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CrowCityDem

(2,348 posts)
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 09:35 AM Jun 2016

The state of ".. or bust"

Now that we've had a bit of time for the hard feelings of the primary to settle down, and we've seen a glimpse into the future, I was wondering what the position of the "or bust" crowd is now.

We've just seen Donald Trump pull back the curtain, going full-on racist, fascist, and whatever other adjectives you thought could only exist in bad political movies. Trump is showing himself to be not just completely incompetent for the job, but a real threat to America's standing as the moral leader of the world. The way he talks, Trump will open up the floodgates of hatred in this country, taking us back to a time when anyone who wasn't a straight white man was the target of prejudice and exclusion.

Seeing what Trump is, how many of those "busters" are still holding out, saying it doesn't matter if Trump wins in the fall?

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The state of ".. or bust" (Original Post) CrowCityDem Jun 2016 OP
And are those who claim Clinton doesn't need the votes of Sanders' supporters still sticking PoliticAverse Jun 2016 #1
^^^ Yeah, how about this? ^^^ TheCowsCameHome Jun 2016 #2
See post #11. brush Jun 2016 #12
I will say this... tex-wyo-dem Jun 2016 #35
Nah! If they dump Trump she would win by a wider margin as Trump's supporters . . . brush Jun 2016 #37
Not so sure about that... tex-wyo-dem Jun 2016 #45
CrowCity, "letting it out" does NOT usually diminish anger Hortensis Jun 2016 #52
I will say that I've been on DU almost on a daily basis... tex-wyo-dem Jun 2016 #71
There plenty of Trump supporting communities for you to join HarmonyRockets Jun 2016 #90
No one has more negatives than Trump. And a 3rd party run would be a disaster for the repugs brush Jun 2016 #76
Kasich is the one for us to worry about, if Republicans dump Trump. Duval Jun 2016 #79
Seemingly many Republicans would vote for Hortensis Jun 2016 #93
No one is saying we won't need Sanders supporters because most people . . . brush Jun 2016 #11
your statistics are a bit misguided. polls are all over the place on Sanders supporters. Exilednight Jun 2016 #14
I meant to post 70% not 79%. I will edit my number of Sanders supporters who will vote blue brush Jun 2016 #17
the Obama coalition is not turning out. the biggest drop in support Exilednight Jun 2016 #57
According to who? You? Not the case at all. Most demvoters are sensible enough to not want Trump in. brush Jun 2016 #75
says exit polling data. they have not turned out this primary season. Exilednight Jun 2016 #77
How do you think Hillary beat Sanders? Of course they turned out brush Jun 2016 #78
if they voted, then why didn't she beat her 2008 totals? did that many Exilednight Jun 2016 #80
Simple. Some of them supported Sanders brush Jun 2016 #82
what research are you basing this on? Exilednight Jun 2016 #94
There was a post here last week on a poll result asking Sanders supporters that very thing. brush Jun 2016 #95
I don't believe any Sanders supporters would really vote for Trump. Duval Jun 2016 #81
That's a good thing. brush Jun 2016 #83
"one poll" Maru Kitteh Jun 2016 #54
it was CBS/WSJ poll and it was NPR that referenced it in a story. The point is Exilednight Jun 2016 #59
I don't find this very credible without a link Maru Kitteh Jun 2016 #69
No one has ever said that. Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #19
Actually, Manu have said that. Their attitude had been, screw you, we don't need you anyway. And it DebDoo Jun 2016 #23
If in fact in the end you decide to support Trump Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #33
That is an irrelevant questions LoverOfLiberty Jun 2016 #62
Its not binary either/or Armstead Jun 2016 #3
+1 tex-wyo-dem Jun 2016 #4
With the electoral college, it is absolutely binary. Either Trump wins, or Hillary wins. CrowCityDem Jun 2016 #9
Bingo. n/t redStateBlueHeart Jun 2016 #88
By saying it's not a binary choice HarmonyRockets Jun 2016 #91
Clinton supporters said they got this. coyote Jun 2016 #5
Bernie logic says you just endorsed Trump. Congrats. CrowCityDem Jun 2016 #7
But you got this. coyote Jun 2016 #18
So you're voting based on your distain for Hillary supporters? eastwestdem Jun 2016 #27
No I vote on the issues coyote Jun 2016 #60
What issues of yours does Donald ensure? eastwestdem Jun 2016 #63
"Looking "presidential" and having a vagina is simply not enough" obamanut2012 Jun 2016 #72
As they should. It wasn't sexist in the slightest Marr Jun 2016 #84
Yep, Hillary's got this, so you can stay home and stew if it helps. MoonRiver Jun 2016 #29
Thanks for validating your disdain for Bernie supporters... tex-wyo-dem Jun 2016 #39
2 more days! leftofcool Jun 2016 #46
Yep...obsequious echo chambers are so much fun! tex-wyo-dem Jun 2016 #49
See post 11 brush Jun 2016 #13
See post 5 tex-wyo-dem Jun 2016 #16
If you had bothered to read post 11 you would've seen that we aren't including . . . brush Jun 2016 #20
At least with Trump... tex-wyo-dem Jun 2016 #30
Hopefully you won't be voting for him since you know what you are getting and all. leftofcool Jun 2016 #47
Me voting for trump? tex-wyo-dem Jun 2016 #51
I think you should vote for who ever you want to. leftofcool Jun 2016 #58
I'm voting for Justin Trudeau then! Chan790 Jun 2016 #66
Most Sanders supporter are intelligent people who know what is at stake. leftofcool Jun 2016 #6
They all moved over to another site. JackSquatFanaticals, I think. BobbyDrake Jun 2016 #8
Lol La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2016 #10
You just validated post #5... tex-wyo-dem Jun 2016 #15
Aww, did I make fun of your precious new hatesite? Poor you!! BobbyDrake Jun 2016 #24
Hate site? Whatever ... tex-wyo-dem Jun 2016 #34
You're the ones who had to found a separate site because YOU couldn't handle opposing opinions. BobbyDrake Jun 2016 #36
So DU Hillary supporters didn't start their own website... tex-wyo-dem Jun 2016 #40
Thanks for the link. leftofcool Jun 2016 #48
But would he approve of what his name Hortensis Jun 2016 #56
How do you know? you weren't here then. nt Snotcicles Jun 2016 #41
... Chan790 Jun 2016 #68
A lot of them were/are actual gold star, paying DU members. I'm sure the admins will disagree. nt Snotcicles Jun 2016 #21
Paying to increase their jury chances, maybe. BobbyDrake Jun 2016 #25
Since you are new here, let me clue you in BobbyDrake. JimDandy Jun 2016 #42
I guess someone at JackSquatFanaticals must have posted about this. BobbyDrake Jun 2016 #44
^^^Payed Puppet^^^ Loudestlib Jun 2016 #64
Good grief, no one gives one care about you, an anonymous poster, JimDandy Jun 2016 #73
Boy, my ignore button is getting a workout today. BobbyDrake Jun 2016 #74
They are some of the nastiest people ever over there. I wonder how many are here pretending to qdouble Jun 2016 #87
Agreed. You cannot say what they're saying and call yourself "progressive" in any way. BobbyDrake Jun 2016 #89
+1.nt Snotcicles Jun 2016 #65
That site is filled with rabid hateful crazy people. No respect at all is over there cursing the qdouble Jun 2016 #86
You seem strangely bitter about something. Warren DeMontague Jun 2016 #99
I don't think they mind losing folks who are all about calling our first female candidate JTFrog Jun 2016 #28
for real lol... DU would be so much better if we had people openly expose their hatred qdouble Jun 2016 #43
That place is a sewer...anybody who expresses most of the shit over there isn't really a democrat qdouble Jun 2016 #22
Post removed Post removed Jun 2016 #67
We should report JackSquatFanaticals to SPLC. stonecutter357 Jun 2016 #31
It's an echo chamber for a select few who insist that DU is too echo-chambery. TwilightZone Jun 2016 #55
::: bravenak Jun 2016 #97
Hillary will beat that fascist ignoramus in a landslide. MoonRiver Jun 2016 #26
She better beat the fascist ignoramous... tex-wyo-dem Jun 2016 #32
Don't worry about it. leftofcool Jun 2016 #50
I'm not worried, but she should TheCowsCameHome Jun 2016 #92
+1 CorkySt.Clair Jun 2016 #98
I only know one "Buster" personally.... Adrahil Jun 2016 #38
Yes, lol. Internet cahones are always much bigger Maru Kitteh Jun 2016 #70
...corrected... HumanityExperiment Jun 2016 #53
A few anecdotes from DUers are not likely to tell you anything significant. n/t Orsino Jun 2016 #61
Why are you asking now? The opposition was never interested in our input before. floriduck Jun 2016 #85
Bernie or Bust! n/t PowerToThePeople Jun 2016 #96
OMG. LWolf Jun 2016 #100

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
1. And are those who claim Clinton doesn't need the votes of Sanders' supporters still sticking
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 09:42 AM
Jun 2016

with their claim?

TheCowsCameHome

(40,173 posts)
2. ^^^ Yeah, how about this? ^^^
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 09:45 AM
Jun 2016

Sanders supporters are irrelevant and not needed, right?

Which is it, dude - Are they, or aren't they?

tex-wyo-dem

(3,190 posts)
35. I will say this...
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 11:06 AM
Jun 2016

If the GOP were running any normal candidate, like a McCain, Rubio, kasich or Rmoney, she would be in big trouble. Instead she is running against a complete clown.

Trump is, well, her trump card.

If (and this is completely within the realm of possibility) the GOP dumps trump at the convention for a more mainstream candidate, she could likely lose.

brush

(55,121 posts)
37. Nah! If they dump Trump she would win by a wider margin as Trump's supporters . . .
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 11:11 AM
Jun 2016

will urge him to run third party and/or sit it out.

A splintered party like that won't beat anyone?

tex-wyo-dem

(3,190 posts)
45. Not so sure about that...
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 11:32 AM
Jun 2016

It works both ways.

Repubs hate hate hate Hillary and would likely still vote against her...kind of like some Bernie supporters voting for Hillary to keep Trump out of the WH, not because they like Clinton.

Keep in mind, Clinton has massive negatives. When she was polled against several candidates in the GOP primary, she lost handily. One that comes to mind was Kasich would beat her in just about every swing state by at least 5 points.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
52. CrowCity, "letting it out" does NOT usually diminish anger
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 11:40 AM
Jun 2016

and hostility, it heats it up further. As you can see, this transition week is not a calm-down period for the ones you're wondering about.

Maybe just leave them alone? Unless poking a beehive is the general idea, of course.

tex-wyo-dem

(3,190 posts)
71. I will say that I've been on DU almost on a daily basis...
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 12:46 PM
Jun 2016

For over a decade. Love this place and the main reason I do is that people here generally valued truth and reality over partisan worship. DU has always been about supporting the Democratic Party, but we were also allowed to call a spade a spade no matter if they had a (D) after their name or not.

With that said, it appears that won't be the case anymore after the 16th, and if your not willing to worship and march in line behind the nominee, you'll be banned. Don't want any part of that nonsense.

brush

(55,121 posts)
76. No one has more negatives than Trump. And a 3rd party run would be a disaster for the repugs
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 02:57 PM
Jun 2016

How do you think Bill Clinton won in the first place? Perot mounted a 3rd party run and took votes from the repugs.

Hillary would win in a walk if Trump gets dumped. The replacement repug nominee would represent a tainted party running against a Trump 3rd party and a Dem party much stronger than either of them.

Please let them dump Trump.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
93. Seemingly many Republicans would vote for
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 04:55 PM
Jun 2016

anyone, but he has a very bad record for anyone who has discovered bottom and rejected it. Most of Kasich's history is unexamined outside his state, too, so lots of juicily new stories would be freshly interesting during the campaign. The whole thing is worrying, of course, but it wouldn't be the worst thing in the world for us if the pubs dredged him up from their hole.

brush

(55,121 posts)
11. No one is saying we won't need Sanders supporters because most people . . .
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 10:08 AM
Jun 2016

know that around 70% if Sanders supporters, when polled, have said they will vote for the Dem nominee.

It's the dead-enders, the Bernie or busters who we've learned from their frequently repeated statements that they will never vote for Clinton — we've learned they can't be counted on. But they are only 25-30% of Sanders supporters.

With the rest of the Obama coalition — sensible progressive whites who don't want Trump appointing the next 3-4 SCOTUS justices, African Americans, Latino Americans, women, gays, Asian Americans, Native Americans, handicapped Americans, sensible left-leaning and moderate independents who also don't want Trump appointing the next 3-4 SCOTUS justices, and the jnon-buster Sanders supporters — we will beat the racist, student scamming, women-hating, proto-fascist Trump just as we beat Romney and McCain.

Exilednight

(9,359 posts)
14. your statistics are a bit misguided. polls are all over the place on Sanders supporters.
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 10:12 AM
Jun 2016

If you want include Jill Stein and Gary whatever his name is libertarian candidate, the number of Bernie supporters drops significantly, one poll had them down to 40% supporting Hillary.

brush

(55,121 posts)
17. I meant to post 70% not 79%. I will edit my number of Sanders supporters who will vote blue
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 10:17 AM
Jun 2016

But you have nothing to say about the rest of the Obama coalition and how we've beaten back Romney and McCain, two repug candidates undeniable more formidable than carnival barker Trump?

Exilednight

(9,359 posts)
57. the Obama coalition is not turning out. the biggest drop in support
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 11:52 AM
Jun 2016

This primary season was first time voters of Obama in 2008 and 2012. Contrary to popular belief, they're not voting since Obama is not on the ticket.

Hillary is going to miss her 2008 number, which means there's less support for her this year than there was in 2008.

brush

(55,121 posts)
75. According to who? You? Not the case at all. Most demvoters are sensible enough to not want Trump in.
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 02:53 PM
Jun 2016

Wishful thinking on your part. And also disappointing that so many dead-ender Bernie or busters, who have boxed themselves into an ideological corner since Sanders lost, are hoping for a Trump win.

Sad.

Exilednight

(9,359 posts)
77. says exit polling data. they have not turned out this primary season.
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 03:03 PM
Jun 2016

Simple math, Obama and Hillary each received roughly 36 million combined votes I'm the 2008 primary. If even half the Obama coalition turned out for her, and she kept her same supporters, she would have roughly 24.5 million votes this primary season, but at her current average she will not even reach the same results she had in 2008.

brush

(55,121 posts)
78. How do you think Hillary beat Sanders? Of course they turned out
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 03:08 PM
Jun 2016

And after the 70% of Sanders voters who are not Bernie or busters are added to the total, we'll beat Trump.

But keep praying that Trump wins. It's a good look on you.

Exilednight

(9,359 posts)
80. if they voted, then why didn't she beat her 2008 totals? did that many
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 03:10 PM
Jun 2016

Former Hillary supporters stop supporting her?

brush

(55,121 posts)
82. Simple. Some of them supported Sanders
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 03:18 PM
Jun 2016

As I said, 70% if Sanders supporters are non-dead-enders and will vote blue against the carnival barker repug.

brush

(55,121 posts)
95. There was a post here last week on a poll result asking Sanders supporters that very thing.
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 06:33 PM
Jun 2016

Some 70% are sensible voters, not dead-enders at all.

Exilednight

(9,359 posts)
59. it was CBS/WSJ poll and it was NPR that referenced it in a story. The point is
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 12:09 PM
Jun 2016

That when Hillary and Trump are the only two polled, Sanders voters lean Hillary. They found that the more candidates that are named are offered to pollsters, that number quickly drops.

Maru Kitteh

(28,420 posts)
69. I don't find this very credible without a link
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 12:29 PM
Jun 2016

I'm very sorry, it's nothing personal at all, just the way all of our brains work and confirmation bias and all that. Most people don't intentionally make inaccurate statements about things like this, they simply misread and store information in a way that fits their existing schema.


Demsrule86

(69,362 posts)
19. No one has ever said that.
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 10:20 AM
Jun 2016

What we have said is we may very well have to do without such support if clueless supporters who don't understand the Trump danger refuse to back the Democratic nominee. It is always your choice. Your candidate lost...so you can save the country and possibly the world by voting for the Democratic nominee or not.

DebDoo

(319 posts)
23. Actually, Manu have said that. Their attitude had been, screw you, we don't need you anyway. And it
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 10:34 AM
Jun 2016

Has been said by many people, in many ways

Demsrule86

(69,362 posts)
33. If in fact in the end you decide to support Trump
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 10:56 AM
Jun 2016

by voting for the green traitor party, Trump himself or not voting...then I would say screw you too. We will have to get along without you. But I would hope, most would not do that.

LoverOfLiberty

(1,438 posts)
62. That is an irrelevant questions
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 12:14 PM
Jun 2016

I mean, really, who bases their vote on what someone said in an Internet forum?

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
3. Its not binary either/or
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 09:48 AM
Jun 2016

Trump sucks.

But that doesn't mean we should not also aim higher to create a better world, while fighting him.

 

HarmonyRockets

(397 posts)
91. By saying it's not a binary choice
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 04:11 PM
Jun 2016

you must be concluding that Jill Stein has a chance to win. I don't see any reason to think that. Trump and Clinton will be the two candidates competing for the presidency, meaning it is a binary choice whether you want it to be or not.

 

CrowCityDem

(2,348 posts)
7. Bernie logic says you just endorsed Trump. Congrats.
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 09:56 AM
Jun 2016

If Warren being neutral is a sin, not endorsing Trump's opponent must be as well.

 

coyote

(1,561 posts)
18. But you got this.
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 10:19 AM
Jun 2016

Clinton supporters told me so. Not to mention the numerous Clinton supporters here who have said that Bernie and his supporters are irrelevant.

It's good to know that you Clinton supporters are allowing us to take a load off on Election Day. We worked hard this year.

 

eastwestdem

(1,220 posts)
27. So you're voting based on your distain for Hillary supporters?
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 10:43 AM
Jun 2016

Interesting statement on what type of person should and should not use social media.

 

coyote

(1,561 posts)
60. No I vote on the issues
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 12:13 PM
Jun 2016

And Hillary certainly does not have my best interest in mind. Looking "presidential" and having a vagina is simply not enough.

 

eastwestdem

(1,220 posts)
63. What issues of yours does Donald ensure?
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 12:15 PM
Jun 2016

An even better question, what issues that are important to you did Sanders actually have a plan to accomplish?

 

Marr

(20,317 posts)
84. As they should. It wasn't sexist in the slightest
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 03:22 PM
Jun 2016

and if Hillary's fans have a lick of sense, they'll stop making this kneejerk accusation at every bend. It makes them look like wilting, overly-sensitive crybabies. No one votes for weakness.

tex-wyo-dem

(3,190 posts)
39. Thanks for validating your disdain for Bernie supporters...
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 11:15 AM
Jun 2016

Your snark is noted.

Just don't come crying when the GOP replaces Trump with a "better" candidate and beats the pants off Hill.

brush

(55,121 posts)
20. If you had bothered to read post 11 you would've seen that we aren't including . . .
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 10:23 AM
Jun 2016

Bernie or Busters in the coalition that will defeat Trump, the same coalition, btw, that defeated Romney and McCain.

Trump is a joke compared to them, so no, we're not counting on the dead-enders to help defeat the carnival barker, student-scammer, racist, proto-fascist Trump.

tex-wyo-dem

(3,190 posts)
51. Me voting for trump?
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 11:38 AM
Jun 2016


But you're saying I should vote for the lesser of two evils again? Is that your point?
 

Chan790

(20,176 posts)
66. I'm voting for Justin Trudeau then!
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 12:23 PM
Jun 2016

If Hillary is the best we can do, we should close up shop and become South Canada. That would be momentous, eh?!

leftofcool

(19,460 posts)
6. Most Sanders supporter are intelligent people who know what is at stake.
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 09:54 AM
Jun 2016

Even those who don't care for Hillary know she is far better for the country than Trump, in fact about 1000 times better. Those who refuse to vote or write in Sanders, or vote for some 3rd party will just have to do what they do.

 

BobbyDrake

(2,542 posts)
8. They all moved over to another site. JackSquatFanaticals, I think.
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 09:56 AM
Jun 2016

They named it after everything they've accomplished.

tex-wyo-dem

(3,190 posts)
34. Hate site? Whatever ...
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 10:58 AM
Jun 2016

It's certainly better than being an obsequious group-thinking echo chamber that Hill supporters are hoping upon hope DU will become.

I've been here for over a decade, and that is not the DU I love.

 

BobbyDrake

(2,542 posts)
36. You're the ones who had to found a separate site because YOU couldn't handle opposing opinions.
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 11:10 AM
Jun 2016

Spare me your endless victimhood already. As far as groupthink goes, look in the mirror to find it.

tex-wyo-dem

(3,190 posts)
40. So DU Hillary supporters didn't start their own website...
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 11:22 AM
Jun 2016

When their feelings got hurt over here at DU? Much of it used to backstab DU members they didn't agree with.

http://hillaryclintonsupporters.com/

Whatever.

BTW...Jackpine Radicals was founded in part in homage to a late great and beloved member of DU with the JPR username.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
56. But would he approve of what his name
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 11:48 AM
Jun 2016

is being used for? I've read a few of the threads over there that are causing it to be described as a hate site. I'll add that there is also a very dismaying trend to hostile conspiracy theories that are way over the edge. What's good for DU, i.e., taking it somewhere else, appears to be very unhealthy for those immersing themselves in much heavier concentrations at that site.

 

BobbyDrake

(2,542 posts)
25. Paying to increase their jury chances, maybe.
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 10:35 AM
Jun 2016

ETA: Or are we supposed to believe it's just a coincidence that they're all jumping ship ahead of the jury system rework? No more tyranny of the majority, so I guess it's not going to be as much fun?

JimDandy

(7,318 posts)
42. Since you are new here, let me clue you in BobbyDrake.
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 11:29 AM
Jun 2016

Many of the members who left DU for JPR were star members of DU for years-some of them since the start of DU. A lot of them provided substantial content to this site which helped build it into what it is. So, no, something as incredibly shallow as the reworked jury system did not motivate them to be star members, but I can see why you would think that:

...I guess it's not going to be as much fun

They are Progressives who have principles and will continue to work toward the laws, policies, rules and regulations they believe need to be inacted. Because of the new rules here, that work cannot be accomplished at DU.
 

BobbyDrake

(2,542 posts)
44. I guess someone at JackSquatFanaticals must have posted about this.
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 11:32 AM
Jun 2016

How many more petulant replies can I expect from the disgruntled horde?

JimDandy

(7,318 posts)
73. Good grief, no one gives one care about you, an anonymous poster,
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 01:29 PM
Jun 2016

at JPR.

You were schooled and making petulant replies in return is to be expected from you.

Ciao...



qdouble

(891 posts)
87. They are some of the nastiest people ever over there. I wonder how many are here pretending to
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 04:01 PM
Jun 2016

be sane while they spit the most vile and insane conspiratorial nonsense over there.

 

BobbyDrake

(2,542 posts)
89. Agreed. You cannot say what they're saying and call yourself "progressive" in any way.
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 04:04 PM
Jun 2016

If you were wondering what the people behind Gamer-Gate have been up to ever since, see JackSquatFanaticals.

qdouble

(891 posts)
86. That site is filled with rabid hateful crazy people. No respect at all is over there cursing the
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 03:59 PM
Jun 2016

entire party and thinking of the most hateful things they can say about the nominee on a daily basis. Good riddance to any trash person who think that is a better site than here.

 

JTFrog

(14,274 posts)
28. I don't think they mind losing folks who are all about calling our first female candidate
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 10:46 AM
Jun 2016

the disgusting vulgar shit they call her over there.

Good riddance to that crowd.



qdouble

(891 posts)
43. for real lol... DU would be so much better if we had people openly expose their hatred
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 11:31 AM
Jun 2016

for women and the majority of democratic party . That place is horrible, but exposes what type of frauds pretend to be rational people on here.

Response to qdouble (Reply #22)

TwilightZone

(25,884 posts)
55. It's an echo chamber for a select few who insist that DU is too echo-chambery.
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 11:46 AM
Jun 2016

Not sure how that works, but that seems to be the synopsis of the place.

MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
26. Hillary will beat that fascist ignoramus in a landslide.
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 10:41 AM
Jun 2016

So, whatever Bernie supporters do, vote for Hillary, vote for Rump, or not vote, it's all good.

tex-wyo-dem

(3,190 posts)
32. She better beat the fascist ignoramous...
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 10:52 AM
Jun 2016

A frickin' trash can could beat trump.

Trump is her saving grace...if she were up against a Rubio or kasich or even Rmoney, she would be in big trouble. Who knows...that may still happen.

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
38. I only know one "Buster" personally....
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 11:14 AM
Jun 2016

And he's very close to throwing in the towel on that. He's already said he will "probably" vote for Clinton.

Maru Kitteh

(28,420 posts)
70. Yes, lol. Internet cahones are always much bigger
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 12:33 PM
Jun 2016

than they are in real life.

And - it's VERY VERY EARLY. November is a long way away. Most SBS supporters will vote for Hillary. Some have already stated they will give money and time as well.

We're going to be fine.

 

HumanityExperiment

(1,442 posts)
53. ...corrected...
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 11:43 AM
Jun 2016

'Now that we've had a bit of time for the hard feelings of the primary to settle down, and we've seen a glimpse into the future, I was wondering what the position of the "or bust" crowd is now'

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1107164845

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1107165178

might want to revise your bit about the HRC support crew here on DU

LWolf

(46,179 posts)
100. OMG.
Wed Jun 15, 2016, 08:15 AM
Jun 2016

You think the hard feelings are "settling down?" While the hatefest against the left wing of the party and nation continues?

I don't know what universe you are living in.

I've never claimed to be a "buster," although I certainly relate to them better than to the fucking neo-liberals running the Democratic Party, and their enablers.

I can't tell you where the "or bust" crowd is; I haven't been chatting with them.

I can tell you that neo-liberals right here on DU are still pushing Sanders hate, Sanders supporters hate, and hate of the left-wing of the party, and it certainly isn't convincing me to see them, nor their candidate, as any "lesser" evil than that other evil.

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