phrased.

[jzodda]

12. wow great

Trump is tanking.

His insane response to Orlando should help those numbers continue to go down especially when measured by the thoughtful response by Clinton with specific policy recommendations.

Trump=toast

[workinclasszero]

13. The man is a raving nutcase

He is a birther FFS!

Every time he opens his fat racist hater mouth it creates voters for Hillary!

If the mainstream republicans don't screw him out of the nomination at their convention Trump will destroy their party forever hopefully.

[MoonRiver]

14. Sweeeeet!

Can't wait to see that disgusting and ignorant POS taken down by our brilliant Hillary!

[anotherproletariat]

16. People are realizing that Donald losing would be like finally defeating their childhood bully.

It would be a very satisfying, long overdue triumph.

[cloudythescribbler]

17. But Trump is NOW going to try to ride the Orlando Massacre right to the White House ...

... and he might succeed

This poll reflects the state of things just BEFORE the massacre. Now the narrative about 'terrorism' is going to rise to the forefront and last for quite a while. Those (like myself) who strongly support gun control are pretty much already going to vote Democratic (or in some cases not vote or vote Green). But 9/11 was successfully milked for a long time, even if most effective in areas and among populations farthest from ground zero. It is a perverse accident of fate that this occurred smack in the middle of the largest of all the swing states

It is amazing from any standpoint of a reasonable world that Trump would and could brag about people "congratulating" him (as he put it) for his stance on terrorism, and his already milking this issue shamelessly, focusing on Islamic immigration. The weakness of the MSM in calling him on these things bodes very ill

For a long time, I have noted that although in the leadup to the Iraq War there was plenty of discussion about jihadi internet chatter obviously gloating at the prospect of the US launching such idiocy, and how it would clearly make many millions across the Islamic world more receptive to jihadism

This election cycle, I would imagine there must be plenty of such internet chatter about Trump. Have we heard jack squat about it from any major quarter, from anywhere in the MSM? Not to my knowledge -- please let me know if you have heard/seen examples of such coverage, w/linx

[Surya Gayatri]

18. Massive K & R. Thanks for posting. Good for Team Hillary et al.

[Vattel]

21. She can beat Trump in November.

[wyldwolf]

22. but Julian Assange is working overtime to bring her down for Trump...

... provided he stays a few steps ahead of the Swedish government.

[TheBlackAdder]

23. It's nice to know that she can possibly beat a crypto-fascist bigot. Gore Vidal would be proud.

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Of course, Trump is doing this until be becomes the nominee.


After that, he will shift slightly centric, his words will have 6 more months to become commonplace, and many of the Right Wingers will come back to the fold. The better polls will be a month after his nomination as the party's candidate.


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[eastwestdem]

25. I think you might be on the wrong site. This one is for Democrats. nt

[TheBlackAdder]

26. I'm probably more of a Democrat than you, and as a Poli-Sci Continuing Ed guy, more analytical.

[qdouble]

27. Even if Trump tried to run to the center, there's way to much batshit crazy shit that he's said on

video in the last few months. You can best believe the campaigns won't let him try to redefine himself and will play clip after clip of him being the real Trump.

[TheBlackAdder]

29. Time and again, history has shown Conservatives are detached from reality and live in a bubble.

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Trump just needs a few months, along with a push from the RW owned media, and he'll be a contender again.

They also have a vested interest because he drives traffic to their sites and shows. They don't want a blowout.


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[qdouble]

30. Trump can't win by getting conservative votes alone though. I don't think anyone doubts that Trump

will get support from that group... however, he is seemingly too idiotic to understand that the same things that gave him an edge in the primaries are the same things that will come to haunt him in the general.

[TheBlackAdder]

34. The Reps had a stronger primary turnout. If that translates to the general, there will be problems.

[qdouble]

35. Primary turnout is only idicative of how competitve the primary race is, it doesn't indicate who

will get more votes in the general.

[kstewart33]

32. Bernie can beat him too, right?

[robbedvoter]

24. My thoughts and prayers to the narrative. Those were the only polls that mattered

right? Enough to justify overturning the will of the people right? Just checking.

[qdouble]

28. Polls were meaningful when it meant overturning the will of the democratic voters,

but they are not meaningful when it shows that Hillary will beat Trump.

I take it you haven't got your #BernieMath certificate yet?