2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumBernie is missing from the filibuster, but he has had time to tweet
Here are all of his tweets since the filibuster started. Lots of political revolution fantasies, but not a single tweet to support our Democratic senators that are working hard on a life and death issue. Not only is he MIA, but he's not nothing to say.
Bernie Sanders ?@BernieSanders · 1h1 hour ago
The future of our political revolution depends on you. Will you join us for a live online, video address?
Bernie Sanders ?@BernieSanders · 3h3 hours ago
This movement is sending a message to the billionaire class: You cant have it all. This is our country too.
Bernie Sanders ?@BernieSanders · 7h7 hours ago
In my view, every worker in America should be guaranteed at least twelve weeks of paid family and medical leave.
Bernie Sanders ?@BernieSanders · 11h11 hours ago
We need real reform within the Democratic Party. And that means open primaries.
https://twitter.com/BernieSanders
bravenak
(34,648 posts)Just fundraising for a ghost of a campaign...
TheBlackAdder
(28,226 posts).
There were already senate speakers, who were successful in their filibuster.
I guess Sanders should have told one of them to stand down, because he needed the floor more.
http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/orlando-nightclub-massacre/filibuster-ends-after-gop-agrees-allow-gun-control-votes-senator-n593396
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aikoaiko
(34,185 posts)Doing so may help more people than the filibuster in the long run.
30,000 people die per year from guns, but we need to reform the party.
aikoaiko
(34,185 posts)...I don't think we know of a single case where someone who was on the terror watch list actually bought a gun from an FFL and used it in a homicide or even another violent crime.
Mateen, the Pulse club shooter, wasn't on the list when he bought his firearms per Director Comey.
Renew Deal
(81,882 posts)aikoaiko
(34,185 posts)But the moment for Bernie to impact the party is a brief window and I want him to focus on that so that we have a better party in the future.
Renew Deal
(81,882 posts)The election is over. Democrats chose a different path than Bernie's. This debate matters. Figuring out how many super-delegates in 2020 doesn't.
aikoaiko
(34,185 posts)KingFlorez
(12,689 posts)With all due respect, open primaries are not going solve the problem of gun violence.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)In fact it will make it worse. The Big Money billionaires that run our government love the disruption of terrorist attacks. It allows them to clamp down harder on our rights. Those that support Big Corporations don't support Democracy.
And I know you guys are really worried but the primary isn't over until the vote at the convention. Save your gloating until then.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)aikoaiko
(34,185 posts)Which is to say not much will happen in terms of reducing gun violence.
Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)arcane1
(38,613 posts)Renew Deal
(81,882 posts)arcane1
(38,613 posts)Renew Deal
(81,882 posts)dgauss
(883 posts)To portray Sanders as someone who is not very concerned about mass killings? He is too self absorbed in some self serving political fantasy?
What a very cheap and false thing.
midnight
(26,624 posts)msanthrope
(37,549 posts)Rose Siding
(32,623 posts)He almost announced there but had to be rushed outside when his camp realized it.
tallahasseedem
(6,716 posts)Doncha know?
Eric J in MN
(35,619 posts)...marched in a vigil in VT for the Orlando victims on Monday, and met with HRC in DC on Tuesday.
He's in VT and tweeted in support of the filibuster yesterday from his Senate account.
KingFlorez
(12,689 posts)But instead he's going "me, me, me".
swhisper1
(851 posts)Demsrule86
(68,710 posts)they are a distraction like abortion...go Bernie...please go anywhere ....but here.
swhisper1
(851 posts)marble falls
(57,350 posts)over in conflict of the public's interest and the majority's wishes. The best way to get change is to change congress. We need to roll out the vote and quit counting on our currently out manned Democrats and progressives (at least on this issue). The Congressional and Senate elections are the ones we really need to be working on. Roll the bastards out and put the people's Congress in.
Renew Deal
(81,882 posts)Autumn
(45,120 posts)workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)for his fellow Americans and also a great time to help out other democrats and hes...MIA!
FAIL!
redstateblues
(10,565 posts)Txbluedog
(1,128 posts)rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)Monopolies uber alles.
scscholar
(2,902 posts)is happening now, and he is AWOL!
AntiBank
(1,339 posts)R0ckyRac00n
(84 posts)Petrushka
(3,709 posts)Thanks for the link.
cloudythescribbler
(2,586 posts)When after a very bitter primary season (recently I read a post suggesting that 2007-08 was worse on DU than this cycle, which as I remember is is not implausible) we Obama backers NEVER did anything like this to trash Hillary Clinton after he became the presumptive nominee. Sure there was the PUMA stuff, but it never gained traction, in part as the PUMAs were never given much to latch on to. It was simply political common sense -- and BELIEVE ME, there was plenty to be resentful about concerning the HRC 07-08 campaign for anyone who wanted to keep pouring salt into those wounds. But Obama and his backers were out to win. This time I'm not so sure when it comes to Hillary surrogates & supporters.
Both on DU and in other contexts, I see the need to put down Bernie (often as here there is the unavoidable suspicion that the target is really the (relatively) progressive wing of the Democratic Party and its agenda) and upbraid Bernie for what? For not dropping out? For TWEETING for God's sake? What Bernie is doing is crucial for the longer term goals of his campaign, which may seem like a perverse or presumably self-serving concern -- but HRC backers should be interested -- if seeking to really win in the general -- not in all this "so there" stuff at Bernie as in carefully setting the strategy for winning over the highest percentage of Bernie backers possible. This kind of crap, writ large, is worse than merely counterproductive -- it is toxic
I have supported Bernie since day 1 and continue to back him until he decides to end his campaign, which may very well not be till the Convention, for strategic reasons. I support that decision, if that is what he decides. He has also said he will support the Democratic ticket, though not definitively enough to satisfy some. I plan to vote for the Democratic presidential ticket in November whether or not Bernie is at the top of the ticket, and to urge at least those Bernie backers in swing states to do the same. But the approach of folks urging Bernie to drop out, or shut up, or 'tone it down' or whatever, when since March 16 they should have been thinkng strategically -- how NOT to alienate any more Bernie backers than necessary, but no. And it seems after trashing Bernie and his base, the stage is set for blaming the Left for any victory of Trump and the GOP in November, just like in 2000, though even less plausibly this time around
All the anti-Sanderista sentiment continuing to pour out can ONLY tend to alienate Bernie's base and help Trump -- and THAT IS OBVIOUS
840high
(17,196 posts)dgauss
(883 posts)rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)stands up to the Big Money they've grown comfortable with so they lash out.
ChisolmTrailDem
(9,463 posts)...during future election cycles. They'll worry then.
Arazi
(6,829 posts)marble falls
(57,350 posts)President Obama has done on more than just getting stupid weapons out of the hands of the murderous.
peace13
(11,076 posts)For eight long years it has festered. There is nothing that Bernie could do to please them. There are zero words that we can say to help them see who their candidate is. One can see it on the surface of so many posts. Anger can not be reasoned with.
CorkySt.Clair
(1,507 posts)Chan790
(20,176 posts)LexVegas
(6,111 posts)azurnoir
(45,850 posts)or Senator Klobuchar MN?
Number23
(24,544 posts)absolutely astonishing amount of floor stomping and temper trantruming you caused.
Mr. "Let's Change the Democratic Party by letting people who aren't Dems vote in its Primaries" can't even be bothered to show up for an incredibly crucial vote that Americans are screaming for, far more than those screaming to break up the banks. How very, very telling.
Eric J in MN
(35,619 posts)...and she were home yesterday, you'd say the same thing?
auntpurl
(4,311 posts)Sensible gun reform is a top priority in her campaign. There is no doubt in my mind Hillary would have shown up for this historic and much-needed event.
Eric J in MN
(35,619 posts)...and extremely uncharacteristic hypothetical in which she were still a Senator and after a long presidential primary campaign she were at home in NY during this filibuster, would you criticize her for that?
auntpurl
(4,311 posts)ABSOLUTELY, yes. Yes. In that event, she would be doing her JOB.
Number23
(24,544 posts)There are alot of wise expressions about people constantly running around spouting "ifs" at people. My favorite is "if grandma had balls, she'd be grandpa." One of my favorite friends in college learned that from her grandmother and I can't even remember that girls' name but I still remember that phrase, that's how much of an impact it had on me.
If your entire argument is a bunch of "ifs" just save yourself the trouble. None of this is about Hillary. This is about Sanders and his sweeping proclamations of changing the world -- starting with the Dem primaries of course -- but who somehow can't be bothered to show up for important votes in his current (and future) job as a Senator.
obamanut2012
(26,158 posts)He refuses to suspend his campaign like Hillary did with Obama. Why is anyone surprised he isn't part of this bipartisan filibuster about gun violence and gun control?
Eric J in MN
(35,619 posts)This is what he tweeted on his Senate Twitter account:
I stand with @ChrisMurphyCT to demand common sense gun safety. We can't allow guns to fall into the hands of people who shouldn't have them.
What sense does it make for people to be able to purchase military-style weapons designed to kill people? #Enough
If there is any silver lining to the terrible tragedy in Orlando, it is for us to bring people together to prevent violence of all kinds.
The weapon used in Orlando was legally purchased after a background check. Assault weapons like it should be outright banned.
https://twitter.com/sensanders/status/743245745994752000
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)B Calm
(28,762 posts)workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)BobbyDrake
(2,542 posts)care or concern for anyone outside of his core constituency. He needs to go away now.
GeorgeGist
(25,324 posts)Do you think it helps Hillary?
brooklynite
(94,786 posts)I hope this wasn't personal pique.