2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumMillennials are almost the largest voting bloc.
There are 69 million baby boomers today that are eligible to vote. There are also 69 million millennials eligible to vote. In 4 years, there will be many more millennials eligible. We are the future of the country. It would be nice if you baby boomers out there realized this and didn't give us such a hard time for wanting to make big changes. We've seen how much the world has changed since the late 80's and early 90's. Back then, you could pretty much walk in anywhere and get a job. You had a much easier route to college and then a good career. My mom and dad both got amazing jobs without even having a college education. In fact, I was the first person in my family to graduate college. Unfortunately for me, just a few short years after I graduated, the recession hit and my career vanished as my company laid off every worker in my city and moved out. The recession hit us very hard. Not only were we fresh out of college just starting our careers, we were just buying cars and getting into the groove of working for a living. The biggest setback for me was getting laid off and my car getting repossessed. It ruined my credit for several years and I really didn't know what to do at that point. Imagine being 22 years old, graduating college, finding a career, and then a short time later getting laid off, losing the car you just purchased, and going to nothing. No car, no money, no savings.... It was devastating. That is why I voted the way I did this election. Baby boomers may not like it but we will be the biggest voting bloc soon and big changes will come with our vote.
onehandle
(51,122 posts)tonyt53
(5,737 posts)ThinkCritically
(241 posts)69 million baby boomers 55+ and 69 million millennials 35-.
BobbyDrake
(2,542 posts)SFnomad
(3,473 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)CorkySt.Clair
(1,507 posts)This Gen X-Er isn't conflicted nor did I feel I needed to be catered to when I came of age. I know the sadists at the GOP have nothing to offer and are bad for the country. I've been hip to that for as long as I've been politically aware.
tonyt53
(5,737 posts)Seriously what is up with that? Is it hard to determine our behaviors when it comes to marketing or something? Sigh...
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)The Boomers basically flooded the market, and it bent to cater to them. They then gained control of that market, and continued to focus it towards themselves. Now that they're thinning out, the next big market is the next-biggest generation, millennials.
Gen X got leapfrogged mostly because of the self-absorption of hte generation before them and their own small size relative to the next one up.
Try being a weirdo on the cusp of X and Millennials. Those of us from 79-83 don't have anyone we can fucking relate to.
Tyktak
(11 posts)And I tried to relate to Millennials I but could not. Gen X seemed to be where my ideology fit so I went with that.
Codeine
(25,586 posts)TwilightZone
(28,836 posts)There are groups other than baby boomers and millennials.
ThinkCritically
(241 posts)Baby boomers are the majority right now with 69.8 million voters. There are 69.4 million millennials. Gen Xers are the middle ground. They swing both ways. But they are not the majority. There are more millennials than gen xers.
TwilightZone
(28,836 posts)I don't think it means what you think it means.
ThinkCritically
(241 posts)You have the biggest sway in an election.
TwilightZone
(28,836 posts)There are more than two blocs.
swhisper1
(851 posts)TwilightZone
(28,836 posts)Accuracy is important. 69 million is not 120 million. Millennials will not be the majority, and non-millennials will still outnumber them greatly.
This isn't complicated.
Dawgs
(14,755 posts)
athena
(4,187 posts)I think you mean "plurality", not "majority".
Codeine
(25,586 posts)Fresh_Start
(11,365 posts)in other words, start being responsible...instead of demanding respect for just being
ThinkCritically
(241 posts)And I am sick of people telling me that I don't. I've voted since I turned 18, in every election.
Fresh_Start
(11,365 posts)but you have to admit that the majority of 18-25 year olds, don't vote.
ThinkCritically
(241 posts)Fresh_Start
(11,365 posts)ThinkCritically
(241 posts)NobodyHere
(2,810 posts)jzodda
(2,124 posts)It makes zero difference being the largest group or having the most potential voters. If the group doesn't vote then they don't get much say in what goes on.
As listed in the other response- look at the data.
We go through this argument every four years....Will they come out? We ask and in the end the answer is always mostly nope.
Codeine
(25,586 posts)swhisper1
(851 posts)Fresh_Start
(11,365 posts)so the majority did not vote
DustyJoe
(849 posts)I tried to get my gen-x daughter and millennial grandaughter away from their electronic pablum long enough to vote to no avail. I started during the 10 early voting period all thru election day. Needless to say I was a bit dissapointed.
Auggie
(33,150 posts)La Lioness Priyanka
(53,866 posts)auntpurl
(4,311 posts)NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)... they'll also be older and wiser, less angry and more realistic. With a more mature outlook, they'll be more patient and less demanding. They may even decide that actually joining the party give them more influence in helping to shape and guide it ... and they may find that doing that is much more productive and rewarding than the self-satisfaction they appear to get from their proud and self-serving declaration of being "independent" and "beholden to none" (and then griping incessantly about not being able to participate in party activities of a party that they refuse to commit to.)
Agnosticsherbet
(11,619 posts)The timing of the Great recession and the Millennials coming of age, is not that much different from the Greatest Generation's coming of age and the Great Depression.
ThinkCritically
(241 posts)You lived through that huh?
La Lioness Priyanka
(53,866 posts)My generation was not any more affected than others who lost their homes and live savings
ThinkCritically
(241 posts)They were just starting out. I know, because I lived through it. And my credit got ruined which made it that much more difficult to get anything accomplished. Many of my friends didn't even finish college because they couldn't afford it. If you don't remember, we were losing 800,000 jobs a month in 2007.
La Lioness Priyanka
(53,866 posts)The world does not revolve around you. Other people suffer too, and their suffering is just as painful.
ThinkCritically
(241 posts)Anything to disagree with me. I get it.
La Lioness Priyanka
(53,866 posts)This is nothing personal, I really don't know who you are besides your callous posts about only your losses
ThinkCritically
(241 posts)conclusion that we don't vote based on a graph from 2012. You can stop being so arrogant by the way. I explained why I voted the way I did. If someone else went through some painful BS like me, then by all means, post about it. But, you can give up this act of caring about how painful it was for other people just to make a dig at me. It really was painful for us and I won't forget the hell I went through no matter how much you try to change the subject.
La Lioness Priyanka
(53,866 posts)Sufferer, nor is your gen the only gen who suffered? Lol.
The arrogance is not mine.
Ash_F
(5,861 posts)snooper2
(30,151 posts)ThinkCritically
(241 posts)I went to college and graduated with a BS in business administration. I immediately got hired on at a parking company after I graduated and ran multiple locations within my region. After 6 months, I bought a car and was able to start saving money. 6 months later (2008), the company lost most of its contracts. Every single person, except the regional manager, lost their job. After that I couldn't land a job in my field for over 2 years, mostly because in their eyes, I was still fresh out of college with hardly any experience. Come 2011, I finally got hired again but made much less. Been working my way back up since.
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)So no, it wasn't "devastating" for "all people", only for some.
La Lioness Priyanka
(53,866 posts)The sanders did fine. As did Obama.
w4rma
(31,700 posts)GummyBearz
(2,931 posts)Nice post. I agree with all of what you said. I do hate on millennials at times for their addiction to online vanity (twitter, instagram, snap chat, etc). But your post just gave me hope for your generation. Well said my friend
ThinkCritically
(241 posts)in fact all of my brothers and my sister are in that age group, about 5-10 years older than me. We are on a similar page here and I never discount gen xers. They've paved the way for us millennials to make a difference.
Txbluedog
(1,128 posts)And the primaries have provided ample evidence that they are not a majority of the voters
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)That don't vote.
You forgot that part.
arely staircase
(12,482 posts)Tarc
(10,601 posts)It's like punk; if you're still singing at 40 about the same shit you were angry about at 20, then you're doing it wrong.
ThinkCritically
(241 posts)but Bernie won the 45 and younger vote which means not only millennials.
Tarc
(10,601 posts)Nice try tho.
MillennialDem
(2,367 posts)who is in their 50s (an old gen Xer, maybe even a young boomer)
Hekate
(100,133 posts)Just sayin'
ThinkCritically
(241 posts)when it is the job of the DNC to get people energized to vote. If you want millennials on your side then provide them a reason. Don't just expect people to vote for you because you have a specific name attached to your party. Some people are smarter than that.
Hekate
(100,133 posts)I appreciate very much that so many citizens spoke up loud and clear, but that is simply not enough and never was.
LuvLoogie
(8,815 posts)Codeine
(25,586 posts)Your job as a citizen is to vote. Nobody should have to "energize" you -- that's infantile.
People fucking DIED for voting rights and you're whining that the DNC isn't "energizing" kids to go do what they should be doing as matter of course.
Goddamn.
Sancho
(9,205 posts)
LisaM
(29,634 posts)I think a window into what boomers actually experienced would be key to resolving misunderstandings. I had an English degree and worked retail for 9 years, in childcare for 4. Most of that time was without benefits. I shared apartments/ houses until I was 29. I have never owned property. I still need to work for years just not to be poor in retirement. I am more of the tweener generation but I am tired of being told I had everything handed to me and I have ruined it for millennials.
RandySF
(84,271 posts)LisaM
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Passed over for promotions, paid less, not recruited away from jobs as much, the list goes on. Society expecting that as a woman, I could just not work at all (never an option for me).......I want to be empathetic to what's going on now, but I just get my feathers ruffled when I'm told how easy I had it. And now they pretty much want to push us out of the jobs we do have. I actually read something a couple of days ago claiming that boomers are "hanging on to their jobs with a death grip". Hell yes I'm hanging on to my job! I'm only in my fifties. What am I supposed to do? I could live for another fifty years if all goes well and I don't want to be eating cat food for the last twenty of them.
MattP
(3,304 posts)And have to live with me you think only the young have it so hard my grandfather got wiped out by keating and died penniless it's one thing to start with nothing but how about earning a nest egg only to see it swindled by "advisors"
sadoldgirl
(3,431 posts)For years the party has not done that; and if HRC
gets the nomination, it will be again:"We are not as
bad as the other side" or now "Fear the Trump!"
That is not what younger people look forward to.
Adrahil
(13,340 posts)These folks need to learn that if they don't participate, they won't make a difference.
They want something to vote for? Get the fuck in there and make it happen. Show up. Vote. Run candidates from the bottom up.
JI7
(93,615 posts)JI7
(93,615 posts)Darb
(2,807 posts)Let's start there.
ButterflyBlood
(12,644 posts)This millennial has voted in every election since 2002.
ThinkCritically
(241 posts)I never voted for anyone other than a democrat. Kinda wondering if I made some mistakes just voting down ballot like that.
Darb
(2,807 posts)Your "group" is demanding things, how have they voted?
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)From a pre-boomer who was born when FDR was president.
Codeine
(25,586 posts)That's as far as they've managed. nt
RBInMaine
(13,570 posts)MillennialDem
(2,367 posts)LWolf
(46,179 posts)I'll support your efforts for positive change in anyway I can.
BreakfastClub
(765 posts)are nothing like millenials. sorry. Your generation is aging out now. Get prepared to be ignored in favor of the new generation. The oldest Gen Z are about 19 years old now and they're about to make a big entrance into our society.
RandySF
(84,271 posts)I won't bother getting up at 5:30 a.m. tomorrow.
upaloopa
(11,417 posts)There may be lot's of you but you think going to rallies and creating on line polls give you power.
You have to take part in the system not just stand on the sidelines throwing rocks and trying to piss people off. You can't manufacture reality by bullying people who disagree with you. Stop being key board warriors and get out to vote even if your candidate of choice didn't win the primary.
madokie
(51,076 posts)like many in my age group(68Y0) did
I came home a changed man, War does/did that to many of us. I've been a Hippie every since and will die as one.
For the record, I didn't lose my way
B Calm
(28,762 posts)2banon
(7,321 posts)A lot of us Baby Boomers are 60's anti-war activists..
Those of us born in 1950 (onward) from working class families, and have very different perspective from those of the privileged class..
Hence, we are the Progressive Left, (as opposed to the Left/Liberal Elite) and we are naturally Bernie supporters.
ThinkCritically
(241 posts)He is on the same page as you and me and that gives me hope. I plan on voting for Hillary if she is the nominee in November. In fact, I plan on voting for the democrat candidate, whoever it is. However, I will not stop fighting for Bernies policies. This election has really opened my eyes to all the corruption and the uphill battle for equality. But those fights are what make us stronger, am I right?
2banon
(7,321 posts)we press on as we have since forever, long before Bernie toss his hat in the ring.
It saddens me greatly (naturally) that an FDR candidate (probably the last one I'll ever live to see again) was forsaken for a Neo Liberal.
But.. maybe my granddaughters will see an FDR candidate, eventually.
And maybe... just maybe, that FDR candidate will not have to prove her Warhawk bona fides before she can have the support from the established party elites.
I hope.
LiberalFighter
(53,544 posts)I considered myself special when I voted as a young person. Or thought that my vote was more important than the older voters. I at least made a point of voting from the first time I was eligible to vote.