2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forum"I am opposed to a Hillary Clinton presidency because of her policies and her political judgment"
What youre seeing is a huge drift in the party, away from having our leadership be just a bunch of white men who claim to speak for everybody else. Were moving to a party that puts womens interests at the center, that considers the votes of people of color just as valuable as the votes of white people. Unfortunately, some of the support for Sanders comes from people who are uncomfortable with that change and are looking to a benevolent, white patriarch to save them.
I quote this merely because its typical of a huge number of attacks on the Sanders candidacy and his supporters: it asserts that both are motivated not by sincere policy differences but because of moral pathology, and in particular the desire to oppose the interests of women.
Despite what many people have said to me, I am a lukewarm supporter of Bernie Sanders. I am not much of a Democrat. Sanders would be, in my ideal world, the compromise candidate himself. But here Marcotte has framed the question around resistance to Hillary Clinton, and so Ill take her lead. And I would like to point out that there are profound and obvious reasons of policy and politics that I as a socialist would oppose a Clinton presidency so profound and so obvious I find it frustrating that I would have to defend my motives as being based on policy in the first place.
http://fredrikdeboer.com/2016/06/14/i-am-opposed-to-a-hillary-clinton-presidency-because-of-her-policies-and-her-political-judgment/
wyldwolf
(43,891 posts)qdouble
(891 posts)you and the author for your support.
VulgarPoet
(2,872 posts)What was that saying about trying to debate a pigeon?
FSogol
(47,623 posts)BobbyDrake
(2,542 posts)The top 10 highest-paid staffers on Bernie Sanders campaign are ALL men.
He paid women well, but clearly didn't want any in leadership positions. Very telling...
arcane1
(38,613 posts)A great deal of hard work, here and elsewhere, is being done to make sure that it is never about policy.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)La Lioness Priyanka
(53,866 posts)Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)MisterP
(23,730 posts)they lure people into denying they're racist/sexist/etc., because nobody believes such a denial--the only way to win is to point out the game they're playing
a privileged woman surrounded by warmongering and corporatist white males and warmongering and corporatist women whose policies have brought rampaging death and impoverishment to women, Arabs, Hondurans, Haitians, African-Americans is no defeat for "a bunch of white men"
and of course this just pours fuel into the alt-right populist's campaign: the language simply doesn't convince outside the trimmed-down party: it's just the viewpoint of the type who used to rule the roost at the Oberlin undergrad commons or a "women-only space" at Rutgers or NYU who grew up and realized that their carefully-written lit crit was getting no traction with people who had to work for a living, so they just contracted their circle of discourse until everyone they met fit what they'd already decided upon when they read Brownmiller (or whoever else they'd use as a prism interpret all the world through) in sophomore year between vodka shots
it's the same game they pulled in Los Angeles: Santa Monica, Fairfax, Beverly Hills, and Westwood would've gotten no traction keeping Metro out of their neighborhoods by saying they didn't want rail because they thought the riders would be Black and Latino--so what they did was pour millions into spurious anti-transit groups that'd corral Black and Latino protesters who'd disrupt meetings (unpaid, of course: the money goes to the likes of Eric Mann)
rjsquirrel
(4,762 posts)So sorry for your loss.
I'm sure Donald Trump appreciates your support.